The Problems of Democracy

[Genivaria]

I personally find it funny that the movie has such a following when the director was deliberately trying to smear Heinlein's original book.

If you read the comments section on the various clips, you'll typically find the fans of the book or the movie are two distinct groups. As for Paul Verhoeven, practically all of his American movies are subtlety criticisms of American Culture, so I think that fans such as myself focus on the aesthetics of the movie itself.

As for the 'aesthetics' the guns and armor of the infantry may as well be cardboard because thats what they look like.

[Torrocca]

If you read the comments section on the various clips, you'll typically find the fans of the book or the movie are two distinct groups. As for Paul Verhoeven, practically all of his American movies are subtlety criticisms of American Culture, so I think that fans such as myself focus on the aesthetics of the movie itself.

As for the 'aesthetics' the guns and armor of the infantry may as well be cardboard because thats what they look like.

They're just pre-Imperium of Mankind Imperial Guardsmen

[Genivaria]

As for the 'aesthetics' the guns and armor of the infantry may as well be cardboard because thats what they look like.

They're just pre-Imperium of Mankind Imperial Guardsmen

For real an actual Lasgun would be the best fucking weapon in human history right now.
A directed energy weapon that recharges from light? Fuck yeah!

[Torrocca]

They're just pre-Imperium of Mankind Imperial Guardsmen

For real an actual Lasgun would be the best fucking weapon in human history right now.
A directed energy weapon that recharges from light? Fuck yeah!

The only way I'd ever consider democracy a problem today is if the Emperor was real enough for me to get one of those.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Tbh, there are aspects of the Imperium of Man I admire. The commitment to humanity as a whole and the embracing of religious faith (even if they are wrong).

[Oil exporting People]

As for the 'aesthetics' the guns and armor of the infantry may as well be cardboard because thats what they look like.

I meant in terms of plot and such, but I also do really like the infantry gear in terms of looks and such.

They're just pre-Imperium of Mankind Imperial Guardsmen

Until someone pointed it out to me, I had never thought about the movie like that but in retrospect, it really is basically the Guard vs Tyranids.

[United Muscovite Nations]

As for the 'aesthetics' the guns and armor of the infantry may as well be cardboard because thats what they look like.

I meant in terms of plot and such, but I also do really like the infantry gear in terms of looks and such.

They're just pre-Imperium of Mankind Imperial Guardsmen

Until someone pointed it out to me, I had never thought about the movie like that but in retrospect, it really is basically the Guard vs Tyranids.

That's because 40K is a rip off of dozens of iconic sci-fi stuff, most notably, Starship Troopers (the book) and Dune.

[Conserative Morality]

Tbh, there are aspects of the Imperium of Man I admire. The commitment to humanity as a whole and the embracing of religious faith (even if they are wrong).

The Imperium's in a tough situation. I admire it greatly. But I also think that CIAPHIAS CAIN, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM is its epitome.

[Conserative Morality]

That's because 40K is a rip off of dozens of iconic sci-fi stuff, most notably, Starship Troopers (the book) and Dune.

Great artists steal and all that jazz.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Tbh, there are aspects of the Imperium of Man I admire. The commitment to humanity as a whole and the embracing of religious faith (even if they are wrong).

The Imperium's in a tough situation. I admire it greatly. But I also think that CIAPHIAS CAIN, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM is its epitome.

The fact that the Imperial Guard basically relies on sheer willpower and cooperation to stop the enemies of mankind is what really makes them the best faction in the game, and that's what I really admire about them; while 40K is undoubtedly a dystopia, humanity's redeeming qualities make it likable.

[Ambarii]

Well it seems this discussion has come to a dead end...

[Tengoto]

Problems arise when the person in power refuses to give it up.

Indeed, not every leader is a Cincinnatus, some are Caesar's.

It's flawed to think that holding onto power is automatically bad. The comparison above in reality is pure republic propaganda. The fact of the matter is that if Caesar was as bad as republic propaganda tries to make him out to be he would not have been assassinated the way he did.

The primary reason Caesar was assassinated was due to the fact that most of his political enemies were pardoned. If Caesar was as bad as propaganda would make him out to be he would have used proscription against his political enemies when he took power and a large conspiracy would either not have happened or would have so little power behind it that carrying out an assassination would have been considered far too dangerous. Really Caesar was killed mainly because the senators felt they could get away with it. Karma worked quickly however because the senators soon got the far far less benevolent Augustus.

[Conserative Morality]

Indeed, not every leader is a Cincinnatus, some are Caesar's.

It's flawed to think that holding onto power is automatically bad. The comparison above in reality is pure republic propaganda. The fact of the matter is that if Caesar was as bad as republic propaganda tries to make him out to be he would not have been assassinated the way he did.

The primary reason Caesar was assassinated was due to the fact that most of his political enemies were pardoned. If Caesar was as bad as propaganda would make him out to be he would have used proscription against his political enemies when he took power and a large conspiracy would either not have happened or would have so little power behind it that carrying out an assassination would have been considered far too dangerous. Really Caesar was killed mainly because the senators felt they could get away with it. Karma worked quickly however because the senators soon got the far far less benevolent Augustus.

Daily reminder that Caesar was a savior of the republic, not an enemy of it, and it was the optimates who conspired against him who were the true enemies of the republic

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Thoughts on Authoritarian Populist Democracy?

Have fun on your quick ride off to dictatorship bud. I'll be laughing it up in my quasi-elected oligarchy.

It's flawed to think that holding onto power is automatically bad. The comparison above in reality is pure republic propaganda. The fact of the matter is that if Caesar was as bad as republic propaganda tries to make him out to be he would not have been assassinated the way he did.

The primary reason Caesar was assassinated was due to the fact that most of his political enemies were pardoned. If Caesar was as bad as propaganda would make him out to be he would have used proscription against his political enemies when he took power and a large conspiracy would either not have happened or would have so little power behind it that carrying out an assassination would have been considered far too dangerous. Really Caesar was killed mainly because the senators felt they could get away with it. Karma worked quickly however because the senators soon got the far far less benevolent Augustus.

Daily reminder that Caesar was a savior of the republic, not an enemy of it, and it was the optimates who conspired against him who were the true enemies of the republic

Indeed. He was trying to reform it and keep it around. Augustus just killed everyone who couldn't be bought off and kept a modified version of the old improv shit in place, while the senators just wanted to get old and fat off war loot and taxes and leave everything like it was 509 BC.

[The East Marches II]

It's flawed to think that holding onto power is automatically bad. The comparison above in reality is pure republic propaganda. The fact of the matter is that if Caesar was as bad as republic propaganda tries to make him out to be he would not have been assassinated the way he did.

The primary reason Caesar was assassinated was due to the fact that most of his political enemies were pardoned. If Caesar was as bad as propaganda would make him out to be he would have used proscription against his political enemies when he took power and a large conspiracy would either not have happened or would have so little power behind it that carrying out an assassination would have been considered far too dangerous. Really Caesar was killed mainly because the senators felt they could get away with it. Karma worked quickly however because the senators soon got the far far less benevolent Augustus.

Daily reminder that Caesar was a savior of the republic, not an enemy of it, and it was the optimates who conspired against him who were the true enemies of the republic

Daily Reminder: Caesar was a traitor, a Marian and the Queen of Bithynia

He got what he had coming to him.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Daily reminder that Caesar was a savior of the republic, not an enemy of it, and it was the optimates who conspired against him who were the true enemies of the republic

Daily Reminder: Caesar was a traitor, a Marian and the Queen of Bithynia

He got what he had coming to him.

The Republic had serious problems, though. I'd rather find some way to fix them rather than cope with them if I were around in those times.

[Conserative Morality]

Daily Reminder: Caesar was a traitor, a Marian and the Queen of Bithynia

He got what he had coming to him.

Homophobia? Not cool, TEM, not cool. What crazy kinky stuff Caesar got up to in his alone time is his business and that of his troops' bawdy songs only, NOT YOUR'S

[The East Marches II]

Daily Reminder: Caesar was a traitor, a Marian and the Queen of Bithynia

He got what he had coming to him.

The Republic had serious problems, though. I'd rather find some way to fix them rather than cope with them if I were around in those times.

The only problem it had was Sulla had died and wasn't around to give old Caesar the Marian treatment

[The East Marches II]

Daily Reminder: Caesar was a traitor, a Marian and the Queen of Bithynia

He got what he had coming to him.

Homophobia? Not cool, TEM, not cool. What crazy kinky stuff Caesar got up to in his alone time is his business and that of his troops' bawdy songs only, NOT YOUR'S

>Caesar wasn't a male gold digger

Caeser couldn't even use his degeneracy to make bank. Sulla is the only acceptable Roman homosexual.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

The Republic had serious problems, though. I'd rather find some way to fix them rather than cope with them if I were around in those times.

The only problem it had was Sulla had died and wasn't around to give old Caesar the Marian treatment

I guess chasing Rebellius around the provinces is fun but it gets tiring eventually, even for me. And trust me it is very fun to run down the rebel slaves and watch them wail, rout, and get smashed into the dirt by your horsemen.

[The East Marches II]

The only problem it had was Sulla had died and wasn't around to give old Caesar the Marian treatment

I guess chasing Rebellius around the provinces is fun but it gets tiring eventually, even for me. And trust me it is very fun to run down the rebel slaves and watch them wail, rout, and get smashed into the dirt by your horsemen.

I never get tired of crushing rebel scum

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I guess chasing Rebellius around the provinces is fun but it gets tiring eventually, even for me. And trust me it is very fun to run down the rebel slaves and watch them wail, rout, and get smashed into the dirt by your horsemen.

I never get tired of crushing rebel scum

I have to sleep unfortunately, so I will leave killing the rebel slaves up to you.

[The East Marches II]

I never get tired of crushing rebel scum

I have to sleep unfortunately, so I will leave killing the rebel slaves up to you.

Thats 5 denarii a cross I'm putting up, you can reimburse me in the morning.

[Genivaria]

The only problem it had was Sulla had died and wasn't around to give old Caesar the Marian treatment

I guess chasing Rebellius around the provinces is fun but it gets tiring eventually, even for me. And trust me it is very fun to run down the rebel slaves and watch them wail, rout, and get smashed into the dirt by your horsemen.

We're talking about Total War right now aren't we?

[The East Marches II]

I guess chasing Rebellius around the provinces is fun but it gets tiring eventually, even for me. And trust me it is very fun to run down the rebel slaves and watch them wail, rout, and get smashed into the dirt by your horsemen.

We're talking about Total War right now aren't we?

Yes my man