When the White Power walkers emerge, with their army of dead ideas.
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by Neanderthaland » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:57 pm
by Ohioan Territory » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:01 pm
by Longweather » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:17 pm
by Cedoria » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:22 pm
by Bombadil » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:22 pm
Saikaya wrote:what would sterilizing them do
by Meritocratic Fascists » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:32 pm
by Polvamaa » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:35 pm
by New Axiom » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:41 am
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.
by The Alma Mater » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:59 am
Longweather wrote:I... I'm having difficulty finding words to how atrocious I find this idea. Seriously, this belongs in the pile of simple solutions that are 100% wrong.
by New haven america » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:04 am
by Lady Scylla » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:35 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkKTY_ZljyU#t=108s
So this scene (but mostly the groin kick at about 108 seconds in) got me thinking; that might make him sterile, and in so doing, reduce the population of bullies in the next generation.
Why aren't we doing this on a larger, more lawful scale, rather than leaving individuals who take the matter into their own hands (or in this case, their own feet) to risk prosecution? Why do we keep relying on ineffective anti-bullying strategies that fight the uphill battle against bullies' very nature when we could be literally cutting off bullying at the source?
by Esternial » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:44 am
by Esternial » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:48 am
From the evolutionary point of view, aggressive
behavior is likely to be adaptive. Aggression could aid
securing food and safe resting places, protecting the
young, and obtaining advantage in a reproductive
context. However, not all levels of aggression are
adaptive or equally adaptive. As Edward O. Wilson
(1975, p. 254) pointed out, ‘‘in order to be adaptive it is
enough that aggressive patterns be evoked only under
certain conditions of stress such as those that might
arise during food shortages and periodic high population
densities.’’ A level of aggression adaptive to a
certain set of conditions may not be adaptive to another.
Aggressive behavior adaptive to circumstances
one million years ago, 200 years ago in an agrarian
society, and contemporarily in a digital society is likely
to differ considerably. It is thus possible that some
genetic variants associated with serious and violent
delinquency today could have once had a selective
advantage.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:01 am
by Esternial » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:09 am
Conserative Morality wrote:Uh, because bullying is a behavior, not a heritable trait?
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:13 am
by Nova Stephania » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:24 am
by Esternial » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:38 am
Nova Stephania wrote:Esternial wrote:Such an short and absolute statement is, unfortunately, inaccurate to properly describe the heritability of certain behaviour.
As much as I respect that you went out of your way to find hard data on the subject the paper you linked is about aggressive behaviour in general, much of which can fall far outside of harmful behaviours such as bullying or violence. Even though it does say that there is a link between genetics and aggression it clearly states that only accounts for about half of the variance in behaviour, it also makes the points that; Firstly not all individuals who meet the genetic (and environmental) conditions will be affected by a predisposition toward aggression, and secondly that environmental interventions could be successful in reducing aggressive behaviour.
So while it explains a lot about the origins of aggressive behaviours, it does not in my opinion at all support the proposition of the OP.
by The Alma Mater » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:38 am
Nova Stephania wrote:What makes you think bullying is a hereditary trait? Bullies in my experience tend to be troubled people.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:39 am
Esternial wrote:That was never the point I tried to make, and I don't support the OPs radical suggestion. My post addresses the apparent misconception that bullying is something you can only acquire through environmental influences (e.g. how you're raised, interactions with friends, etc.).
It's not just something that can be "taught".
by Esternial » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:43 am
Conserative Morality wrote:Esternial wrote:That was never the point I tried to make, and I don't support the OPs radical suggestion. My post addresses the apparent misconception that bullying is something you can only acquire through environmental influences (e.g. how you're raised, interactions with friends, etc.).
It's not just something that can be "taught".
It absolutely is. Aggression does not translate to bullying.
by Esternial » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:59 am
We emphasize that human evolutionary behavioral strategies are not believed to be fixed, unresponsive, genetically pre-determined programs.
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