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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:55 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:You know at first this sounded like a Keshiland idea its stupid and so is the op's thought process of thinking we should assume everything is genetic until proven otherwise. Go back to biology class OP you clearly didn't do very good if this is what you think would solve bullying.

Perhaps you just have genes that are causing you to disagree with OP.

Let's start sterilizing people who disagree with OP and see if in a few centuries humanity is more likely to look favorably on this thread.
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Postby Mandicoria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:55 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:then why don't you have anything else better to do other than posting this topic on some forum.

There's theoretically an infinite number of possible reasons why that could be the case. Your initial assumption being that I was still in school reveal more about you than about me.

what did it reveal, that i was being worried for your wellbeing?

seriously dude, don't you have a job or something you could be doing? if you went to college you wouldn't be debating such things on nationstates of all places.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:56 pm

At first I thought the title was "Should BULLETS be sterilized?"
Turns out the actual title is just as pointless.

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:56 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:No. It's the opposite. Hitler sided with those who took pride in brute strength, let alone willingness to use it against the weak and vulnerable, instead of siding with the weak and vulnerable over those who would use brute strength against them. And by the way, he didn't exactly limit himself to sterilizations.


Everything boils down to the definition of "bully", honey. Snowflakes will push for sterilizing everyone who disagree with them. That's why it's comparable to Hitler's plan.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:58 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:You know at first this sounded like a Keshiland idea its stupid and so is the op's thought process of thinking we should assume everything is genetic until proven otherwise. Go back to biology class OP you clearly didn't do very good if this is what you think would solve bullying.

I was thinking IM myself.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:59 pm

Only if they're bronies.

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Postby Oudland » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:00 pm

Ya know, after giving it a little more thought, I think everyone should be sterilized. Let's just end it, please.
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Postby Mandicoria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:00 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Only if they're bronies.

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:00 pm

Mandicoria wrote:what did it reveal, that i was being worried for your wellbeing?

On the Internet? Not likely. It simply casts a question mark on your judgment. Not a black mark or anything, but definitely something that might make you need to re-evaluate your assumptions about school, work, and people's reasons for partaking in webforums.


Mandicoria wrote:seriously dude, don't you have a job or something you could be doing?

Waiting to hear back on one I was particularly gung-ho about. To avoid being too identifying, I'll leave it at that.


Mandicoria wrote: if you went to college you wouldn't be debating such things on nationstates of all places.

Even when I was in college, the debate club's schedule didn't always mesh with mine.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:02 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:No. It's the opposite. Hitler sided with those who took pride in brute strength, let alone willingness to use it against the weak and vulnerable, instead of siding with the weak and vulnerable over those who would use brute strength against them. And by the way, he didn't exactly limit himself to sterilizations.


Everything boils down to the definition of "bully", honey. Snowflakes will push for sterilizing everyone who disagree with them. That's why it's comparable to Hitler's plan.

The "special snowflake" types have their own flaws, but siding with those who are proud of picking on the weak isn't one of them. There is nothing to suggest they don't see themselves as punching up instead of down.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Victores » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:02 pm

Lamarckian genetics aren't real. Otherswise we'd be sentencing criminals families.
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Postby Gurori » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:03 pm

No, Bullying isn't genetic.

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Postby Mandicoria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:04 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:what did it reveal, that i was being worried for your wellbeing?

On the Internet? Not likely. It simply casts a question mark on your judgment. Not a black mark or anything, but definitely something that might make you need to re-evaluate your assumptions about school, work, and people's reasons for partaking in webforums.


Mandicoria wrote:seriously dude, don't you have a job or something you could be doing?

Waiting to hear back on one I was particularly gung-ho about. To avoid being too identifying, I'll leave it at that.


Mandicoria wrote: if you went to college you wouldn't be debating such things on nationstates of all places.

Even when I was in college, the debate club's schedule didn't always mesh with mine.

1. find your chill broski, you're also assuming hardcore

2. i'll assume that's a no

3. i'd assume someone who went to a respectable institution wouldn't waste their time with such trivial things like debating with random people on the internet.


i'd assume a lot since it's the internet
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Postby Oudland » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:04 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:
Everything boils down to the definition of "bully", honey. Snowflakes will push for sterilizing everyone who disagree with them. That's why it's comparable to Hitler's plan.

The "special snowflake" types have their own flaws, but siding with those who are proud of picking on the weak isn't one of them. There is nothing to suggest they don't see themselves as punching up instead of down.


You have a very shallow and basic understanding of what went down with Hitler, it seems.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:06 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:then why haven't you gone to college

I have. Nice try, though.

Until proven otherwise, you're still in middle school. *Nod*
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:06 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:
Everything boils down to the definition of "bully", honey. Snowflakes will push for sterilizing everyone who disagree with them. That's why it's comparable to Hitler's plan.

The "special snowflake" types have their own flaws, but siding with those who are proud of picking on the weak isn't one of them. There is nothing to suggest they don't see themselves as punching up instead of down.


Perhaps the bullied should fight back? Why not punish the weak instead? If we are going to be using warped logic, lets go all out.

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Postby Fetlar » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:09 pm

Maybe not sterilize them to ensure that the bullying cannot be passed down (which it cant, as it isn't a hereditary thing), but to punish the bully?
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:10 pm

The best way to deal with bullies is to fight back and then fix them once they have been humbled. I ended my bullying my beating the shit out of one of them.

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:10 pm

Mandicoria wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:On the Internet? Not likely. It simply casts a question mark on your judgment. Not a black mark or anything, but definitely something that might make you need to re-evaluate your assumptions about school, work, and people's reasons for partaking in webforums.



Waiting to hear back on one I was particularly gung-ho about. To avoid being too identifying, I'll leave it at that.



Even when I was in college, the debate club's schedule didn't always mesh with mine.

1. find your chill broski, you're also assuming hardcore

2. i'll assume that's a no

3. i'd assume someone who went to a respectable institution wouldn't waste their time with such trivial things like debating with random people on the internet.


i'd assume a lot since it's the internet

Then what are you doing here? Aren't there jobs you yourself could be applying to? Or working overtime at so as to save up money to go to a "respectable institution" yourself?

It's almost as if "not knowing what someone's doing here" doesn't immediately prove the first explanation that comes to mind.

I went to a campus where the campus clubs seemed reasonable enough. But for many campuses, the same could not be said. And post-college, activism can be a liability to employability; at least until you've got your foot in the door.

Ideally, we should fix both problems. In the meantime, the Internet will have to do.
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Victores » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:11 pm

Bullying is good. I was growing up to be your standard sucessful student. Then I was bullied and decided to grow up to be a military dictator. Bullying opened my eyes to new and better jobs that I wasn't interested in before.
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Postby Mandicoria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:11 pm

New haven america wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:I have. Nice try, though.

Until proven otherwise, you're still in middle school. *Nod*

hey now let's not insult the duder, i'd assume they went to a somewhat respectable institution. especially if they bring up this subject.
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Postby Benjabobaria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:13 pm

It's common for people to become bullies after being subject to bullying, abuse, or various other factors. Emotional trauma leads to a desire for revenge. Being a bully is not genetic :rofl:
Seriously, the OP needs to talk to adults that used to be bullies. I wouldn't be surprised if they've never seen a bully in their life.

we kinda should sterilize weeaboos though
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Postby Brotherhood of Freedom » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:13 pm

Basically you are questioning if forced birth control is good if the people were bad?



Hellllllll no, that isn't good in the slightest. If you were to understand where bullying mostly comes from then it is probably a crime that doesn't fit the punishment.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:14 pm

New haven america wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:I have. Nice try, though.

Until proven otherwise, you're still in middle school. *Nod*

Hey, I never said you were obligated to accept my claims at face value either. I wasn't the one implying these things were relevant by bringing them up.

The burden of proof needs to be flipped in this case as a counterbalance to those who stack the deck against genetic explanations. It's the only way to force the issue.
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2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Mandicoria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:16 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:1. find your chill broski, you're also assuming hardcore

2. i'll assume that's a no

3. i'd assume someone who went to a respectable institution wouldn't waste their time with such trivial things like debating with random people on the internet.


i'd assume a lot since it's the internet

Then what are you doing here? Aren't there jobs you yourself could be applying to? Or working overtime at so as to save up money to go to a "respectable institution" yourself?

It's almost as if "not knowing what someone's doing here" doesn't immediately prove the first explanation that comes to mind.

I went to a campus where the campus clubs seemed reasonable enough. But for many campuses, the same could not be said. And post-college, activism can be a liability to employability; at least until you've got your foot in the door.

Ideally, we should fix both problems. In the meantime, the Internet will have to do.

i'm here because i saw you posting an utterly fucking retarded subject matter on a forum that is constantly in my eyesight when i just wanna check gameside. because i thought to myself "surely this person isn't this clueless". so i cared a little and asked why you're wasting your time typing here. not to insult you or anything, but i seriously doubt you went to an accredited institution if you think that bullying is a genetic thing over an attitude that just gets picked up.
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