The Manchester Attacks Megathread

[Sjealand]

I don't want you to.

In which case, we're all going to conclude that you are talking out of your arse.

I think that has been true for a couple pages. Its fun to read though

[Aelex]

My mistake, of course boiling people down to basic attributes is individualist policy.

Please point out where exactly I did that in the post you responded to. I know it's easier to grasp as straws than to acknowledge a truth you dislike but at least don't try to be so blatant at doing it. :^)

[Galloism]

The majority of terror attacks in Europe are commited by muslims.

And yet the overwhelming majority of Muslims have never committed a crime.

I'm not sure that's true, or, at least, it depends on your definition of "crime".

I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of everybody has committed a crime at some point, provided you classify "crime" to include "regulatory infractions", like speeding or incorrect disposal of hazardous materials.

[Royal Baronga]

BOOM!
Wait guys we used to colo-
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g-guys im sorry i can't live lik-
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Do you have anything to add other than your disgusting gloating over the deaths of innocents?

You are a weak coward who will permit islam a pass and not stand up for innocent people. you are scum

[Calladan]

I always think it's funny to replace "muslims" with "jews" in my head on these type of threads and see how many people sound like literally Hitler.

And it always makes me curious - if there were two or three bombs that could be proven to have been planted by Jewish men or women, would the people happily calling for the mass deportation of Muslims dare to come out and call for the deportation of all Jews in the UK? Or would no one have the balls to do such a thing for fear of the consequences?

[Liriena]

Really? Convicted criminals?

If you want them to be.

It's a yes or no question.

[Shrilland]

If he was the first to do so then no. But he isn't now is he? Many "refugee" attacks are for ISIL. It sure is a strange pattern. If you don't oppose ISIL, that's fine, but don't try to force Britain to deal with your hateful and evil mindset.

This was not, by definition, a "refugee attack". The culprit was not a refugee, and my opposition to ISIL does not preclude me also opposing the white supremacist narrative.

Nobody here said anything about "white supremecy", but congrats for assuming my race and proving that you are actually racist. The culprit was the child of refugees. Meaning that the threat is still there after the refugees have children. The issue isn't going away and just hiding behind shallow racism isn't going to make it go away as much as you want it to

[Liriena]

Do you have anything to add other than your disgusting gloating over the deaths of innocents?

You are a weak coward who will permit islam a pass and not stand up for innocent people. you are scum

Excuse me, it's Mr. Scum, thank you very much.

[Salandriagado]

I'm sure that has absolutely nothing to do with how only one of those areas has invaded predominantly Muslim countries recently.

Um, you might want to specify your point. Because right now it sounds like you're saying that Europeans had it coming.

Only to people who have no shred of intellectual honesty.

[Royal Baronga]

I always think it's funny to replace "muslims" with "jews" in my head on these type of threads and see how many people sound like literally Hitler.

not an argument

[Salandriagado]

And yet the overwhelming majority of Muslims have never committed a crime.

I'm not sure that's true, or, at least, it depends on your definition of "crime".

I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of everybody has committed a crime at some point, provided you classify "crime" to include "regulatory infractions", like speeding or incorrect disposal of hazardous materials.

I'm defining "crime" to mean "felony offence".

[Ambarii]

Um, you might want to specify your point. Because right now it sounds like you're saying that Europeans had it coming.

Only to people who have no shred of intellectual honesty.

"Intellectual honesty"

What.

[Raermany]

20+ years ago, Korean leader.

It's not terrorism if it wasn't done before n years prior!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoko_Asahara

Asahara/Matsumoto was Japanese.

Not sure where you're getting the goofy idea he was Korean. Perhaps you're confusing him with Hayashi, who was the perpetrator of the attack (hardly a kingpin) and ethnic Korean from Tokyo?

You're about to choose which nuclear facility to work for:

One one, the sign says "last incident: 1995"
on another, the sign says "last incident: TODAY"

pick one

[Salandriagado]

Only to people who have no shred of intellectual honesty.

"Intellectual honesty"

What.

Google it.

[Galloism]

I always think it's funny to replace "muslims" with "jews" in my head on these type of threads and see how many people sound like literally Hitler.

not an argument

It's more of a quip really.

I discovered r/menkampf the other day, and after laughing hysterically for some time, I find it's an interesting intellectual exercise to try out in lots of contexts.

[Galloism]

I'm not sure that's true, or, at least, it depends on your definition of "crime".

I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of everybody has committed a crime at some point, provided you classify "crime" to include "regulatory infractions", like speeding or incorrect disposal of hazardous materials.

I'm defining "crime" to mean "felony offence".

Ah, in that case, if you exclude all misdemeanors, then yeah, you're right.

[Liriena]

This was not, by definition, a "refugee attack". The culprit was not a refugee, and my opposition to ISIL does not preclude me also opposing the white supremacist narrative.

Nobody here said anything about "white supremecy", but congrats for assuming my race and proving that you are actually racist.

Congrats for assuming I was referring to you.

The culprit was the child of refugees. Meaning that the threat is still there after the refugees have children.

So preemptively punish refugees for the crimes their native-born children might commit.

The issue isn't going away and just hiding behind shallow racism isn't going to make it go away as much as you want it to

The issue isn't going to be solved by demonizing an entire religion and all refugees either. You don't stop the radicalization of young Muslim men by ostracizing their entire community.

[Aelex]

I always think it's funny to replace "muslims" with "jews" in my head on these type of threads and see how many people sound like literally Hitler.

Well, Hitler had an hard-on for Islam and quite a good lot of Muslims reciprocated it. Just look at the book sales of Mein Kampf in Bangladesh if you want to have a concrete example.

[Raermany]

Ok, let's drop god: I have a teacake in orbit around this planet right now, it's very delicious and soft.
Prove there's no floating teacake.

More bullshit. You know you are completely wrong on this and continuing to deflect. No evidence exists to prove or disprove teacakes. There are literally libraries full of documented evidence regarding genocides, nationalism and so forth.

Like I said, prove it.

I can't prove a negative, you suck at logic.

[Raermany]

If you want them to be.

It's a yes or no question.

Yes, sure.

I don't really care about Muslims, my man.

[Royal Baronga]

Nobody here said anything about "white supremecy", but congrats for assuming my race and proving that you are actually racist.

Congrats for assuming I was referring to you.

The culprit was the child of refugees. Meaning that the threat is still there after the refugees have children.

So preemptively punish refugees for the crimes their native-born children might commit.

The issue isn't going away and just hiding behind shallow racism isn't going to make it go away as much as you want it to

The issue isn't going to be solved by demonizing an entire religion and all refugees either. You don't stop the radicalization of young Muslim men by ostracizing their entire community.

If you don't have any muslims in your country they can't blow you up at a concert or Vroom Vroom you at nice in France

[Philjia]

My mistake, of course boiling people down to basic attributes is individualist policy.

Please point out where exactly I did that in the post you responded to. I know it's easier to grasp as straws than to acknowledge a truth you dislike but at least don't try to be so blatant at doing it. :^)

You said that islam is incompatible with western society. No nuance, no consideration, just another sweeping statement about a demographic.

[Galloism]

Congrats for assuming I was referring to you.


So preemptively punish refugees for the crimes their native-born children might commit.


The issue isn't going to be solved by demonizing an entire religion and all refugees either. You don't stop the radicalization of young Muslim men by ostracizing their entire community.

If you don't have any muslims in your country they can't blow you up at a concert or Vroom Vroom you at nice in France

You do know you're more likely to be killed by your home furnishings than a terrorist, right?

[Raermany]

Nobody here said anything about "white supremecy", but congrats for assuming my race and proving that you are actually racist.

Congrats for assuming I was referring to you.

The culprit was the child of refugees. Meaning that the threat is still there after the refugees have children.

So preemptively punish refugees for the crimes their native-born children might commit.

The issue isn't going away and just hiding behind shallow racism isn't going to make it go away as much as you want it to

The issue isn't going to be solved by demonizing an entire religion and all refugees either. You don't stop the radicalization of young Muslim men by ostracizing their entire community.

Young Muslim men can radicalize all they want.

In Muslim countries.

[Royal Baronga]

If you don't have any muslims in your country they can't blow you up at a concert or Vroom Vroom you at nice in France

You do know you're more likely to be killed by your home furnishings than a terrorist, right?

Well guys you might die in a car accident so what does it really matter that you get blown up sometimes it don't matta