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Nova Stephania
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Postby Nova Stephania » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nocturnalis wrote:Ah, the good ol'' "I'm suffering more than you so your problems are irrelevant".

Cry me a river.

Well yes. Rich people problems aren't that important because they got money and comfort and lots of it. If I ever become rich I'd still say the same thing, that I have no clue about being poor.

Money changes people.

That being said I don't care what rich people do with their money or bodies within reason. They just don't get to say "oh woe is me my life is so damn hard" when in reality it's not

Money isn't everything, you know.

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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:20 am

I didn't think it was possible for something to make me hate /the hamptons more, but here it is
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:21 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don't own a computer.


You have access to one, which is still more than many people can say.

Public libraries are a thing. Also read me edit and remember that in several nations owning a computer is extremely common place as they are pretty inexpensive
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:24 am

Nova Stephania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well yes. Rich people problems aren't that important because they got money and comfort and lots of it. If I ever become rich I'd still say the same thing, that I have no clue about being poor.

Money changes people.

That being said I don't care what rich people do with their money or bodies within reason. They just don't get to say "oh woe is me my life is so damn hard" when in reality it's not

Money isn't everything, you know.

Ya but again money can take can of a lot of problems and ifthe topic is a woman is trying to get money from a man then yes money matters
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:Public libraries are a thing

Yes, and you have access to them because you're not a child soldier or sex slave so never complain about anything.
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Postby Nova Stephania » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nova Stephania wrote:Money isn't everything, you know.

Ya but again money can take can of a lot of problems and ifthe topic is a woman is trying to get money from a man then yes money matters

My point is rich people can suffer too and it in no way diminishes their suffering unless you think throwing money at a problem is a universal solution, it just seems to me little more than a reverse form of snobbery.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:27 am

Vassenor wrote:Or you could just, I don't know, not go around screwing every woman who crosses your path unless you're prepared to accept responsibility for what happens next.

They ar3 by getting thrmselves snipped.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:35 am

So there's not much research on the prevalence of women stopping, sabotaging, or lying about birth control but I've found one study with 5% of men reporting a woman stopping contraception without telling them and half of those incidences resulting in pregnancy. Maybe these people are overestimating how common a problem is but this is something that happens, not just to get money out of someone but to control them, this is a form of abuse.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:55 am

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What's bullshit about it?

The extent to which these concerns are taken deadly serious and that all women are assumed to exist to "trap" men with babies.


Y'know, there's nobody saying this, that all women are assumed to exist to trap men with babies.

But, when there's more than 3 and a half billion women in the planet to fuck, I wouldn't be surprised if one of them is exactly that.

And all it takes is one person to fuck up your life, it doesn't take 10 or 20.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:00 am

Nothing wrong with that decision.
If they have no intention to have children then getting snipped is a wise move.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:06 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Public libraries are a thing

Yes, and you have access to them because you're not a child soldier or sex slave so never complain about anything.

Did you actually read anything I posted?
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:08 am

Good riddance, I guess... Wealthy men who could otherwise afford to have large families just demonstrate their lack of moral fibre and general uselesness to society with such a decision, so I suppose it is only good that their sort eliminate themselves from the future gene-pool.
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Postby Ambarii » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:08 am

It's pretty messed up that so many wealthy individuals with the means to provide excellent environments for their children are not reproducing. Yet, there are impoverished families with over 5 children and barely any resources to educate or nurture them. This is a worrying trend.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:12 am

Ambarii wrote:It's pretty messed up that so many wealthy individuals with the means to provide excellent environments for their children are not reproducing. Yet, there are impoverished families with over 5 children and barely any resources to educate or nurture them. This is a worrying trend.

And how exactly can you connect one to the other?
You think they should reproduce and create more children when we're already having trouble taking care of the children we DO have?
And you think that's logical?

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Postby Nova Stephania » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:12 am

Ambarii wrote:It's pretty messed up that so many wealthy individuals with the means to provide excellent environments for their children are not reproducing. Yet, there are impoverished families with over 5 children and barely any resources to educate or nurture them. This is a worrying trend.

This is why I pointed out earlier that I actually hope this results in an uptick in adoption rates, however minor it would be. It's likely these guys will still want children one day even if they can't conceive their own.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:13 am

One can't be too careful when engaging with bargoyles. A smart move indeed.

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:Did you actually read anything I posted?


Yes, it very short sighted.
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Postby Olerand » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:23 am

Uh... If this is really such an issue... Then why not just use protection, or, I don't know, don't sleep with many women, particularly does who you don't know.

Seems like a rather drastic solution to a very minor problem.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:24 am

Olerand wrote:Uh... If this is really such an issue... Then why not just use protection, or, I don't know, don't sleep with many women, particularly does who you don't know.

Seems like a rather drastic solution to a very minor problem.

Because now they don't have to make the effort use of condoms every time.

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:25 am

Olerand wrote:Uh... If this is really such an issue... Then why not just use protection, or, I don't know, don't sleep with many women, particularly does who you don't know.

Seems like a rather drastic solution to a very minor problem.


Because after a cost-benefit analysis they made this decision.
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Postby Olerand » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:31 am

Genivaria wrote:
Olerand wrote:Uh... If this is really such an issue... Then why not just use protection, or, I don't know, don't sleep with many women, particularly does who you don't know.

Seems like a rather drastic solution to a very minor problem.

Because now they don't have to make the effort use of condoms every time.

It appears so. I guess, if that's really the issue...

Des-Bal wrote:
Olerand wrote:Uh... If this is really such an issue... Then why not just use protection, or, I don't know, don't sleep with many women, particularly does who you don't know.

Seems like a rather drastic solution to a very minor problem.


Because after a cost-benefit analysis they made this decision.

Oh certainly, I'm sure they have their reasons. It is their vas deferens, and their right to cut it. It just seems odd and rather drastic as a solution.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:33 am

Olerand wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Because now they don't have to make the effort use of condoms every time.

It appears so. I guess, if that's really the issue...

Des-Bal wrote:
Because after a cost-benefit analysis they made this decision.

Oh certainly, I'm sure they have their reasons. It is their vas deferens, and their right to cut it. It just seems odd and rather drastic as a solution.

I agree that I don't think gold-digging women trying to get pregnant is as much of an issue as some seem to think, still vasectomy is a valid and logical means of preventing parenthood if you don't want to be a parent.

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Postby Ambarii » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:34 am

Genivaria wrote:You think they should reproduce and create more children when we're already having trouble taking care of the children we DO have?
And you think that's logical?

Yes, since they have the resources to provide a stable environment for their children so that they can become productive and contributing members of society. What isn't logical is your solution of not reproducing. Population decline has had catastrophic consequences for many nations, it would be no different in the US. Who exactly is supposed to support the 36 million retired workers on social security? Long periods of underpopulation are not economically sustainable.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:37 am

Ambarii wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You think they should reproduce and create more children when we're already having trouble taking care of the children we DO have?
And you think that's logical?

Yes, since they have the resources to provide a stable environment for their children so that they can become productive and contributing members of society. What isn't logical is your solution of not reproducing. Population decline has had catastrophic consequences for many nations, it would be no different in the US. Who exactly is supposed to support the 36 million retired workers on social security? Long periods of underpopulation is not economically sustainable.

So we're supposed to pressure people who don't want to be parents into becoming parents?
Instead of say actually funding programs to take care children that actually exist?
About 15 MILLION children in the US live in poverty, why is that not more of a concern for you then rich men having children?

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:50 am

Nova Stephania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya but again money can take can of a lot of problems and ifthe topic is a woman is trying to get money from a man then yes money matters

My point is rich people can suffer too and it in no way diminishes their suffering unless you think throwing money at a problem is a universal solution, it just seems to me little more than a reverse form of snobbery.

No I'm not saying that rich people don't suffer, I'm saying that they don't suffer as much as a poor person who was delt a bad hand
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