Crowdfunded Alt-Right Pirates Of The Libyan Coast

[Saiwania]

There is nothing good about the people coming into Europe, what don't people understand about this?!

These are people who can't write, who can't read, who can't behave, who are only looking for a handout. This is 100 times worse than the Mariel boat lift where Fidel Castro purposefully emptied all of Cuba's prisons and offloading the majority of their criminals to the US. Europe must not be stupid enough to let these people in or otherwise help them in any way.

[Aelex]

And then we can expel them again and again 'till they don't come anymore. Attrition is on our side. ;^)

That looks like an oncologist telling a patient that instead of removing the cancer definitely, it's better for him just to make several surgeries to limit the size of the cancer.

Meh, unlike a doctor, we have no oath binding us to try to save the patient or merely look for his best interests so if we get to increase our fees that way...

[TURTLESHROOM II]

That's gonna cost a lot of money in the long run though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/28/deportation-costs-immigration/307548001/
That's the US of course but still, that quite a lot of money for a treatment rather then a cure

If you have a secure border, deportation is a one-time expense, compared to the years of waste spent on handouts to the deprivation of citizens and lawful immigrants that need them.

[Internationalist Bastard]

And then we can expel them again and again 'till they don't come anymore. Attrition is on our side. ;^)

That looks like an oncologist telling a patient that instead of removing the cancer definitely, it's better for him just to make several surgeries to limit the size of the cancer.

Pretty much. We can argue till the cows come home on immigration, at the end of the day though, foreign aid supporting development and stabilization efforts seems cheaper

[Aelex]

That's gonna cost a lot of money in the long run though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/28/deportation-costs-immigration/307548001/
That's the US of course but still, that quite a lot of money for a treatment rather then a cure

And yet it's still a more viable solution than pumping money into shitholes hoping they will get better or just throwing in the towel.

[Internationalist Bastard]

That looks like an oncologist telling a patient that instead of removing the cancer definitely, it's better for him just to make several surgeries to limit the size of the cancer.

Meh, unlike a doctor, we have no oath binding us to try to save the patient or merely look for his best interests so if we get to increase our fees that way...

The patient is your country in this case

[Thermodolia]

I don't get the problem here. These "pirates" are cutting engines from migrant invasion boats and routing them back to Libya where they belong. The invasion of Muslim migrants (many of them hostile and most, but not all, of them men of prime breeding age too cowardly to fight for their nation) should entirely cease. Europe has enough Muslims already, the last we need is more of them.
Haven't multiple terror attacks performed by these groups that sneak in convinced you enough that this group is NEEDED?

First, that isn't piracy; piracy is the unlawful boarding of a ship without the ship master's consent (regardless of intent, Greenpeace was charged with piracy for trying to board a Russian oil tanker to protest). Second, they're not going to be killing these people where they stand.

Simply sending them back to the coast is neither a crime nor a bad act. These people are patriots and governments should subsidize them for as long as they are refusing to do their job.

First off they aren't invading anything. Second a lot of those being sent back will more than likely die because the people who have taken over their nation hate them.

And most of the terror attacks have been committed not by refugees but by citizens who where born in the nation they committed the act of terrorism in.

[Great Minarchistan]

That looks like an oncologist telling a patient that instead of removing the cancer definitely, it's better for him just to make several surgeries to limit the size of the cancer.

Meh, unlike a doctor, we have no oath binding us to try to save the patient or merely look for his best interests so if we get to increase our fees that way...

Why not simply reduce the welfare state dude

[Kubra]

I don't get the problem here. These "pirates" are cutting engines from migrant invasion boats and routing them back to Libya where they belong. The invasion of Muslim migrants (many of them hostile and most, but not all, of them men of prime breeding age too cowardly to fight for their nation) should entirely cease. Europe has enough Muslims already, the last we need is more of them.
Haven't the multiple terror attacks performed by these groups that sneak in convinced you enough that this group is NEEDED?

First, this isn't piracy; piracy is the unlawful boarding of a ship without the ship master's consent (regardless of intent, Greenpeace was charged with piracy for trying to board a Russian oil tanker to protest). Second, they're not going to be killing these people where they stand. Third, European countries are supposed to be doing this by their own laws.

Simply sending them back to the coast they tried to launch from is neither a crime nor a bad act. These people are patriots and governments should subsidize them for as long as they are refusing to do their job.

>too cowardly to fight in their home country
>hostile to us

Basically saying "if only these bastards would go home and join ISIS"

[Seradahn]

The migrants have no right crossing the Mediterranean as it is. They don't need rescuing, they need to be sent back.

[Nova Stephania]

However you feel about people trying to get into Europe this way, if you interfere with rescue missions on the sea you are little more than a criminal thug and should be thrown in front of a judge. Disgusting.

[Aelex]

Pretty much. We can argue till the cows come home on immigration, at the end of the day though, foreign aid supporting development and stabilization efforts seems cheaper

"Let's give dictators and corrupt ""presidents"" money for development, I'm sure they tots won't just pocket it!"

[Vassenor]

many of them hostile

[citation needed]

[Kubra]

Pretty much. We can argue till the cows come home on immigration, at the end of the day though, foreign aid supporting development and stabilization efforts seems cheaper

"Let's give dictators and corrupt ""presidents"" money for development, I'm sure they tots won't just pocket it!"

Maybe they will
but that's one of the overhead costs of international aid funding, and has been since the founding of the UN.

[Internationalist Bastard]

That's gonna cost a lot of money in the long run though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/28/deportation-costs-immigration/307548001/
That's the US of course but still, that quite a lot of money for a treatment rather then a cure

And yet it's still a more viable solution than pumping money into shitholes hoping they will get better or just throwing in the towel.

Is it? I'm looking for a proper source right now, but I seem to remember the US stopping the Honduran mass migration with foreign aid

[Bakery Hill]

I don't get the problem here. These "pirates" are cutting engines from migrant invasion boats and routing them back to Libya where they belong. The invasion of Muslim migrants (many of them hostile and most, but not all, of them men of prime breeding age too cowardly to fight for their nation) should entirely cease. Europe has enough Muslims already, the last we need is more of them.
Haven't the multiple terror attacks performed by these groups that sneak in convinced you enough that this group is NEEDED?

First, this isn't piracy; piracy is the unlawful boarding of a ship without the ship master's consent (regardless of intent, Greenpeace was charged with piracy for trying to board a Russian oil tanker to protest). Second, they're not going to be killing these people where they stand. Third, European countries are supposed to be doing this by their own laws.

Simply sending them back to the coast they tried to launch from is neither a crime nor a bad act. These people are patriots and governments should subsidize them for as long as they are refusing to do their job.

>too cowardly to fight in their home country
>hostile to us

Basically saying "if only these bastards would go home and join ISIS"

Schroedinger's Migrant

[Danceria]

That looks like an oncologist telling a patient that instead of removing the cancer definitely, it's better for him just to make several surgeries to limit the size of the cancer.

Pretty much. We can argue till the cows come home on immigration, at the end of the day though, foreign aid supporting development and stabilization efforts seems cheaper

Cheaper, yes, but not always the best long term.

[Thermodolia]

That's gonna cost a lot of money in the long run though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/28/deportation-costs-immigration/307548001/
That's the US of course but still, that quite a lot of money for a treatment rather then a cure

If you have a secure border, deportation is a one-time expense, compared to the years of waste spent on handouts to the deprivation of citizens and lawful immigrants that need them.

Deportation is not a one time expense. The only time it could possible be is if you got rid of the entire US constitution and suspended all rights. Basically the only way you will ever make deportation a one time expense is to turn the US into a super police state with a dictatorship to boot

[Bakery Hill]

"Let's give dictators and corrupt ""presidents"" money for development, I'm sure they tots won't just pocket it!"

Maybe they will
but that's one of the overhead costs of international aid funding, and has been since the founding of the UN.

Foreign policy has always been about foreign policy anyway. And for many countries it goes almost entirely to their military budget.

[Aelex]

Why not simply reduce the welfare state dude

I agree with the necessity to cut down on some things like healthcare (tho not all the maternity related shit, we need it to keep our birthrate up) but education and subside are merely investment to keep the country running, reducing them would be folly.
Over all, I'd rather not weaken the State unnecessarily and destroying the welfare state would do that.

[Gauthier]

It's rather likely the pirates might upload footage of a boat sinking and refugees drowning. It's all but guaranteed if such footage was posted there would be people cheering like refugees drowning happened to be a summer blockbuster.

[Geilinor]

I didn't know the alt-right was actually getting people killed. There's no choice but to crack down on this funding.

[Kubra]

And yet it's still a more viable solution than pumping money into shitholes hoping they will get better or just throwing in the towel.

Is it? I'm looking for a proper source right now, but I seem to remember the US stopping the Honduran mass migration with foreign aid

And hey, since we're on the topic of giving people a good standard of living to solve problems relating to migration, here's the only good thing takimag ever published
http://takimag.com/article/war_of_the_b ... z4j9RglzqT

[Bakery Hill]

Why not simply reduce the welfare state dude

I agree with the necessity to cut down on some things like healthcare (tho not all the maternity related shit, we need it to keep our birthrate up) but education and subside are merely investment to keep the country running, reducing them would be folly.
Over all, I'd rather not weaken the State unnecessarily and destroying the welfare state would do that.

Don't even cut healthcare, it makes shit more expensive in the long run.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Pretty much. We can argue till the cows come home on immigration, at the end of the day though, foreign aid supporting development and stabilization efforts seems cheaper

Cheaper, yes, but not always the best long term.

Why not? We're trying to improve their lives, they aren't illegally immigrating. Looks best to me