Should bullies be sterilized?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

This is absurd. Bullying is not genetic. And we are really going to go around castrating kids for being mean while they are, you know, kids? That grow up? And arent bullies anymore? I was bullied, and Im not proud of it but i did a bit of bullying as well when I was a kid. Then the ones thar bullied me, and I as well, grew up and don't do that nonsense anymore. Thats how it works.

Being a kid is no excuse. It didn't make me a bully back then.

That said, I guess I got a bit ahead of myself earlier on. I should've been more specific. It should be used sparingly, and only on habitual offenders, not in response to one incident of bullying like in the scene I was talking about. But I still don't think we ought to be stacking the deck against eugenics or the reasoning used on its behalf either.

[Soviet Socialist and Peoples Republics]

This is absurd. Bullying is not genetic. And we are really going to go around castrating kids for being mean while they are, you know, kids? That grow up? And arent bullies anymore? I was bullied, and Im not proud of it but i did a bit of bullying as well when I was a kid. Then the ones thar bullied me, and I as well, grew up and don't do that nonsense anymore. Thats how it works.

Being a kid is no excuse. It didn't make me a bully back then.

That said, I guess I got a bit ahead of myself earlier on. I should've been more specific. It should be used sparingly, and only on habitual offenders, not in response to one incident of bullying like in the scene I was talking about. But I still don't think we ought to be stacking the deck against eugenics or the reasoning used on its behalf either.

You first.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Being a kid is no excuse. It didn't make me a bully back then.

That said, I guess I got a bit ahead of myself earlier on. I should've been more specific. It should be used sparingly, and only on habitual offenders, not in response to one incident of bullying like in the scene I was talking about. But I still don't think we ought to be stacking the deck against eugenics or the reasoning used on its behalf either.

You first.

Me first for what? Sterilization? Why?

[Oneracon]

No, because forced sterilization is a drastic violation of bodily autonomy.

[Sovaal]

You first.

Me first for what? Sterilization? Why?

Well, advocating for the sterilization of children rarely makes one sympathetic.

[Epic win awesome nice guys ever to world]

in ewangetw we sterilize all dirty cpaitalistt pigggs

[Soviet Socialist and Peoples Republics]

You first.

Me first for what? Sterilization? Why?

I have a general policy that especially nutty punishments for something we know how to solve better with lesser side effects should be tested first by the one who makes such a proposal.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Me first for what? Sterilization? Why?

I have a general policy that especially nutty punishments for something we know how to solve better with lesser side effects should be tested first by the one who makes such a proposal.

Such a notion misses the point of the proposal, then.

[Soviet Socialist and Peoples Republics]

I have a general policy that especially nutty punishments for something we know how to solve better with lesser side effects should be tested first by the one who makes such a proposal.

Such a notion misses the point of the proposal, then.

If you don't trust the measure enough to have it tried on you, why should we trust it enough to even consider it either?

[Republic of Greater Cuba]

Why the living fuck is this even a question? Being a bully is not a heritable trait, it comes into picture by different outside variables. Saying that being a bully is a trait is like saying being a Communist is a genetic trait

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Such a notion misses the point of the proposal, then.

If you don't trust the measure enough to have it tried on you, why should we trust it enough to even consider it either?

The point is to use it specifically on bullies, not on those who would have them sterilized. So no, it's not hypocritical.

I don't want it done to me because I'm considering having kids someday. Even if I wasn't, I wouldn't want this done to everyone who dares suggest it being done to those whose right to reproduce was taken away only through due process of law.

[Crysuko]

Why is this a serious question. How the hell would it be enforced?

[Saiwania]

Bullying in general is such a nothingburger, so insignificant, so unimportant, so trivial. It ain't nobody else's problem if you can't hack it against enduring or handling other people's bad behavior. If you can't deal with bullying on your own, how do you expect to function if at your job or adult life, your boss or a customer is a dick towards you? The outside world ain't no place to suffer fools.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Bullying in general is such a nothingburger, so insignificant, so unimportant, so trivial. It ain't nobody else's problem if you can't hack it against enduring or handling other people's bad behavior. If you can't deal with bullying on your own, how do you expect to function if at your job or adult life, your boss or a customer is a dick towards you? The outside world ain't no place to suffer fools.

The idea is that by sterilizing bullies, there are fewer people who will grow up to be dicks in their adult lives as well.

[Galloism]

Being a bully is not a heritable trait.

We don't know that. Why not find out?

Something something human rights violations.

[Deutsch Mitteleuropa]

Let's not. Because freedom. Also, anger is useful as fuck boi

[Republic of Greater Cuba]

Bullying in general is such a nothingburger, so insignificant, so unimportant, so trivial. It ain't nobody else's problem if you can't hack it against enduring or handling other people's bad behavior. If you can't deal with bullying on your own, how do you expect to function if at your job or adult life, your boss or a customer is a dick towards you? The outside world ain't no place to suffer fools.

The idea is that by sterilizing bullies, there are fewer people who will grow up to be dicks in their adult lives as well.

Why do you think sterilizing people will cause more people not to be dicks? Rule through fear?

[Saiwania]

The idea is that by sterilizing bullies, there are fewer people who will grow up to be dicks in their adult lives as well.

It won't accomplish anything of the sort, people quite simply change their behaviors too much throughout different stages of their lives. There is no one personality which is really set in stone.

[Purpelia]

I just spat out my drink after realizing what you meant by this, you are suggesting that people who are bullies should be down right killed? Not only would that be expensive as hell, but that would mean that anyone could be executed for any reason. Imagine it

_{Person A: "That shirt looks shitty"
Person B: "BULLY"
Cops: "Sorry bud, but being a bully means death or life in prison"}

You see what I am getting at?

What I am saying is that the entire premise of this thread is preposterous because the entire approach to the problem in every society on earth is it self preposterous.

Bullying is not a thing. It is not a single act or crime. What it is, is a catch all term that encompasses a whole slew of criminal behavior ranging from as racketeering and assault to verbal, physical and at times sexual abuse if these should happen to occur within a school setting.

Therefore, it is as idiotic and counterproductive to try and find a single reason or a single "cure" for the thing as it is to try and find a single pill that cures both the bubonic plague, clap and cancer all in one. So instead of doing some sort of weird maiming ritual where we remove peoples reproductive function in the name of revenge thinly disguised between a veil strait out of 1930's eugenics we should just treat every single individual incident like the crime that it is and punish it with what ever measures the law demands for that particular act. And this might, depending on your location and local laws, include the death penalty.

[Anere]

This is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard, and I have heard a tonne of ridiculous things.

Many times, bullies bully others because they feel like something is bad with themselves or because something is happening in the family. The majority of bullies aren't bullies because they just have that inside them, they bully others because they want to feel better about themselves. Sterilizing them makes them feel worse about themselves, makes them feel akin to sexual predators. Remember, these are children.

[Republic Of Varra]

Implying all bullies are jerks for hereditary reasons, and not how their brought up, how they could be mentally damaged themselves, or have not seen the error of their ways yet. Then suggesting we should sterilize them so they can not have a happiness that all humans should enjoy, and taking away a human's rights as well in the process.

Verdict:

Hard disagree.

[Soviet Socialist and Peoples Republics]

If you don't trust the measure enough to have it tried on you, why should we trust it enough to even consider it either?

The point is to use it specifically on bullies, not on those who would have them sterilized. So no, it's not hypocritical.

I don't want it done to me because I'm considering having kids someday. Even if I wasn't, I wouldn't want this done to everyone who dares suggest it being done to those whose right to reproduce was taken away only through due process of law.

I mean we could test if inane proposals are a heritable trait. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[New Pantuxia]

What is this thread

[The Two Jerseys]

What is this thread

Don't ask, just run while you still can!

[Holy Marsh]

No. Nothing has been said in support that makes sense or is agreeable. My verdict is no.