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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:02 pm

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm probably going to carry on as normal. Anyone else up for that?

yeah


Whoa now, we can't do that, that's too level headed and reasonable! We need to obviously find some way to pin this on all the Muslims ever and use that pinning to eradicate the entire religion and the ways of life of everyone that ever practices it!

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Nakena wrote:The alternative would be Helicopter rides

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.


It's honestly fucking ridiculous how these people do that and act like it's something normal and reasonable to do. Like, no, these brutal dictators are fucking assholes through and through, and you're basically showing support for them, even if you're acting under the pretense of "oh it's ironic!" No, it's really not. And then some of them also go as far as to hypocritically complain about dictators on the left of the political scale. It's so fucking weird.
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Kanadorika
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Postby Kanadorika » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:02 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean another overrated warmongering blowhard who British voters got fed up with the moment the war ended?

They reelected him six years later.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nakena wrote:The alternative would be Helicopter rides

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

Absolutely. The Holocaust is not something to joke about, Anne Frankly it's offensive when people do.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:03 pm

Kanadorika wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They reelected him six years later.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons


Cromwell is at number 10 and he banned Christmas..... Not sure that list is all that reliable.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:03 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean another overrated warmongering blowhard who British voters got fed up with the moment the war ended?


Wasnt he PM for a time in the cold war?

Yes.
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Postby Trollish Summertime » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:03 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Liriena wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

Absolutely. The Holocaust is not something to joke about, Anne Frankly it's offensive when people do.


Ooh.

I'm cutting myself over your originality and subtle nuance.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:04 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Liriena wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.

And then you realize internet randos think Auschwitz was unironically funny.

It is a kinda funny word, now that I think about it. Sounds almost like what the people at the losing end of a war would say.
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Kanadorika
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Postby Kanadorika » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:04 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:


Cromwell is at number 10 and he banned Christmas..... Not sure that list is all that reliable.

As about as reliable as public opinion can be.
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Neo Balka
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Postby Neo Balka » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:04 pm

Liriena wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
Wasnt he PM for a time in the cold war?

Yes.


Yes, got fed up with after the war ended...

what major war ended in 1951?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Kanadorika wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They reelected him six years later.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons

>Number 1
>Anybody but mai waifu Arturia
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Ambarii wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm probably going to carry on as normal. Anyone else up for that?

I meant what do you propose the government do to prevent further attacks?

Ah.

Ban vans and knives?

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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ambarii wrote:I meant what do you propose the government do to prevent further attacks?

Ah.

Ban vans and knives?

Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ah.

Ban vans and knives?

Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?

No. Ban bridges.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:06 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?

No. Ban bridges.


Ban people. It's the only way.
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Postby Trollish Summertime » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:06 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ah.

Ban vans and knives?

Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?


The government banned "Zombie" knives.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:07 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?

No. Ban bridges.

Just have very large ferries instead.

Trollish Summertime wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?


The government banned "Zombie" knives.

And those knives look scary, at least to a politician, I'd assume.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:07 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:

>Number 1
>Anybody but mai waifu Arturia

I'm personally offended by the fact that Nelson is merely 9th and below John Lennon. What the heck, Britons?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:07 pm

Trollish Summertime wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?


The government banned "Zombie" knives.


But that's just sensible. Zombies are bad enough without them being armed as well.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:08 pm

Ambarii wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm probably going to carry on as normal. Anyone else up for that?

I meant what do you propose the government do to prevent further attacks?

Put a bit of extra effort into that Prevent thing?
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Postby Trollish Summertime » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:08 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Trollish Summertime wrote:
The government banned "Zombie" knives.


But that's just sensible. Zombies are bad enough without them being armed as well.


Most zombies I've met don't have arms. :blink:
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Postby Ambarii » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:09 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Ambarii wrote:I think we can all agree that this attack is awful and a tragedy. Now, what are we going to do to prevent attacks like this from happening again?

(I am not encouraging genocide so don't accuse me of it)

Notice many of the attackers were already on police or intelligence focus? Maybe paying extra attention to them would help.

What are the police going to do? They can only arrest suspects if they have evidence they're planning an attack. Are the police going to monitor them? Well no, because people like you would probably make police state accusations.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:09 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ah.

Ban vans and knives?

Didn't they already ban scary-looking knives?

Yes. But they clearly haven't gone far enough. Melt down all knives. And vans.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:10 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Trollish Summertime wrote:
The government banned "Zombie" knives.


But that's just sensible. Zombies are bad enough without them being armed as well.

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Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:10 pm

Trollish Summertime wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
But that's just sensible. Zombies are bad enough without them being armed as well.


Most zombies I've met don't have arms. :blink:


The only good zombie is a dead zomb........wait.

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Postby Nakena » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:10 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nakena wrote:The alternative would be Helicopter rides

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well say "gas chambers".

I'm becoming increasingly tired of Anglophone randos on the internet trivializing what was a horrifying tool of extermination used by an infamous tyrant to cement his power. You might think Pinochet's brutality is all fun and games from the distant comfort of your homelands, but to many of us South Americans it's about as funny as Auschwitz.


What makes you think I am anglophone?

Anyways: The Helicopter rides of Pinochet are a meme, based on the Caravan of Death who was an Death Squad who moved by Helicopter across Chile. Whether or not Pinochet had people killed by dropping them from Helicopters is another question, but the Helicopter Rides are actually dating back to Roger Trinquier and The Battle of Algiers. Argentina and Uruguay had actual death flights however under their respective Military Dictatorships.

And lastly: "Targeted killings" by Hellfire missiles from drones are already standard practice by various (including US and possibly UK) Government, which is a kinda messy thing prone to cause collateral damage. If you're interested in that topic watch this movie.
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