Crowdfunded Alt-Right Pirates Of The Libyan Coast

[Risottia]

TPotU is talking about the pirates, as you know very well.

Kinda pathetic when you can't find enough pro-pirate posters to circlejerk with and have to pretend like that.

The only people pretending here are the ones who think anyone has a right to live in Europe besides Europeans, or those who come through the proper channels.

Sorry that this didn't turn out to be the bleeding heart echo chamber you wanted it to be, pal.

You know, coming illegally AND applying successfully for refugee status is a proper channel.

[Vassenor]

Crowdfunded right-winger pirates? And here I was, thinking I've already seen everything...

That being said, best of luck to them. I couldn't care less what methods they use to keep at least a tiny bit of invader tide out of Europe, as long as they do keep them out.

So you're fine with murder then. Got it.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Crowdfunded right-winger pirates? And here I was, thinking I've already seen everything...

That being said, best of luck to them. I couldn't care less what methods they use to keep at least a tiny bit of invader tide out of Europe, as long as they do keep them out.

So you're fine with murder then. Got it.

You do know who you're responding to, yes?

[Darussalam]

I think I'm more astounded by the implication that they generate some kind of monetary income.

At any case, those who rally against illegal immigrants have no reason to endorse such criminal, violent acts.

[Oudland]

Crowdfunded right-winger pirates? And here I was, thinking I've already seen everything...

That being said, best of luck to them. I couldn't care less what methods they use to keep at least a tiny bit of invader tide out of Europe, as long as they do keep them out.

Refugees aren't invaders, mate.

Get enough unwanted refugees together, and it's an invasion.

The only people pretending here are the ones who think anyone has a right to live in Europe besides Europeans, or those who come through the proper channels.

Sorry that this didn't turn out to be the bleeding heart echo chamber you wanted it to be, pal.

You know, coming illegally AND applying successfully for refugee status is a proper channel.

Literally anyone can hop on a boat with Mohomed and apply for refugee status.

Not a proper channel.

It's dangerous as fuck, and reckless. Shoot em, drown em, makes no difference to me. Just keep them out of America, and keep them out of Europe. I'm done here.

[Randsbeik]

Crowdfunded right-winger pirates? And here I was, thinking I've already seen everything...

That being said, best of luck to them. I couldn't care less what methods they use to keep at least a tiny bit of invader tide out of Europe, as long as they do keep them out.

Refugees aren't invaders, mate.

They're economic migrants from places like Eritrea and Nigeria, and it isn't the job of Italian citizens to finance immigrants - even if they were refugees.

[Risottia]

Refugees aren't invaders, mate.

Get enough unwanted refugees together, and it's an invasion.

You know, coming illegally AND applying successfully for refugee status is a proper channel.

Literally anyone can hop on a boat with Mohomed and apply for refugee status.

Not a proper channel.

It's dangerous as fuck, and reckless. Shoot em, drown em, makes no difference to me. Just keep them out of America, and keep them out of Europe. I'm done here.

Read and comprehend. I wrote "successfully applying". Not just "applying".

Anyway, as non-European, you're right, we Europeans should start rejecting foreign influences on our policies. Starting with murderous American Trumpites.

[Oudland]

Get enough unwanted refugees together, and it's an invasion.



Literally anyone can hop on a boat with Mohomed and apply for refugee status.

Not a proper channel.

It's dangerous as fuck, and reckless. Shoot em, drown em, makes no difference to me. Just keep them out of America, and keep them out of Europe. I'm done here.

Read and comprehend. I wrote "successfully applying". Not just "applying".

Anyway, as non-European, you're right, we Europeans should start rejecting foreign influences on our policies. Starting with murderous American Trumpites.

That doesn't change the fact that you literally said illegal immigration is a proper channel. No wonder your entire union is overrun with immigrants and terrorists.

[Alvecia]

Read and comprehend. I wrote "successfully applying". Not just "applying".

Anyway, as non-European, you're right, we Europeans should start rejecting foreign influences on our policies. Starting with murderous American Trumpites.

That doesn't change the fact that you literally said illegal immigration is a proper channel. No wonder your entire union is overrun with immigrants and terrorists.

Hardly overrun.

[Oudland]

That doesn't change the fact that you literally said illegal immigration is a proper channel. No wonder your entire union is overrun with immigrants and terrorists.

Hardly overrun.

In denial, are we?

[Alvecia]

Hardly overrun.

In denial, are we?

Not at all.

[Oudland]

In denial, are we?

Not at all.

Best of luck to you, then.

[Alvecia]

Not at all.

Best of luck to you, then.

Thank you.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

Crowdfunded right-winger pirates? And here I was, thinking I've already seen everything...

That being said, best of luck to them. I couldn't care less what methods they use to keep at least a tiny bit of invader tide out of Europe, as long as they do keep them out.

So you're fine with murder then. Got it.

Were it not for these "refugees", you wouldn't hear of some wannabe-martyr blowing up, shooting, stabbing or running over someone every other day like it is now, and even the non-radical ones have racked up a rather unsavoury reputation wherever they've settled down. They have absolutely nothing of value to offer our great civilization, their presence here only being detrimental to European society.

So yes, I'm absolutely fine with any and all methods that serve to keep their sort away from the shores of the civilized world.

[Risottia]

Read and comprehend. I wrote "successfully applying". Not just "applying".

Anyway, as non-European, you're right, we Europeans should start rejecting foreign influences on our policies. Starting with murderous American Trumpites.

That doesn't change the fact that you literally said illegal immigration is a proper channel. No wonder your entire union is overrun with immigrants and terrorists.

You're lying through your teeth. Crossing the border illegally and applying successfully for refugee status, that's what I said. Quit making up FAKE NEWS.

[Alvecia]

So you're fine with murder then. Got it.

Were it not for these "refugees", you wouldn't hear of some wannabe-martyr blowing up, shooting, stabbing or running over someone every other day like it is now, and even the non-radical ones have racked up a rather unsavoury reputation wherever they've settled down. They have absolutely nothing of value to offer our great civilization, their presence here only being detrimental to European society.

So yes, I'm absolutely fine with any and all methods that serve to keep their sort away from the shores of the civilized world.

Sounds like an illogical generalisation to me.

Edit: Also sounds like you're caving to the terrorists wishes

[Torrocca]

Refugees aren't invaders, mate.

Get enough unwanted refugees together, and it's an invasion.

Yeah, no it's not.

As per Webster's dictionary: Definition of invasion
1: an act of invading; especially: incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2: the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful

By the first one, you're definitely wrong, by the second one you're also wrong because refugees aren't hurtful, they're innocent people seeking shelter from danger.

Refugees aren't invaders, mate.

They're economic migrants from places like Eritrea and Nigeria, and it isn't the job of Italian citizens to finance immigrants - even if they were refugees.

About half the people on these boats are refugees.

[Gravlen]

So you're fine with murder then. Got it.

Were it not for these "refugees", you wouldn't hear of some wannabe-martyr blowing up, shooting, stabbing or running over someone every other day like it is now, and even the non-radical ones have racked up a rather unsavoury reputation wherever they've settled down. They have absolutely nothing of value to offer our great civilization, their presence here only being detrimental to European society.

So yes, I'm absolutely fine with any and all methods that serve to keep their sort away from the shores of the civilized world.

You haven't been paying attention. It's not "refugees" who've committed the attacks, it's mostly europeans.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

Were it not for these "refugees", you wouldn't hear of some wannabe-martyr blowing up, shooting, stabbing or running over someone every other day like it is now, and even the non-radical ones have racked up a rather unsavoury reputation wherever they've settled down. They have absolutely nothing of value to offer our great civilization, their presence here only being detrimental to European society.

So yes, I'm absolutely fine with any and all methods that serve to keep their sort away from the shores of the civilized world.

Sounds like an illogical generalisation to me.

Edit: Also sounds like you're caving to the terrorists wishes

See, the problem with treating these migrants kindly is that it only encourages more migrants to try and get here. No matter how many of them we take in, there will always be more, many radicals and criminal scum among them. In the end, Europe will only end up squandering it's hard-earned wealth while replacing a significant segment of their own population with a completely-foreign element, sowing seeds of future ethnic and religious conflict in their own land, ultimately helping nobody and harming only themselves.

An illicit movement like these pirates could in fact serve the purpose of dissuading more migrants from coming over, allowing state authorities to keep their hands clean and public standings intact. Any violent actions against migrant boats could simply be dismissed as incidents perpetrated by "criminals" or "misguided patriots", while still serving the purpose of protecting Europe from further invasion.

[Torrocca]

Sounds like an illogical generalisation to me.

Edit: Also sounds like you're caving to the terrorists wishes

See, the problem with treating these migrants kindly is that it only encourages more migrants to try and get here. No matter how many of them we take in, there will always be more, many radicals and criminal scum among them. In the end, Europe will only end up squandering it's hard-earned wealth while replacing a significant segment of their own population with a completely-foreign element, sowing seeds of future ethnic and religious conflict in their own land, ultimately helping nobody and harming only themselves.

An illicit movement like these pirates could in fact serve the purpose of dissuading more migrants from coming over, allowing state authorities to keep their hands clean and public standings intact. Any violent actions against migrant boats could simply be dismissed as incidents perpetrated by "criminals" or "misguided patriots", while still serving the purpose of protecting Europe from further invasion.

It's not a fucking invasion mate, and the migrants and refugees aren't radicals and scum.

[Alvecia]

Sounds like an illogical generalisation to me.

Edit: Also sounds like you're caving to the terrorists wishes

See, the problem with treating these migrants kindly is that it only encourages more migrants to try and get here. No matter how many of them we take in, there will always be more, many radicals and criminal scum among them. In the end, Europe will only end up squandering it's hard-earned wealth while replacing a significant segment of their own population with a completely-foreign element, sowing seeds of future ethnic and religious conflict in their own land, ultimately helping nobody and harming only themselves.

Good thing about a greater population is there's more people to tax and more money to make. Immigration is good for the economy in the long run, done right.
Radicalisation is just something we have to deal with, ostracisation encourages it.

An illicit movement like these pirates could in fact serve the purpose of dissuading more migrants from coming over, allowing state authorities to keep their hands clean and public standings intact. Any violent actions against migrant boats could simply be dismissed as incidents perpetrated by "criminals" or "misguided patriots", while still serving the purpose of protecting Europe from further invasion.

An illicit movement like these pirates is illicit. And in the end will likely do more harm than good, driving more people to become radicalised, and encouraging the growth of ISIS.

[New Grestin]

It's not a fucking invasion mate, and the migrants and refugees aren't radicals and scum.

They're obviously scum because it's a bunch of poor brown people fleeing the shithole of their post-colonialist region for the potential promise of a life where they won't be killed by militants or their own government.

And we can't have that, can we?

How is Europe, a region which has never at any point been multiethnic or handled ethnic tensions, ever going to cope with such an issue? There have never been any kind of ethnic or racial tensions in all of Europe, and certainly not ones that occur in mountainous, some might say Balkanized, regions where various ethnic and religious groups have come to blows. And at no point has Europe ever attempted to handle those issues.

No, sir. Not one bit.

[Torrocca]

It's not a fucking invasion mate, and the migrants and refugees aren't radicals and scum.

They're obviously scum because it's a bunch of poor brown people fleeing the shithole of their post-colonialist region for the potential promise of a life where they won't be killed by militants or their own government.

And we can't have that, can we?

How is Europe, a region which has never at any point been multiethnic or handled ethnic tensions, ever going to cope with such an issue? There have never been any kind of ethnic or racial tensions in all of Europe, and certainly not ones that occur in mountainous, some might say Balkanized, regions where various ethnic and religious groups have come to blows. And at no point has Europe ever attempted to handle those issues.

No, sir. Not one bit.

Yup, in no point in any of European history has there been ethnic, racial, or religious tensions. Silly me. I completely forgot.

[New Grestin]

Yup, in no point in any of European history has there been ethnic, racial, or religious tensions. Silly me. I completely forgot.

And we all know that the people that claim that we should be gunning down refugees or turning them away have vast experience in handling life as a refugee.

I mean, how could they claim to have such knowledge and authority if they, themselves, were not refugees?

And if I was wrong, that might mean that, god forbid, some of the people commentating these ideals on the Refugee Crisis don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

See, the problem with treating these migrants kindly is that it only encourages more migrants to try and get here. No matter how many of them we take in, there will always be more, many radicals and criminal scum among them. In the end, Europe will only end up squandering it's hard-earned wealth while replacing a significant segment of their own population with a completely-foreign element, sowing seeds of future ethnic and religious conflict in their own land, ultimately helping nobody and harming only themselves.

Good thing about a greater population is there's more people to tax and more money to make. Immigration is good for the economy in the long run, done right.
Radicalisation is just something we have to deal with, ostracisation encourages it.

An illicit movement like these pirates could in fact serve the purpose of dissuading more migrants from coming over, allowing state authorities to keep their hands clean and public standings intact. Any violent actions against migrant boats could simply be dismissed as incidents perpetrated by "criminals" or "misguided patriots", while still serving the purpose of protecting Europe from further invasion.

An illicit movement like these pirates is illicit. And in the end will likely do more harm than good, driving more people to become radicalised, and encouraging the growth of ISIS.

That's assuming the immigration is handled right, which it isn't. Also, the immigration improving economy might have worked out in America, but it will never work out in Europe.

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The reasons why United States became an example of successful integration are multifold. First and foremost, US back in it's glory days was never a nanny welfare state like most Western European ones these days. It gave immigrants no free handouts whatsoever - the only thing they got was the freedom to succeed, the rest being up to them. The new arrivals had no option of spending whole two generations slacking off and leeching on welfare like they do in modern Europe, and they certainly didn't get to make any demands whatsoever, those who failed to realize that being reminded of their proper station very quickly.

Second reason, USA has been a multi-ethnic state from it's conception. European nations, however, have always been strictly monoethnic nation-states. The division between native and foreigner that might have been irrelevant in the US, where pretty much everyone was an immigrant at some point, is simply not valid in Europe. Whenever a sizable foreign minority has settled in another European nation, sooner or later an inter-ethnic conflict has erupted there, in the best cases leading to partitions of the country in question (and more future conflicts), and to genocide in the worst. To think that Europeans, who haven't been able to get along with each other as they are, will ever be able to get along with a large population of outsiders with a completely alien mentality and culture isn't just naive. It's delusional, and dangerously so. And more importantly, the danger of this delusion is already showing everywhere where masses of foreign economic migrants settle down.