Crowdfunded Alt-Right Pirates Of The Libyan Coast

[Gravlen]

So you're fine having their blood on your hands if they die out there as a result of this "interference"?

No one made them attempt the voyage. They're voluntarily assuming the risks and it would be wrong to bail them out so as to shield them from any and all consequences for bad decisions. If these people are allowed into Europe, they will suck all of the European welfare systems dry. There will be a surplus of people whose skills are near worthless in terms of the labor market- people who aren't worth whatever the minimum wage is in terms of output and will only have a parasitic relationship to European states which are burdened with their presence.

What you have here is a good argument against treating people with cancer, or saving people who've been in a car accident or is trapped in a burning building.

[Great Minarchistan]

In the long run, however, it's more effective to kill the root of the problems.

inb4 "in the long run we're all dead" comment

If we're talking about our own countries, sure. No need to bother doing that for foreign ones, tho. The Middle East and North Africa can stay a shithole for all I care, honestly.

Nah, the cure of the root is just end the welfare state from the Western European countries. If there's still large immigration, at least they won't leech tax money.

[Internationalist Bastard]

In the long run, however, it's more effective to kill the root of the problems.

inb4 "in the long run we're all dead" comment

If we're talking about our own countries, sure. No need to bother doing that for foreign ones, tho. The Middle East and North Africa can stay a shithole for all I care, honestly.

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

[Proctopeo]

If we're talking about our own countries, sure. No need to bother doing that for foreign ones, tho. The Middle East and North Africa can stay a shithole for all I care, honestly.

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

dig a trench and fill the Mediterranean with land mines

problem solved

[Tekeristan]

If we're talking about our own countries, sure. No need to bother doing that for foreign ones, tho. The Middle East and North Africa can stay a shithole for all I care, honestly.

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

Wait, you're saying helping 3rd world nations develop means more people would want to stay there, especially after we recently went through and blew things up a bunch?

[Aelex]

Plus it's easier, as I've said before, the govt/trafficker on our end doesn't want to stop. They decry anyone who does as "racist", or bigoted. And Antifa over there isn't nearly as inept as they are in the States.

Yep, that's the main problem. The E.U is turning a blind eye toward that problem because it doesn't see it as so. The Italians have been begging for money to help them with deploying their navy to fight against it for months and they still have received jack-shit.

Never did I think that a Bonapartist would agree with something so...anti-egalitarian. Times are interesting.

Héhé, well, I love my State to be big and powerful but I don't want it to be totalitarian and omnipresent neither. The State is here to guide us, not to control us.

[Ifreann]

Why do you think this involves hiring African mercenaries? Or any mercenaries, for that matter?

Because they know that stuff.

What stuff? Putting their boat between rescuers and refugees? I don't think advanced naval maneuvering would be involved.

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Refugees committing terrorist attacks doesn't make it acceptable to interfere with rescue operations at sea and endanger people's lives.

The "interference"

Don't put it in scare-quotes when you know full well it is interference.

is a crucial part of ensuring that these people don't make landfall in Europe. It is nobody's problem but their own if they don't have enough supplies to hack it on the open sea. It means they have to turn back and forget about trying to migrate to Europe.

Why people need rescuing is irrelevant. Preventing that rescue, and endangering people's lives while doing so, is not acceptable. It's tantamount to trying to kill those in need of rescue, the same as they were running fire engines off the road to stop them from saving people.

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Because they know that stuff.

Because I assume they would be Privateers. As per the definition "an armed ship owned and officered by private individuals holding a government commission and authorized for use in war, especially in the capture of enemy merchant shipping." In this case, replace "government" with "Bootleg Hentai Autist Friend Simulator" and "war" with "refugee crisis", and "merchant shipping" with civilian craft. Again, I may be wrong in terms of definition/interpretation, but "paying unscrupulous dudes to do your dirty work on the down low" sounds an awful lot like privateering and what's happening right now.

Again, why do you think this funding is going towards hiring mercenaries rather than equipping the twats soliciting the donations themselves?

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So you're fine having their blood on your hands if they die out there as a result of this "interference"?

When you are committing a crime, you have to accept that there are consequences to it. If you die while trying to smuggle yourself illegally in a country, well, too bad, you should have stayed at home.

Presumably you would have no objection to refugees bring along some guns to defend against pirates. If the pirates die trying to prevent rescue operations at sea, according to you that's the consequences of their crime.

[Aelex]

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

And we can keep on expelling them.

[Internationalist Bastard]

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

Wait, you're saying helping 3rd world nations develop means more people would want to stay there, especially after we recently went through and blew things up a bunch?

I already will for fucking an asian. Anyway, the states did it with Honduras, seemed to slow the tide of migration significantly

[Internationalist Bastard]

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

And we can keep on expelling them.

Which solves nothing

[Imperializt Russia]

Of fucking course this got 30 pages of replies in 16 hours.

[Great Minarchistan]

But then they'll keep illegally immigrating

And we can keep on expelling them.

Nah, the cure of the root is just end the welfare state from the Western European countries.

[Aelex]

Presumably you would have no objection to refugees bring along some guns to defend against pirates. If the pirates die trying to prevent rescue operations at sea, according to you that's the consequences of their crime.

Oh sure thing. Twould be neato if they could bring cameras too so to broadcast it. Naumachia is sweet as fuck, after all.

[Proctopeo]

And we can keep on expelling them.

Which solves nothing

We could make it into a game show. You know, like that one issue on that nation simulator.

[Kubra]

they turn em over the italian coast guard, bruv. Is that smuggling?

The huff post article literally says this guy Mohamed was tasked by his smuggler with steering a boatful of illegals. So, yeah, they are smuggling unvetted "refugees". But fuck borders and law and shit.

The point of contention is that they're fucking with NGO's that rescue vessels in distress, not the smugglers themselves.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Of fucking course this got 30 pages of replies in 16 hours.

Almost none of this about the actual op though so...

[Aelex]

Which solves nothing

It does, it means they ain't on our soil anymore. Problem solved for us. :^)

[Imperializt Russia]

Of fucking course this got 30 pages of replies in 16 hours.

Almost none of this about the actual op though so...

This page seems to be on topic.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Which solves nothing

It does, it means they ain't on our soil anymore. Problem solved for us. :^)

Till they come back

[Thermodolia]

I don't even know how to react, lol

WRA, c'mon, this is the AnCap dream! Physically Remove trespassers!

Ya but terrorizing innocents? No thanks

[Internationalist Bastard]

Almost none of this about the actual op though so...

This page seems to be on topic.

This is, a lot of it is saying they should've migrated legally, rather then commenting on the whole pirates being funded to kill them bit

[Aelex]

Till they come back

And then we can expel them again and again 'till they don't come anymore. Attrition is on our side. ;^)

[TURTLESHROOM II]

I don't get the problem here. These "pirates" are cutting engines from migrant invasion boats and routing them back to Libya where they belong. The invasion of Muslim migrants (many of them hostile and most, but not all, of them men of prime breeding age too cowardly to fight for their nation) should entirely cease. Europe has enough Muslims already, the last we need is more of them.
Haven't the multiple terror attacks performed by these groups that sneak in convinced you enough that this group is NEEDED?

First, this isn't piracy; piracy is the unlawful boarding of a ship without the ship master's consent (regardless of intent, Greenpeace was charged with piracy for trying to board a Russian oil tanker to protest). Second, they're not going to be killing these people where they stand. Third, European countries are supposed to be doing this by their own laws.

Simply sending them back to the coast they tried to launch from is neither a crime nor a bad act. These people are patriots and governments should subsidize them for as long as they are refusing to do their job.

[Great Minarchistan]

Till they come back

And then we can expel them again and again 'till they don't come anymore. Attrition is on our side. ;^)

That looks like an oncologist telling a patient that instead of removing the cancer definitely, it's better for him just to make several surgeries to limit the size of the cancer.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Till they come back

And then we can expel them again and again 'till they don't come anymore. Attrition is on our side. ;^)

That's gonna cost a lot of money in the long run though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/28/deportation-costs-immigration/307548001/
That's the US of course but still, that quite a lot of money for a treatment rather then a cure