Van hits 6 on London bridge.

[Gauthier]

Bruh, it's just a meme.

I don't understand what you're trying to convey by this.

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

[Proctopeo]

I don't understand what you're trying to convey by this.

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

Or, more likely, as we're on the topic of memes, it's based on the meme "It's Just a Prank".

[Zanera]

Probably what people should do in the face of a terrorist attack. If you're not in fear, the 'terrorist' part falls flat, and so does whatever message they wanted to convey in that horrific way.

Ah yes, "If you kill your enemy, they win"

congrats to the Ariana Grande concert and the people on the London Bridge for the big wins

I did not mention anything about whether we should kill anyone or not.
Perhaps it's up to the police to work out some kind of better procedures without overstepping important boundaries.
It's up to the populace to not be reactionary and hysterical.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I don't understand what you're trying to convey by this.

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

Well, it is just a joke. That's what a meme usually is.

[Liriena]

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.

Does it make it any better?

They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Literally just a meme bruh.

Since when is "just a meme" synonymous with "this doesn't mean anything whatsoever and should never ever be held to any sort of scrutiny so please dear gawd don't think about what the people who make it and spread if may believe"? What makes memes, specially this sort of memes, such special snowflakes that they are beyond criticism?

[The East Marches II]

I do see it a bit important to note that the Caravan of Death killed about 100; Argentina's Equivalent killed about 10,000, and Auschwitz killed at least a few hundred thousand, probably closer to 1.5 million.
Make of these numbers what you wish, I'm just a messenger this time.

Oh, no, you don't get to drop numbers and pretend that you don't mean anything by it. Be honest.

Sure, you are being sensitive and have no sense of humor or proportion. Perpetual outrage over something that happened to people of your fellow ideology.

[The East Marches II]

I don't understand what you're trying to convey by this.

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

I'm sure you feel the same way about Bill Maher :^)

[Liriena]

Oh, no, you don't get to drop numbers and pretend that you don't mean anything by it. Be honest.

I can just drop numbers and mean inherently nothing, and I am being honest.
It is up to the reader to take from them what they want.

Why did you drop the numbers? Why did you look up the numbers and decide to post them?

[Gauthier]

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

I'm sure you feel the same way about Bill Maher :^)

Maher has his funny jokes, yes, but doesn't excuse him from being a bigoted asshole. Were you trying to score points just now?

[Proctopeo]

Does it make it any better?

Literally just a meme bruh.

Since when is "just a meme" synonymous with "this doesn't mean anything whatsoever and should never ever be held to any sort of scrutiny so please dear gawd don't think about what the people who make it and spread if may believe"? What makes memes, specially this sort of memes, such special snowflakes that they are beyond criticism?

I see this more as a "you shouldn't take it so seriously, it's just a meme", not "you can't criticize it, it's just a meme".

I can just drop numbers and mean inherently nothing, and I am being honest.
It is up to the reader to take from them what they want.

Why did you drop the numbers? Why did you look up the numbers and decide to post them?

Because I could, and because I like numbers.
Now, a question of my own: why are you so insistent that I have a motive here?

[The East Marches II]

I'm sure you feel the same way about Bill Maher :^)

Maher has his funny jokes, yes, but doesn't excuse him from being a bigoted asshole. Were you trying to score points just now?

Yes by calling you on your continual hypocrisy. Its ok if you're blue team!

[Liriena]

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

Leftists have gulag jokes, we have Pinochet jokes. Also I'll not that a considerable number of Chileans still like Pinochet. Hell, my old barber loved Pinochet. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a photo of him.

And some Germans still like Hitler, Berlusconi still loves Mussolini, and some Americans still support the KKK and fly the symbols of a rogue state created in defense of slavery. Horrible people often outlive the horrible regimes they supported.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Since when is "just a meme" synonymous with "this doesn't mean anything whatsoever and should never ever be held to any sort of scrutiny so please dear gawd don't think about what the people who make it and spread if may believe"? What makes memes, specially this sort of memes, such special snowflakes that they are beyond criticism?

I see this more as a "you shouldn't take it so seriously, it's just a meme", not "you can't criticize it, it's just a meme".

This.

[Gauthier]

Maher has his funny jokes, yes, but doesn't excuse him from being a bigoted asshole. Were you trying to score points just now?

Yes by calling you on your continual hypocrisy. Its ok if you're blue team!

Bill Maher is blue team now? Since when?

[Liriena]

Oh, no, you don't get to drop numbers and pretend that you don't mean anything by it. Be honest.

Sure, you are being sensitive and have no sense of humor or proportion. Perpetual outrage over something that happened to people of your fellow ideology.

I am sensitive. I have no trouble admitting to that, but me not finding "helicopter rides" funny doesn't make me humorless.

[Trollish Summertime]

OI.


Can we please get back on topic? (I've not been doing this myself admittedly.)

Can we... you know, talk about the events in London?

And not... the ethical nature of memes?

[Fartsniffage]

I see this more as a "you shouldn't take it so seriously, it's just a meme", not "you can't criticize it, it's just a meme".

This.

A meme about people dying, in a thread about a terrorist attack where people are dying.

Do you really have so little self-awareness and empathy that you can't get why people are pissed off by it?

[Nakena]

I don't understand what you're trying to convey by this.

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

Not only... it was just a theory.

Ah yes, "If you kill your enemy, they win"

congrats to the Ariana Grande concert and the people on the London Bridge for the big wins

I did not mention anything about whether we should kill anyone or not.
Perhaps it's up to the police to work out some kind of better procedures without overstepping important boundaries.
It's up to the populace to not be reactionary and hysterical.

It's the politicians who keep being screwing up, because they're unable to face the harsh realities of hard decisions and instead prefer to keep moving around the elephant inside the room. And the elephant that is that radical islamist ideology (and terrorist copycat attacks) is spreading like wildfire and they have no clue how to deal with that problem.

So more surveillance, more trying to keep the problem contained without actually addressing it and doing something about the terrorists in being.

[The East Marches II]

Sure, you are being sensitive and have no sense of humor or proportion. Perpetual outrage over something that happened to people of your fellow ideology.

I am sensitive. I have no trouble admitting to that, but me not finding "helicopter rides" funny doesn't make me humorless.

I would disagree with the latter part. Gulag memes are funny too.

[Liriena]

"It's a meme" in the same way conservatives say "It's just a joke" when confronted with having made an offensive statement.

I'm sure you feel the same way about Bill Maher :^)

I do. Bill Maher has always been a dick. I stopped paying attention to him after I grew out of my Hitchens phase.

[The East Marches II]

Yes by calling you on your continual hypocrisy. Its ok if you're blue team!

Bill Maher is blue team now? Since when?

You've never watched his show? He is very similar to yourself, I'm shocked you don't watch him.

[Napkiraly]

Leftists have gulag jokes, we have Pinochet jokes. Also I'll not that a considerable number of Chileans still like Pinochet. Hell, my old barber loved Pinochet. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a photo of him.

And some Germans still like Hitler, Berlusconi still loves Mussolini, and some Americans still support the KKK and fly the symbols of a rogue state created in defense of slavery. Horrible people often outlive the horrible regimes they supported.

Pinochet is hardly comparable to Hitler or the KKK.

[Kanadorika]

This.

A meme about people dying, in a thread about a terrorist attack where people are dying.

Do you really have so little self-awareness and empathy that you can't get why people are pissed off by it?

You would be surprised to find out that this so called "Gallows Humor" is prevalent among those who deal with death on a regular basis.

[Napkiraly]

Sure, you are being sensitive and have no sense of humor or proportion. Perpetual outrage over something that happened to people of your fellow ideology.

I am sensitive. I have no trouble admitting to that, but me not finding "helicopter rides" funny doesn't make me humorless.

Pretty sure you'd chuckle at a well executed Trotsky and ice axe joke.

[The East Marches II]

I'm sure you feel the same way about Bill Maher :^)

I do. Bill Maher has always been a dick. I stopped paying attention to him after I grew out of my Hitchens phase.

Disappointing tbh. I have found his show entertaining and enjoy the guests he brings on. He is a good sport if he gets BTFO'd.