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by United Muscovite Nations » Fri May 19, 2017 1:00 pm
by Aclion » Fri May 19, 2017 1:06 pm
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:TBH, these comments and jokes are absolutely brilliant. I think the Norse one and the Australian one were my favorites.
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri May 19, 2017 1:09 pm
Aclion wrote:TURTLESHROOM II wrote:TBH, these comments and jokes are absolutely brilliant. I think the Norse one and the Australian one were my favorites.
The best joke in this thread in the one where OP claimed Antarctica was a inhospitable and frozen wasteland until now, while the article he linked is about the increased growth rate of existing moss.
by USS Monitor » Fri May 19, 2017 1:10 pm
Jamzmania wrote:Apparently, thanks to global warming, vast sums of land will now be much more habitable and arable. Thanks global warming!
by Thermodolia » Fri May 19, 2017 1:11 pm
USS Monitor wrote:Jamzmania wrote:Apparently, thanks to global warming, vast sums of land will now be much more habitable and arable. Thanks global warming!
And other land -- land that currently has people living in it, land where people have invested a lot of time and money into building up infrastructure -- will become uninhabitable.
by Imperializt Russia » Fri May 19, 2017 1:13 pm
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:Before anyone pounces on me, let me state my position: climate change is a fact and the earth is warming. The hoax is that it's mostly our fault and that we should empower the government to control every inch of our consumption to fix it.
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum/
Take a government resource from three years back over your blog and Daily Mail. While sea ice is melting somewhat in the Arctic, Antarctica is, by comparison, doing just fine. The record lows in its summer are offset entirely by wintertime. Its sea ice levels since then have been mostly average. The Hole In the Ozone Layer has also closed, thanks to environmental responsibility (and needless government intervention, the Free Market would have ended CFCs itself once the damage got out).
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:When Republicans say that anthropogenic climatechange is a hoax, they don't mean that climate change itself is a hoax.
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:They believe that the Chicken Little heralds among us, who say the world will end every X years unless we give government control over every inch of our consumption and crush our freedoms.
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:IF climate change is our fault, the government is not a solution. However, since it is not our fault, we can only do what we can to migitate rising temperatures and seas until the earth returns to the global cooling cycle that Chicken Little heralds said would start the next Ice Age.
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:Don't forget that CO2 is VERY good for plants, and that there are now more trees in the USA than there were in 1900 AD, and hundreds of billions more trees across the earth than there were fifty years ago.
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:I will NEVER trust climate alarmists. They've said the world will end every few years since Al Gore began his career as an oracle, and remember, almost all the ringleaders of AGCC fly in jumbo jets, drive motercades of limousines, and live in beachfront mansions. Al Gore, Obama, and the other alarmists pollute more than I will in my lifetime.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by USS Monitor » Fri May 19, 2017 1:17 pm
by Imperializt Russia » Fri May 19, 2017 1:19 pm
Dytarma wrote:Iceland-Greenland Union wrote:
Also, as the Earth get's warmer, ice will melt, causing some arable land to go underwater. Also, stuff expands as it gets warmer, which will make even more land go underwater.
That's not the case with water. As water freezes, it expands, so if ice melts, it won't expand, there will just be more water.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Gig em Aggies » Fri May 19, 2017 1:19 pm
Geological history and palaeontology
More than 170 million years ago, Antarctica was part of the supercontinent Gondwana. Over time, Gondwana gradually broke apart and Antarctica as we know it today was formed around 25 million years ago. Antarctica was not always cold, dry, and covered in ice sheets. At a number of points in its long history, it was farther north, experienced a tropical or temperate climate, was covered in forests, and inhabited by various ancient life forms.
Palaeozoic era (540–250 Ma)
During the Cambrian period, Gondwana had a mild climate. West Antarctica was partially in the Northern Hemisphere, and during this period large amounts of sandstones, limestones and shales were deposited. East Antarctica was at the equator, where sea floor invertebrates and trilobites flourished in the tropical seas. By the start of the Devonian period (416 Ma), Gondwana was in more southern latitudes and the climate was cooler, though fossils of land plants are known from this time. Sand and silts were laid down in what is now the Ellsworth, Horlick and Pensacola Mountains. Glaciation began at the end of the Devonian period (360 Ma), as Gondwana became centred on the South Pole and the climate cooled, though flora remained. During the Permian period, the land became dominated by seed plants such as Glossopteris, a pteridosperm which grew in swamps. Over time these swamps became deposits of coal in the Transantarctic Mountains. Towards the end of the Permian period, continued warming led to a dry, hot climate over much of Gondwana.[49]
Mesozoic era (250–66 Ma)
As a result of continued warming, the polar ice caps melted and much of Gondwana became a desert. In Eastern Antarctica, seed ferns or pteridosperms became abundant and large amounts of sandstone and shale were laid down at this time. Synapsids, commonly known as "mammal-like reptiles", were common in Antarctica during the Early Triassic and included forms such as Lystrosaurus. The Antarctic Peninsula began to form during the Jurassic period (206–146 Ma), and islands gradually rose out of the ocean. Ginkgo trees, conifers, bennettites, horsetails, ferns and cycads were plentiful during this period. In West Antarctica, coniferous forests dominated through the entire Cretaceous period (146–66 Ma), though southern beech became more prominent towards the end of this period. Ammonites were common in the seas around Antarctica, and dinosaurs were also present, though only three Antarctic dinosaur genera (Cryolophosaurus and Glacialisaurus, from the Hanson Formation,[50] and Antarctopelta) have been described to date.[51] It was during this era that Gondwana began to break up.
However, there is some evidence of antarctic marine glaciation during the Cretaceous period.[52]
Gondwana breakup (160–23 Ma)
The cooling of Antarctica occurred stepwise, as the continental spread changed the oceanic currents from longitudinal equator-to-pole temperature-equalising currents to latitudinal currents that preserved and accentuated latitude temperature differences.
Africa separated from Antarctica in the Jurassic, around 160 Ma, followed by the Indian subcontinent in the early Cretaceous (about 125 Ma). By the end of the Cretaceous, about 66 Ma, Antarctica (then connected to Australia) still had a subtropical climate and flora, complete with a marsupial fauna.[53] In the Eocene epoch, about 40 Ma Australia-New Guinea separated from Antarctica, so that latitudinal currents could isolate Antarctica from Australia, and the first ice began to appear. During the Eocene–Oligocene extinction event about 34 million years ago, CO2 levels have been found to be about 760 ppm[54] and had been decreasing from earlier levels in the thousands of ppm.
Around 23 Ma, the Drake Passage opened between Antarctica and South America, resulting in the Antarctic Circumpolar Current that completely isolated the continent. Models of the changes suggest that declining CO2 levels became more important.[55] The ice began to spread, replacing the forests that then covered the continent.
Neogene Period (23–0.05 Ma)
Since about 15 Ma, the continent has been mostly covered with ice
by Imperializt Russia » Fri May 19, 2017 1:19 pm
Aclion wrote:TURTLESHROOM II wrote:TBH, these comments and jokes are absolutely brilliant. I think the Norse one and the Australian one were my favorites.
The best joke in this thread in the one where OP claimed Antarctica was a inhospitable and frozen wasteland until now, while the article he linked is about the increased growth rate of existing moss.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Harkback Union » Fri May 19, 2017 1:20 pm
by Sareva » Fri May 19, 2017 1:22 pm
Is this a good thing?: Depends
Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."
by Gig em Aggies » Fri May 19, 2017 1:22 pm
New haven america wrote:Jamzmania wrote:Apparently, thanks to global warming, vast sums of land will now be much more habitable and arable. Thanks global warming!
Actually, a lot (If not most) of Antarctica is below sea level, so if the ice melts, it'll turn from a continent into an archipelago, so not much land would actually be gained.
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri May 19, 2017 1:22 pm
Gig em Aggies wrote:DARGLED wrote:You are factually incorrect.
true look at this wiki articleGeological history and palaeontology
More than 170 million years ago, Antarctica was part of the supercontinent Gondwana. Over time, Gondwana gradually broke apart and Antarctica as we know it today was formed around 25 million years ago. Antarctica was not always cold, dry, and covered in ice sheets. At a number of points in its long history, it was farther north, experienced a tropical or temperate climate, was covered in forests, and inhabited by various ancient life forms.
Palaeozoic era (540–250 Ma)
During the Cambrian period, Gondwana had a mild climate. West Antarctica was partially in the Northern Hemisphere, and during this period large amounts of sandstones, limestones and shales were deposited. East Antarctica was at the equator, where sea floor invertebrates and trilobites flourished in the tropical seas. By the start of the Devonian period (416 Ma), Gondwana was in more southern latitudes and the climate was cooler, though fossils of land plants are known from this time. Sand and silts were laid down in what is now the Ellsworth, Horlick and Pensacola Mountains. Glaciation began at the end of the Devonian period (360 Ma), as Gondwana became centred on the South Pole and the climate cooled, though flora remained. During the Permian period, the land became dominated by seed plants such as Glossopteris, a pteridosperm which grew in swamps. Over time these swamps became deposits of coal in the Transantarctic Mountains. Towards the end of the Permian period, continued warming led to a dry, hot climate over much of Gondwana.[49]
Mesozoic era (250–66 Ma)
As a result of continued warming, the polar ice caps melted and much of Gondwana became a desert. In Eastern Antarctica, seed ferns or pteridosperms became abundant and large amounts of sandstone and shale were laid down at this time. Synapsids, commonly known as "mammal-like reptiles", were common in Antarctica during the Early Triassic and included forms such as Lystrosaurus. The Antarctic Peninsula began to form during the Jurassic period (206–146 Ma), and islands gradually rose out of the ocean. Ginkgo trees, conifers, bennettites, horsetails, ferns and cycads were plentiful during this period. In West Antarctica, coniferous forests dominated through the entire Cretaceous period (146–66 Ma), though southern beech became more prominent towards the end of this period. Ammonites were common in the seas around Antarctica, and dinosaurs were also present, though only three Antarctic dinosaur genera (Cryolophosaurus and Glacialisaurus, from the Hanson Formation,[50] and Antarctopelta) have been described to date.[51] It was during this era that Gondwana began to break up.
However, there is some evidence of antarctic marine glaciation during the Cretaceous period.[52]
Gondwana breakup (160–23 Ma)
The cooling of Antarctica occurred stepwise, as the continental spread changed the oceanic currents from longitudinal equator-to-pole temperature-equalising currents to latitudinal currents that preserved and accentuated latitude temperature differences.
Africa separated from Antarctica in the Jurassic, around 160 Ma, followed by the Indian subcontinent in the early Cretaceous (about 125 Ma). By the end of the Cretaceous, about 66 Ma, Antarctica (then connected to Australia) still had a subtropical climate and flora, complete with a marsupial fauna.[53] In the Eocene epoch, about 40 Ma Australia-New Guinea separated from Antarctica, so that latitudinal currents could isolate Antarctica from Australia, and the first ice began to appear. During the Eocene–Oligocene extinction event about 34 million years ago, CO2 levels have been found to be about 760 ppm[54] and had been decreasing from earlier levels in the thousands of ppm.
Around 23 Ma, the Drake Passage opened between Antarctica and South America, resulting in the Antarctic Circumpolar Current that completely isolated the continent. Models of the changes suggest that declining CO2 levels became more important.[55] The ice began to spread, replacing the forests that then covered the continent.
Neogene Period (23–0.05 Ma)
Since about 15 Ma, the continent has been mostly covered with ice
by The Blaatschapen » Fri May 19, 2017 1:23 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Jesus Christ.
by Casmaru » Fri May 19, 2017 1:23 pm
Saiwania wrote:Should we permanently settle Antarctica like we have for the other continents?
by Gig em Aggies » Fri May 19, 2017 1:27 pm
just because its not recorded history doesn't mean it doesn't countUnited Muscovite Nations wrote:Gig em Aggies wrote:true look at this wiki articleGeological history and palaeontology
More than 170 million years ago, Antarctica was part of the supercontinent Gondwana. Over time, Gondwana gradually broke apart and Antarctica as we know it today was formed around 25 million years ago. Antarctica was not always cold, dry, and covered in ice sheets. At a number of points in its long history, it was farther north, experienced a tropical or temperate climate, was covered in forests, and inhabited by various ancient life forms.
Palaeozoic era (540–250 Ma)
During the Cambrian period, Gondwana had a mild climate. West Antarctica was partially in the Northern Hemisphere, and during this period large amounts of sandstones, limestones and shales were deposited. East Antarctica was at the equator, where sea floor invertebrates and trilobites flourished in the tropical seas. By the start of the Devonian period (416 Ma), Gondwana was in more southern latitudes and the climate was cooler, though fossils of land plants are known from this time. Sand and silts were laid down in what is now the Ellsworth, Horlick and Pensacola Mountains. Glaciation began at the end of the Devonian period (360 Ma), as Gondwana became centred on the South Pole and the climate cooled, though flora remained. During the Permian period, the land became dominated by seed plants such as Glossopteris, a pteridosperm which grew in swamps. Over time these swamps became deposits of coal in the Transantarctic Mountains. Towards the end of the Permian period, continued warming led to a dry, hot climate over much of Gondwana.[49]
Mesozoic era (250–66 Ma)
As a result of continued warming, the polar ice caps melted and much of Gondwana became a desert. In Eastern Antarctica, seed ferns or pteridosperms became abundant and large amounts of sandstone and shale were laid down at this time. Synapsids, commonly known as "mammal-like reptiles", were common in Antarctica during the Early Triassic and included forms such as Lystrosaurus. The Antarctic Peninsula began to form during the Jurassic period (206–146 Ma), and islands gradually rose out of the ocean. Ginkgo trees, conifers, bennettites, horsetails, ferns and cycads were plentiful during this period. In West Antarctica, coniferous forests dominated through the entire Cretaceous period (146–66 Ma), though southern beech became more prominent towards the end of this period. Ammonites were common in the seas around Antarctica, and dinosaurs were also present, though only three Antarctic dinosaur genera (Cryolophosaurus and Glacialisaurus, from the Hanson Formation,[50] and Antarctopelta) have been described to date.[51] It was during this era that Gondwana began to break up.
However, there is some evidence of antarctic marine glaciation during the Cretaceous period.[52]
Gondwana breakup (160–23 Ma)
The cooling of Antarctica occurred stepwise, as the continental spread changed the oceanic currents from longitudinal equator-to-pole temperature-equalising currents to latitudinal currents that preserved and accentuated latitude temperature differences.
Africa separated from Antarctica in the Jurassic, around 160 Ma, followed by the Indian subcontinent in the early Cretaceous (about 125 Ma). By the end of the Cretaceous, about 66 Ma, Antarctica (then connected to Australia) still had a subtropical climate and flora, complete with a marsupial fauna.[53] In the Eocene epoch, about 40 Ma Australia-New Guinea separated from Antarctica, so that latitudinal currents could isolate Antarctica from Australia, and the first ice began to appear. During the Eocene–Oligocene extinction event about 34 million years ago, CO2 levels have been found to be about 760 ppm[54] and had been decreasing from earlier levels in the thousands of ppm.
Around 23 Ma, the Drake Passage opened between Antarctica and South America, resulting in the Antarctic Circumpolar Current that completely isolated the continent. Models of the changes suggest that declining CO2 levels became more important.[55] The ice began to spread, replacing the forests that then covered the continent.
Neogene Period (23–0.05 Ma)
Since about 15 Ma, the continent has been mostly covered with ice
None of that is recorded history.
by Aclion » Fri May 19, 2017 1:28 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Aclion wrote:The best joke in this thread in the one where OP claimed Antarctica was a inhospitable and frozen wasteland until now, while the article he linked is about the increased growth rate of existing moss.
The fact that only moss grows there is generally evidence that an area is inhospitable.
New haven america wrote:Jamzmania wrote:Apparently, thanks to global warming, vast sums of land will now be much more habitable and arable. Thanks global warming!
Actually, a lot (If not most) of Antarctica is below sea level, so if the ice melts, it'll turn from a continent into an archipelago, so not much land would actually be gained.
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri May 19, 2017 1:30 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Fri May 19, 2017 1:32 pm
Aclion wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:The fact that only moss grows there is generally evidence that an area is inhospitable.
But not only moss grows there. Nearly all of the antarctic inland is an ice shelf, with no plant life, but the peninsula that these articles are about are home to ferns, grasses and even flowering plants.
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