Van hits 6 on London bridge.

[Trollish Summertime]

I meant what do you propose the government do to prevent further attacks?

Put a bit of extra effort into that Prevent thing?

As a Sixth Former, I'd have to agree with this.

Theoretically, schools are SUPPOSED to have a day where students(older students at least) learn about terrorism - my school and several other schools in my area have failed to do so.

So... try harder, government?

[Ifreann]

Notice many of the attackers were already on police or intelligence focus? Maybe paying extra attention to them would help.

What are the police going to do? They can only arrest suspects if they have evidence they're planning an attack. Are the police going to monitor them? Well no, because people like you would probably make police state accusations.

The police are monitoring them. And probably everyone else too. And people did complain, at length. This all already happened. Last year.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

>warmongering blowhard

I suppose he should have asked Herr Hitler to behave himself nicely with his inside voice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable

Operation Unthinkable? Against the Soviets?

[Napkiraly]

The alternative would be Helicopter rides

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

Leftists have gulag jokes, we have Pinochet jokes. Also I'll not that a considerable number of Chileans still like Pinochet. Hell, my old barber loved Pinochet. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a photo of him.

[Fartsniffage]

Notice many of the attackers were already on police or intelligence focus? Maybe paying extra attention to them would help.

What are the police going to do? They can only arrest suspects if they have evidence they're planning an attack. Are the police going to monitor them? Well no, because people like you would probably make police state accusations.

What makes a terrorist different from a murderer, a bank robber or a rapist? It would be nice if we could stop all criminal activity but constantly monitoring the whole population just isn't a feasible option. Bad shit will happen because some people are assholes, that's just life.

[Trollish Summertime]

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

Leftists have gulag jokes, we have Pinochet jokes. Also I'll not that a considerable number of Chileans still like Pinochet. Hell, my old barber loved Pinochet. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a photo of him.

But was your barber a real Chilean tho...?

[Fartsniffage]

Put a bit of extra effort into that Prevent thing?

As a Sixth Former, I'd have to agree with this.

Theoretically, schools are SUPPOSED to have a day where students(older students at least) learn about terrorism - my school and several other schools in my area have failed to do so.

So... try harder, government?

I'm not convinced that I'd be happy with sixth formers being taught how to be a terrorist, even if it's only for one day.

[Kanadorika]

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

Leftists have gulag jokes, we have Pinochet jokes. Also I'll not that a considerable number of Chileans still like Pinochet. Hell, my old barber loved Pinochet. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a photo of him.

Don't forget the icepick in the forehead memes.

[Proctopeo]

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

What makes you think I am anglophone?

Anyways: The Helicopter rides of Pinochet are a meme, based on the Caravan of Death who was an Death Squad who moved by Helicopter across Chile. Whether or not Pinochet had people killed by dropping them from Helicopters is another question, but the Helicopter Rides are actually dating back to Roger Trinquier and The Battle of Algiers. Argentina had actual death flights however.

And lastly: "Targeted killings" by Hellfire missiles from drones are already standard practice by various (including US and possibly UK) Government, which is a kinda messy thing prone to cause collateral damage. If you're interested in that topic watch this movie.

I do see it a bit important to note that the Caravan of Death killed about 100; Argentina's Equivalent killed about 10,000, and Auschwitz killed at least a few hundred thousand, probably closer to 1.5 million.
Make of these numbers what you wish, I'm just a messenger this time.

[Zanera]

I think we can all agree that this attack is awful and a tragedy. Now, what are we going to do to prevent attacks like this from happening again?

(I am not encouraging genocide so don't accuse me of it)

I'm probably going to carry on as normal. Anyone else up for that?

Probably what people should do in the face of a terrorist attack. If you're not in fear, the 'terrorist' part falls flat, and so does whatever message they wanted to convey in that horrific way.

[Liriena]

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

What makes you think I am anglophone?

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.

Anyways: The Helicopter rides of Pinochet are a meme

They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

[Liriena]

What makes you think I am anglophone?

Anyways: The Helicopter rides of Pinochet are a meme, based on the Caravan of Death who was an Death Squad who moved by Helicopter across Chile. Whether or not Pinochet had people killed by dropping them from Helicopters is another question, but the Helicopter Rides are actually dating back to Roger Trinquier and The Battle of Algiers. Argentina had actual death flights however.

And lastly: "Targeted killings" by Hellfire missiles from drones are already standard practice by various (including US and possibly UK) Government, which is a kinda messy thing prone to cause collateral damage. If you're interested in that topic watch this movie.

I do see it a bit important to note that the Caravan of Death killed about 100; Argentina's Equivalent killed about 10,000, and Auschwitz killed at least a few hundred thousand, probably closer to 1.5 million.
Make of these numbers what you wish, I'm just a messenger this time.

Oh, no, you don't get to drop numbers and pretend that you don't mean anything by it. Be honest.

[Kanadorika]

What makes you think I am anglophone?

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.

Anyways: The Helicopter rides of Pinochet are a meme

They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Are you are seriously trying to debate the ethics of a meme?

[Proctopeo]

I do see it a bit important to note that the Caravan of Death killed about 100; Argentina's Equivalent killed about 10,000, and Auschwitz killed at least a few hundred thousand, probably closer to 1.5 million.
Make of these numbers what you wish, I'm just a messenger this time.

Oh, no, you don't get to drop numbers and pretend that you don't mean anything by it. Be honest.

I can just drop numbers and mean inherently nothing, and I am being honest.
It is up to the reader to take from them what they want.

[Napkiraly]

Leftists have gulag jokes, we have Pinochet jokes. Also I'll not that a considerable number of Chileans still like Pinochet. Hell, my old barber loved Pinochet. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a photo of him.

But was your barber a real Chilean tho...?

Yes, very much so.

[Trollish Summertime]

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.


They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Are you are seriously trying to debate the ethics of a meme?

It's NS. Shit gets debated.

[Gauthier]

Oh, no, you don't get to drop numbers and pretend that you don't mean anything by it. Be honest.

I can just drop numbers and mean inherently nothing, and I am being honest.
It is up to the reader to take from them what they want.

Relative Bodycount Fallacy.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

What makes you think I am anglophone?

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.

Does it make it any better?

Anyways: The Helicopter rides of Pinochet are a meme

They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Literally just a meme bruh.

[Fartsniffage]

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.


They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Are you are seriously trying to debate the ethics of a meme?

Some memes are inherently shitty and reflect badly on those who use them. Is that something you didn't know?

[The Grand World Order]

I'm probably going to carry on as normal. Anyone else up for that?

Probably what people should do in the face of a terrorist attack. If you're not in fear, the 'terrorist' part falls flat, and so does whatever message they wanted to convey in that horrific way.

Ah yes, "If you kill your enemy, they win"

congrats to the Ariana Grande concert and the people on the London Bridge for the big wins

[Proctopeo]

I can just drop numbers and mean inherently nothing, and I am being honest.
It is up to the reader to take from them what they want.

Relative Bodycount Fallacy.

*blows whistle*
Fallacy Fallacy. Minus fifteen yards.

[Ifreann]

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.

Does it make it any better?

They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Literally just a meme bruh.

Oh, well, if it's a meme then that...em...matters somehow?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Does it make it any better?

Literally just a meme bruh.

Oh, well, if it's a meme then that...em...matters somehow?

Bruh, it's just a meme.

Now, about this van... Was it wearing a shemagh, by chance?

[Ifreann]

Oh, well, if it's a meme then that...em...matters somehow?

Bruh, it's just a meme.

I don't understand what you're trying to convey by this.

[Liriena]

It is a big assumption on my part, I will admit. Apologies if I misjudged you there.


They are also something that actually happened. Calling them "a meme" doesn't suddenly make their trivialization okay, specially not when the meme seems to be primarily used, not to ridicule Pinochet a la Springtime for Hitler or like in Downfall memes, but in an endearing way.

Are you are seriously trying to debate the ethics of a meme?

Comedy is not beyond criticism, specially when it reflects a disturbing trivialization of atrocities and an attitude that seems sympathetic towards them. There's a reason, for example, why some jokes about rape are considered funny while others are widely criticized. There's a reason why Mel Brooks thought his own parodies of Nazism were acceptable, but thought La vita è bella wasn't.