Will alt-righters stay alt-right?

[Aelex]

"In comparison"

Tis a Victor Hugo quote, actually.
Just saying.

[United Muscovite Nations]

…The alt-right are very moderate in comparison to what it will inevitably evolve into if current trends continue.

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

First of all, not all of the alt-right is against homosexuals, they hate Muslims, which means, more often than not, they can come to terms with gays and trans.

Secondly, not agreeing with homosexual normalization is moderate; a relatively few countries have normalized it.

[Minoa]

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

First of all, not all of the alt-right is against homosexuals, they hate Muslims, which means, more often than not, they can come to terms with gays and trans.

Secondly, not agreeing with homosexual normalization is moderate; a relatively few countries have normalized it.

Generally, it is the blanket hatred of Muslims that puts me off. I feel it is inappropriate for me to make such brazen assumptions about Muslims without considering the context of the refugee and migrant crisis.

[Napkiraly]

Some will, some wont. Just like how some people were communists in their younger days but now aren't while others remain committed communists. Same goes with plenty of people when it comes to other ideologies. I think their influence and bombastic nature will certainly diminish.

[Napkiraly]

"In comparison"

Tbf this holds true for the far-left. They are still a shadow and pale imitation to what it once was. A lot of politics is actually. We're living in some rather drab times. I want off this ride.

[Austrasien]

First of all, not all of the alt-right is against homosexuals Muslims, they hate Muslims Jews, which means, more often than not, they can come to terms with gays and trans Muslims.

More accurate if we are talking about the hardcore alt-right.

[Saiwania]

Unfortunately the Donald Trump presidency just isn't working out and for that reason, I think the alt-right in the US will be losing major momentum.

Trump is seemingly breaking a lot of campaign promises and the one thing that is keeping the left from victory is the fact that they support a lot of bad policies such as wanting to let in Syrian refugees and focusing on stuff most people won't care about such as racism or Russia. If the Democrats only hammered away on an economic message that is the opposite of failed supply side economics and they really meant it, then they could win by a large margin.

What is going wrong is that Trump's administration is needlessly benefiting Saudi Arabia, is too wedded to fossil fuels and is gutting the EPA, has no interest in more renewable energies, wants to push an asinine budget which takes away almost everything from the poor and will negatively hit many Trump supporters the hardest, wants to advance the AHCA which is proving to be a massive failure in that if implemented, will hurt core Republican constituencies along with everyone else in the US except for the rich.

No, I'm not surprised that Trump's base is losing interest because of what he's doing and it is perhaps set to implode.

[Austrasien]

No, I'm not surprised that Trump's base is losing interest because of what he's doing and it is perhaps set to implode.

Are they?

96 percent of those who supported him in November say they'd do so again today.

The only ones "losing interest" seem to be channers who actually thought Trump would be Hitler 2.0

[Nakena]

The only ones "losing interest" seem to be channers who actually thought Trump would be Hitler 2.0

...and seemingly comitted Alt-Righters, White Nationalists and NatSocs edgelords etc.

[Sanctissima]

At the end of the day, it's a protest movement more than anything.

It won't survive in the long term. Or rather, within the next couple of decades, it won't be nearly as popular as it currently is. People will inevitably move on, since at the end of the day it has no real ideological beliefs aside from opposing the Left.

[Saiwania]

Are they?

It almost certainly would happen if the AHCA was to become law and all the negative effects it is projected to have come to pass. Old people vote the most and if they need to pay $14,000+ on average instead of the ACA's $1,700 to get health care, their full wrath will be unleashed against the GOP, in particular this congress. The ones that don't vote Democrat will stay home next election.

It'd happen if all the cuts to food stamps, medicare, etc. were allowed to get implemented as stipulated in Donald Trump's preferred budget. The US senate finds his budget to be too extreme, so it is dead on arrival. Too many people in congress' constituents are negatively impacted, so they can't approve that without getting killed in their own districts or states.

[Trotskylvania]

Until someone starts to openly advocate for the implementation of labor camps for "undesirables," followed by the genocide of said "undesirables," it is intellectual dishonesty to equate the alt-right to Nazi Germany - through memes or otherwise.

I don't care how you feel about the alt-right, it does not help anyone to start heading down this road of crying wolf. As bad as you think Trump is, there is nothing remotely close to the Holocaust occurring in this country.

The point flew right over your head, and I don't know how I could make it any more obvious.

[Liriena]

I sure hope not, specially since the world already has enough old fascists as it is, and I'd very much rather see that generation die off without successors. Sadly, while I think many will shift back to the center in coming years, if not to the left outright, some are evidently radicalized and dangerous, and it's going to take a lot of efforts to get them away from that scum.

[Trotskylvania]

Tis a Victor Hugo quote, actually.
Just saying.

No, it's from the first paragraph of the The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte, written by Marx in 1852; the title was an allusion to Bonaparte's coup against the Directory, which occurred on 18 Brumaire in the French Revolutionary Calendar.

The full quote is: "Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Caussidière for Danton, Louis Blanc for Robespierre, the Montagne of 1848 to 1851 for the Montagne of 1793 to 1795, the nephew for the uncle. And the same caricature occurs in the circumstances of the second edition of the Eighteenth Brumaire."

[Great Minarchistan]

Most of them are young people, so no. Over the time most people tend to stay somewhere between center-left and right-wing.

[Liriena]

Tis a Victor Hugo quote, actually.
Just saying.

No, it's from the first paragraph of the The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte, written by Marx in 1852; the title was an allusion to Bonaparte's coup against the Directory, which occurred on 18 Brumaire in the French Revolutionary Calendar.

The full quote is: "Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Caussidière for Danton, Louis Blanc for Robespierre, the Montagne of 1848 to 1851 for the Montagne of 1793 to 1795, the nephew for the uncle. And the same caricature occurs in the circumstances of the second edition of the Eighteenth Brumaire."

Love me some good old Karl.

[Imperial Esplanade]

Until someone starts to openly advocate for the implementation of labor camps for "undesirables," followed by the genocide of said "undesirables," it is intellectual dishonesty to equate the alt-right to Nazi Germany - through memes or otherwise.

I don't care how you feel about the alt-right, it does not help anyone to start heading down this road of crying wolf. As bad as you think Trump is, there is nothing remotely close to the Holocaust occurring in this country.

The point flew right over your head, and I don't know how I could make it any more obvious.

Yeah, well memes or text don't come with anything to differentiate sarcasm from seriousness. Since you responded seemingly condescendingly, I should add that I highly doubt you've never been bitten by the "it's sarcasm, stupid!" bug before.

[Torsiedelle]

…The alt-right are very moderate in comparison to what it will inevitably evolve into if current trends continue.

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

I'm MtF and a member of the shadowy "All-trite" apparently, so I hardly care.

Cause

To me, the "alt right" is more satire than serious, and as a force to be reckoned with only exists largely in the minds of virtue signalling SJWs that see Nazis everywhere, including their corn flakes.

Also, this.

[Great Minarchistan]

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

I'm MtF and a member of the shadowy "All-trite" apparently, so I hardly care.

Cause

To me, the "alt right" is more satire than serious, and as a force to be reckoned with only exists largely in the minds of virtue signalling SJWs that see Nazis everywhere, including their corn flakes.

Also, this.

You're the coolest transgender I ever met.

[Aelex]

No, it's from the first paragraph of the The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte, written by Marx in 1852; the title was an allusion to Bonaparte's coup against the Directory, which occurred on 18 Brumaire in the French Revolutionary Calendar.

The full quote is: "Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Caussidière for Danton, Louis Blanc for Robespierre, the Montagne of 1848 to 1851 for the Montagne of 1793 to 1795, the nephew for the uncle. And the same caricature occurs in the circumstances of the second edition of the Eighteenth Brumaire."

Hum, I stand corrected then. I had seen this quote misattributed to Victor Hugo and it always made quite some sense to me given how much of a raging hate-boner the man had for Napoléon III.

[Torsiedelle]

I'm MtF and a member of the shadowy "All-trite" apparently, so I hardly care.

Cause

Also, this.

You're the coolest transgender I ever met.

I'm hardly even that.

I'm a monster! Too poor to get prettied up! Curse this existence! I need more money,
damnit. Maybe I should make a patreon.

[Liriena]

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

I'm MtF and a member of the shadowy "All-trite" apparently, so I hardly care.

Cause

To me, the "alt right" is more satire than serious, and as a force to be reckoned with only exists largely in the minds of virtue signalling SJWs that see Nazis everywhere, including their corn flakes.

Also, this.

Yeah, it's all fun and games until someone takes your "ironic" admiration for dictators and "ironic" white supremacism a bit too seriously and violence happens.

Also, while a lot of "alt-righters" might be "ironic" about it, and just engage in it "for the memes", there are actually serious people among them, ideologues who really, honestly support dictatorship and genocide, and they probably love that they can swell their ranks with "ironic" younglings with a shallow perception of politics.

[Imperial Esplanade]

You're the coolest transgender I ever met.

I'm hardly even that.

I'm a monster! Too poor to get prettied up! Curse this existence! I need more money,
damnit. Maybe I should make a patreon.

This post offended Count Dracula in just about every conceivable way.

[Torsiedelle]

I'm MtF and a member of the shadowy "All-trite" apparently, so I hardly care.

Cause

Also, this.

Yeah, it's all fun and games until someone takes your "ironic" admiration for dictators and "ironic" white supremacism a bit too seriously and violence happens.

Also, while a lot of "alt-righters" might be "ironic" about it, and just engage in it "for the memes", there are actually serious people among them, ideologues who really, honestly support dictatorship and genocide, and they probably love that they can swell their ranks with "ironic" younglings with a shallow perception of politics.

I'm in both spheres to a degree, admittedly.

Who doesn't think that the Alt-Right meme is a great propaganda tool? Alongside being just a fun way to poke at the other side. It's already worked in winning over a large number of youth and disenfranchised leftists and centrists.

That said, I'd say the seriousness and hate its given are arguably part of why its so alluring to the younglings.

[Imperial Esplanade]

I'm hardly even that.

I'm a monster! Too poor to get prettied up! Curse this existence! I need more money,
damnit. Maybe I should make a patreon.

This post offended Count Dracula in just about every conceivable way.

Totally used the wrong image, but it works.