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Audi's insensitive photo shoot.

Postby Petrolheadia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:10 am

http://auto.dziennik.pl/aktualnosci/art ... ebook.html (Sorry, no sources in English).

To promote the new A5, Audi of Poland decided to take a few advertising shots of it in front of Warsaw's points of interest.

Unfortunately, one of the backgrounds was the Warsaw Uprising Memorial, dedicated to people who fought against the German occupation of Warsaw between 1st August and 2nd October 1944. Combined with Audi being a German brand, this drew noticeable outrage.

According to Audi, the photos were taken by an independent photographer. The company apologized about it on their Facebook page.

What do you think about something like this?

In my opinion, the company should have prevented it. It's quite bad that they just took the photos without any checking what they show.
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Postby Longweather » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:27 am

Why would it provoke outrage? I would have thought that having the two in the same image would be a show of solidarity and cooperation on the private-industry level.
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:29 am

Longweather wrote:Why would it provoke outrage? I would have thought that having the two in the same image would be a show of solidarity and cooperation on the private-industry level.

Judging by what the OP says, they (I think) clearly had no idea what was in the photo.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:31 am

So can I be outraged if a British company uses scenes with American Revolutionary memorials in them?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:32 am

Sovaal wrote:So can I be outraged if a British company uses scenes with American Revolutionary memorials in them?

No because I'd still you you to get over it
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Postby Longweather » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:35 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Longweather wrote:Why would it provoke outrage? I would have thought that having the two in the same image would be a show of solidarity and cooperation on the private-industry level.

Judging by what the OP says, they (I think) clearly had no idea what was in the photo.


Either that or they thought it wasn't a big deal until there was public outcry.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:35 am

Tbh as news such as this one appear day after day, I just think Trump and Duterte were the right choice.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:26 am

Meh. Germany's not the 3rd Reich anymore.

I'm not hugely surprised that some Poles are flipping their shit, though. I've heard other stories about Poles being oversensitive about WWII-related things.

Great Minarchistan wrote:Tbh as news such as this one appear day after day, I just think Trump and Duterte were the right choice.


Implying Trump and his supporters don't get offended over trivial nonsense and overreact to the stupidest little things. :roll:
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:36 am

Eh. To some it could be offensive. The Warsaw Uprising Memorial is a testament to resistance to German control and influence. Audi is German, so it could be argued promoting Audi is promoting German economic interests and German control of the automobile market.
So, it's insensitive to those who view it as such, but it doesn't really affect me. So, to each his own.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:42 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:So can I be outraged if a British company uses scenes with American Revolutionary memorials in them?

No because I'd still you you to get over it

Exactly
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:08 am

They're a car company, not the fucking SS.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:36 am

Proves the point Germany won the war.
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:41 am

Sovaal wrote:So can I be outraged if a British company uses scenes with American Revolutionary memorials in them?


not saying they're right to be outraged but i'm going to have to point out the small problem that the american revolutionary war and wwii are not very comparable

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I'm gonna go ahead and stand opposite of the "act differently because of the country you're from" crowd.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:55 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:Proves the point Germany won the war.


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Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Proves the point Germany won the war.


No matter how much you try to kill Germany, they always come back stronger.


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Postby Impireacht » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:26 pm

It's not insensitive because they're a German company and it's a Polish memorial. Boo hoo, it's a car ffs, not a hitler impersonator. It's cheap and insensitive because they're using a war memorial honouring men who gave their lives to protect others in hopes of gaining publicity and profit. It's sort of like if Ford were to roll their latest minivan into Arlington National Cemetery and take a picture. It's just disrespectful.
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Postby Philjia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:40 pm

Looking at the memorial, why would you use a picture of your car in front of that thing anyway? Even if you didn't know precisely what it was, you probably wouldn't choose to use it in your ad material. Was everyone stoned that day or something?
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:59 pm

Some people get offended, some don't. It's up to the company to decide the best way forward. Clearly in this case they decided that pulling the photo shoot was the most beneficial move

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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:54 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Sovaal wrote:So can I be outraged if a British company uses scenes with American Revolutionary memorials in them?


not saying they're right to be outraged but i'm going to have to point out the small problem that the american revolutionary war and wwii are not very comparable

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I know that. I just find that both situtations are/would be equally stupid.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:02 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Meh. Germany's not the 3rd Reich anymore.

I'm not hugely surprised that some Poles are flipping their shit, though. I've heard other stories about Poles being oversensitive about WWII-related things.

It tends to be common in countries where like 20-odd percent of the people got killed in the war, I hear. Yes, it's kinda dumb... but I think it's also kinda dumb that Audi wouldn't even check something like that.


Regardless, it'll blow over quickly.
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:45 am

This is not insensitive.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:33 am

Philjia wrote:Looking at the memorial, why would you use a picture of your car in front of that thing anyway? Even if you didn't know precisely what it was, you probably wouldn't choose to use it in your ad material. Was everyone stoned that day or something?

They want to associate their car with Polish patriotism, it's like if Audi has their care in front of an American flag.
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Postby Chessmistress » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:52 am

Given the description I fail to see how the photo shoot could be "insensitive".
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Postby Neo Balka » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:05 am

USS Monitor wrote:Meh. Germany's not the 3rd Reich anymore.

I'm not hugely surprised that some Poles are flipping their shit, though. I've heard other stories about Poles being oversensitive about WWII-related things.

Great Minarchistan wrote:Tbh as news such as this one appear day after day, I just think Trump and Duterte were the right choice.


Implying Trump and his supporters don't get offended over trivial nonsense and overreact to the stupidest little things. :roll:


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