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Postby Randsbeik » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:37 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
Oh I'm sure the military age looking "children" can swim back to the African coast just fine.

>Children

Lel.


If you are against having 50% taxes so these poor innocent children can come in here by the literal boatload, you must be racist, fascist, misogynist, and also Hitler incarnate!
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:43 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:Oh I'm sure the military age looking "children" can swim back to the African coast just fine.

Life is so much more fun when you start seeing things in terms of "Age on the clock, old enough to hold a glock", huh?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:47 pm

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Neo Balka wrote:>Children

Lel.


If you are against having 50% taxes so these poor innocent children can come in here by the literal boatload, you must be racist, fascist, misogynist, and also Hitler incarnate!


Things no one has said: that.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:52 pm

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I find it interesting they fail to mention the version that probably has the most publicity, to the point it became a meme.

What's that?

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:59 pm

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Proctopeo wrote:I find it interesting they fail to mention the version that probably has the most publicity, to the point it became a meme.

What's that?

The "You say not all men are monsters?" version.
The earliest version of the phrase I can find, and the one that became memetic.
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Postby Minzerland II » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:16 pm

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Liriena wrote:Mass murder, yay! Dead children galore!


Oh I'm sure the military age looking "children" can swim back to the African coast just fine.

Age is just a number. :^)
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Postby Randsbeik » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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If you are against having 50% taxes so these poor innocent children can come in here by the literal boatload, you must be racist, fascist, misogynist, and also Hitler incarnate!


Things no one has said: that.


Sarcasm isn't easily conveyed through text yet I have trouble believing you took that at face value.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:02 pm

Randsbeik wrote:Sarcasm isn't easily conveyed through text yet I have trouble believing you took that at face value.

"It's sarcasm", like "It's a joke" does not actually negate what you said.

If I say, "Sure, I'm a undercover Chinese spy" sarcastically, that still, as a response, implies that someone called me or suggested I was an undercover Chinese spy. Likewise, your statement, while sarcastically mocking the idea, implies that that is, to some degree, the opinion of the opposition, however exaggerated.

If you can't man up and claim what you said, don't hide behind weak excuses like a coward; just don't say it.
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Postby Randsbeik » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:09 pm

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Randsbeik wrote:Sarcasm isn't easily conveyed through text yet I have trouble believing you took that at face value.

"It's sarcasm", like "It's a joke" does not actually negate what you said.

If I say, "Sure, I'm a undercover Chinese spy" sarcastically, that still, as a response, implies that someone called me or suggested I was an undercover Chinese spy. Likewise, your statement, while sarcastically mocking the idea, implies that that is, to some degree, the opinion of the opposition, however exaggerated.

If you can't man up and claim what you said, don't hide behind weak excuses like a coward; just don't say it.


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the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

Anything is "implied" if you try hard enough to make yourself think it is.

I wouldn't mind if someone did the same to my side of the argument; it isn't really worth making a fuss over. It's intent was humor. If you didn't find any, that's alright with me.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:15 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What's that?

The "You say not all men are monsters?" version.
The earliest version of the phrase I can find, and the one that became memetic.

First I've heard of it.

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:The "You say not all men are monsters?" version.
The earliest version of the phrase I can find, and the one that became memetic.

First I've heard of it.

I heard of it prior to that time Trump Jr. copied it.
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Postby Athrax » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:50 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:The "You say not all men are monsters?" version.
The earliest version of the phrase I can find, and the one that became memetic.

First I've heard of it.

This is the earliest instance of that meme I ever saw. Ironically, the same people who were opposed to it when Eric, Jr. posted the meme seemed to be in favor of the meme when it was about men. But that could just be a perception problem on my part.

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:59 pm

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Ifreann wrote:First I've heard of it.

This is the earliest instance of that meme I ever saw. Ironically, the same people who were opposed to it when Eric, Jr. posted the meme seemed to be in favor of the meme when it was about men. But that could just be a perception problem on my part.

I saw that, too.

Personally, I always thought that the usage of a very similar phrase was intentional on Eric's part, and was intended to make that kind of people (as well as many others) upset. He's only 33. We don't know what he's seen on the Internet.
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:17 pm

Bassoe wrote:Guardian article
Independent article
Huffington Post article
"Defend Europe" website of the pirates

The latest example of cartoonish supervillainy from the alt-right, crowdfunding an armada to sabotage efforts to rescue migrants in the mediterranean and no part of that was a metaphor, this is an actual thing now. None of the articles specify if the privateers will set sail under the kekistani flag so I am forced to assume that they will.


Considering the sheer absurdity of it all, I just have to ask: would it be considered Cruel and Unusual Punishment under International Law, if the refugees who were caught were forced to watch the most violent parts of Quentin Tarantino's movies, and then forced to sing "In the Navy" as they're waiting for the European Navies to take them back to the North African/Middle Eastern countries where their travel plans to Europe originated?
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:19 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
Oh I'm sure the military age looking "children" can swim back to the African coast just fine.

Age is just a number. :^)


Indeed, boats sunk is simply a statistic.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:22 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Bassoe wrote:Guardian article
Independent article
Huffington Post article
"Defend Europe" website of the pirates

The latest example of cartoonish supervillainy from the alt-right, crowdfunding an armada to sabotage efforts to rescue migrants in the mediterranean and no part of that was a metaphor, this is an actual thing now. None of the articles specify if the privateers will set sail under the kekistani flag so I am forced to assume that they will.


Considering the sheer absurdity of it all, I just have to ask: would it be considered Cruel and Unusual Punishment under International Law, if the refugees who were caught were forced to watch the most violent parts of Quentin Tarantino's movies, and then forced to sing "In the Navy" as they're waiting for the European Navies to take them back to the North African/Middle Eastern countries where their travel plans to Europe originated?

Depends on if that "and" means both at the same time, or at least one of them.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:28 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Bassoe wrote:Guardian article
Independent article
Huffington Post article
"Defend Europe" website of the pirates

The latest example of cartoonish supervillainy from the alt-right, crowdfunding an armada to sabotage efforts to rescue migrants in the mediterranean and no part of that was a metaphor, this is an actual thing now. None of the articles specify if the privateers will set sail under the kekistani flag so I am forced to assume that they will.


Considering the sheer absurdity of it all, I just have to ask: would it be considered Cruel and Unusual Punishment under International Law, if the refugees who were caught were forced to watch the most violent parts of Quentin Tarantino's movies, and then forced to sing "In the Navy" as they're waiting for the European Navies to take them back to the North African/Middle Eastern countries where their travel plans to Europe originated?

Doesn't Denmark or some Scandinavian country make immigrants watch a video depicting their very liberal lifestyle?
Nude beaches, drinking, and clubbing or some such to discourage immigrants who can't live in such a liberal society.
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Postby Zanera » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:52 pm

Sounds like an awfully mean thing to do. I also don't get why they want to go out in the middle of the day on the ocean when it's hot af just to be assholes to a bunch of people on dinghies.

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:23 pm

The Greater Europa League wrote:Thank God someone is doing something about the migrant Invaders.


They're not fucking invaders.

Grand Britannia wrote:How do I send money?

Anything to stem the flow of crap getting shoved down people's throats.


Let me guess, "morals are subjective so it's okay to kill brown people :^)))"? Am I about right there?
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Postby Nocturnalis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:30 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Greater Europa League wrote:Thank God someone is doing something about the migrant Invaders.


They're not fucking invaders.

They are (attempting to) enter countries en masse without regard for said countries' laws or people. They are invaders, and deserve to be driven into the sea as invaders do.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:32 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:How do I send money?

Anything to stem the flow of crap getting shoved down people's throats.


Let me guess, "morals are subjective so it's okay to kill brown people :^)))"? Am I about right there?


You use the military to stop invaders, no?
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:34 pm

Nocturnalis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
They're not fucking invaders.

They are (attempting to) enter countries en masse without regard for said countries' laws or people. They are invaders, and deserve to be driven into the sea as invaders do.


Refugees and migrants aren't invaders, and the idea that they should be killed because they're looking for a better life is frankly fucking stupid.

Grand Britannia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


Let me guess, "morals are subjective so it's okay to kill brown people :^)))"? Am I about right there?


You use the military to stop invaders, no?


Pirates aren't military forces, for one, and for two, the European coast guards are saving their lives.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:37 pm

Nocturnalis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
They're not fucking invaders.

They are (attempting to) enter countries en masse without regard for said countries' laws or people. They are invaders, and deserve to be driven into the sea as invaders do.

So you are changing definitions to justify genocide.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:37 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Nocturnalis wrote:They are (attempting to) enter countries en masse without regard for said countries' laws or people. They are invaders, and deserve to be driven into the sea as invaders do.


Refugees and migrants aren't invaders, and the idea that they should be killed because they're looking for a better life is frankly fucking stupid.

Grand Britannia wrote:
You use the military to stop invaders, no?


Pirates aren't military forces, for one, and for two, the European coast guards are saving their lives.


Now I never said it had to be a "formal" military; second, nothing bad with sending them back to the coast they originally sailed out from.
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Postby Nocturnalis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:38 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Nocturnalis wrote:They are (attempting to) enter countries en masse without regard for said countries' laws or people. They are invaders, and deserve to be driven into the sea as invaders do.


Refugees and migrants aren't invaders, and the idea that they should be killed because they're looking for a better life is frankly fucking stupid.

"Migrant" and "Invader" are not mutually exclusive terms, and the idea that these people should have a "better life" at the expense of another region's (a region that they are entering forcefully, mind) native inhabitants is frankly fucking stupid. Would it not be better for them to stay in their own countries and aim to improve them rather than moving to another country and leaving it worse off?
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