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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:44 am

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Europeans are white saying white Europeans is a Tautology

So the native Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks with their olive skin tones aren't European. Gotcha.

Also, given that there was a genocide against Muslims in the Balkans (look up Srebrenica), are you saying that is was justified?


Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue May 23, 2017 11:45 am

Aelex wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:islam has been in europe since the ummayed invaision of spain

Muslims had a foothold in Spain, true, and in Sicily too before the Spaniards and Normans drove them out.
Islam, however, had very, very little influence on Western Culture and that is undeniable therefore your argument is rather moot.

Depends if you consider Spanish culture Western.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue May 23, 2017 11:45 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:So the native Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks with their olive skin tones aren't European. Gotcha.

Also, given that there was a genocide against Muslims in the Balkans (look up Srebrenica), are you saying that is was justified?


Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

So what about those born on the European side of Turkey?
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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:46 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

So what about those born on the European side of Turkey?


Those aren't arabs.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 23, 2017 11:46 am

Aelex wrote:
Ifreann wrote:But that is the reason you're saying that Islam is incompatible with the West. You said so yourself.

Where? Please do quote me.

Aelex wrote:Liberals shouldn't be so happy that he is """homegrown""", if anything, it's just another proof of the incompatibility of Islam with the West.


And yet other Muslims, Muslims who logically live in similar circumstances, being that they are immediate family members, aren't bombing anything. But for some reason that doesn't count.

Why are you back with that logical fallacy of your as if it somehow makes the remotest bit of sense to begin with? "Not every muslim bomb shit, therefore Islam isn't the reason some does and thus isn't a problem". This is such an utterly illogical lapse of reasoning and so blatantly stupid I'm actually baffled you're gutsy enough to flaunt it so often.
I wouldn't go accusing people of misrepresenting others' arguments either, if I were you.

Well, if you would stop doing that, I wouldn't need to call you out on it. ;^)

Why do you keep badly paraphrasing my posts and then claim, based on that bad paraphrasing, that I'm making a fallacious argument?
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Postby Sjealand » Tue May 23, 2017 11:46 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:So the native Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks with their olive skin tones aren't European. Gotcha.

Also, given that there was a genocide against Muslims in the Balkans (look up Srebrenica), are you saying that is was justified?


Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

Europeans having to be white makes no sense. Sure my skin is white but that doesnt mean i feel kinship to a Basque. Our skin is the same but our language, culture and religion couldnt be any more different.

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue May 23, 2017 11:46 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:So what about those born on the European side of Turkey?


Those aren't arabs.

And yet many are Muslim.
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Postby UKCS » Tue May 23, 2017 11:47 am

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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:47 am

Sjealand wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

Europeans having to be white makes no sense. Sure my skin is white but that doesnt mean i feel kinship to a Basque. Our skin is the same but our language, culture and religion couldnt be any more different.


I don't care mate.
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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:48 am

Neutraligon wrote:
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Those aren't arabs.

And yet many are Muslim.


Should be deported back to turkmenistan
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Postby Aelex » Tue May 23, 2017 11:48 am

Neutraligon wrote:Depends if you consider Spanish culture Western.

Given the efforts the Spaniards spent in rooting out any Islamic influence from their country and culture once they finished their Reconquista (and how they successfully achieved it), your point fall rather flat.
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Postby Sjealand » Tue May 23, 2017 11:48 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Sjealand wrote:Europeans having to be white makes no sense. Sure my skin is white but that doesnt mean i feel kinship to a Basque. Our skin is the same but our language, culture and religion couldnt be any more different.


I don't care mate.

No of course you don't. You're desperately trying to defend an outdated belief that skin colour indicates who you are and not like, everything else
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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:48 am

Sjealand wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
I don't care mate.

No of course you don't. You're desperately trying to defend an outdated belief


Such as?
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Postby Aelex » Tue May 23, 2017 11:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Aelex wrote:Liberals shouldn't be so happy that he is """homegrown""", if anything, it's just another proof of the incompatibility of Islam with the West.

Proof =/= reason
Why do you keep badly paraphrasing my posts and then claim, based on that bad paraphrasing, that I'm making a fallacious argument?

Pot, I'm not a kettle. :^)
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Tue May 23, 2017 11:50 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:So the native Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks with their olive skin tones aren't European. Gotcha.

Also, given that there was a genocide against Muslims in the Balkans (look up Srebrenica), are you saying that is was justified?


Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.
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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:51 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.


Europe is for native europeans. go back into the desert.
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Postby Senegalboy » Tue May 23, 2017 11:52 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.


im muslim too which country do you live in

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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:52 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Of course they are native to Europe :roll:
Arabians aren't.

Are you saying the bombings in Europe are justified?

But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.


It doesn't matter if you condemn them because your mates will keep at it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue May 23, 2017 11:52 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Europeans are white saying white Europeans is a Tautology

So the native Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks with their olive skin tones aren't European. Gotcha.

Also, given that there was a genocide against Muslims in the Balkans (look up Srebrenica), are you saying that is was justified?


I can already here the reeeees from Spain.

Edit: hear*

I can't spell for shit it seems.
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Postby Gallia- » Tue May 23, 2017 11:54 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.


Europe is for native europeans. go back into the desert.


Do people seriously identify as "European"?

Are Roma supposed to be "European" now?

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Postby Senegalboy » Tue May 23, 2017 11:54 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.


It doesn't matter if you condemn them because your mates will keep at it.


mates ?
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Postby Sjealand » Tue May 23, 2017 11:55 am

Gallia- wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Europe is for native europeans. go back into the desert.


Do people seriously identify as "European"?

Are Roma supposed to be "European" now?

I mean i do, but like a canadian would also see himself as north american

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Tue May 23, 2017 11:55 am

Royal Baronga wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:But they're not white! You said yourself that Europeans, by definition, are white. Mediterranean folk aren't white! If anything, their skin colours are the same as Turks, Lebanese and others from that region.

I'm saying that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide, your anti-Muslim train of thought is that any and all Muslims are 'invaders', and must be fought back, therefore it is reasonable to assume that you think killing Muslims where you find them is fine.

Of course I condemn the bombings. But you probably don't believe me, because I'm a Muslim.


Europe is for native europeans. go back into the desert.

It doesn't matter if you condemn them because your mates will keep at it.

Except that English is the only language I actually know, so how do you expect me to survive in another country? Also, Pakistan isn't really a desert, but nice stereotyping all Muslims as Arabs.

Also, way to avoid my obviously correct assumption that you think killing all Muslims in Europe is perfectly fine.
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Postby Royal Baronga » Tue May 23, 2017 11:55 am

Gallia- wrote:
Royal Baronga wrote:
Europe is for native europeans. go back into the desert.


Do people seriously identify as "European"?

Are Roma supposed to be "European" now?


Gypsies are from India

It doesn't matter if you don't like the label European.
Greeks are native
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 23, 2017 11:55 am

Aelex wrote:
Ifreann wrote:

Proof =/= reason

That you think it is proof is plainly part of why you think that. Unless you're telling me that your belief is irrational and, in your view, only coincidentally aligns with facts and evidence. But I suspect not.
Why do you keep badly paraphrasing my posts and then claim, based on that bad paraphrasing, that I'm making a fallacious argument?

Pot, I'm not a kettle. :^)

*shrug*
You've done exactly that in your previous two posts addressed to me. If you want to pretend that didn't happen, well, it's only an internet forum, I'm sure you don't care what people here think about you.

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