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Sweden: Assange not wanted for rape anymore

Postby Risottia » Fri May 19, 2017 4:03 am

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

Swedish prosecution is dropping the rape charges against Assange, on the grounds that they are unable to arrange the trial.

Which means he can leave the Ecuadorean Embassy without fear of being arrested and extradited to the US... NOT! The Met still want him for failing to surrender to a court. Of course rule out the possibility that they're trying as hard as they can to obey the orders coming from the other side of the pond. By the way, the UK authorities have failed so far to confirm or deny that they have received an extradition request from the US: still, with Sessions stating that Assange's arrest is still a priority...

Any thoughts? A history of fake prosecution? A history of successful evasion of fair trial?
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Postby Bill Cosby Island » Fri May 19, 2017 4:24 am

Good luck Assange!

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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri May 19, 2017 4:37 am

Risottia wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

Swedish prosecution is dropping the rape charges against Assange, on the grounds that they are unable to arrange the trial.

Which means he can leave the Ecuadorean Embassy without fear of being arrested and extradited to the US... NOT! The Met still want him for failing to surrender to a court. Of course rule out the possibility that they're trying as hard as they can to obey the orders coming from the other side of the pond. By the way, the UK authorities have failed so far to confirm or deny that they have received an extradition request from the US: still, with Sessions stating that Assange's arrest is still a priority...

Any thoughts? A history of fake prosecution? A history of successful evasion of fair trial?


Well, that sucks.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri May 19, 2017 5:12 am

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Postby New Pantuxia » Fri May 19, 2017 5:13 am

A great day for internet privacy and freedom.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri May 19, 2017 5:13 am

I don't care if the Ecuadorian embassy is considered sacrosanct, I'd of had the UK's police drag Assange out regardless. The great Andrew Jackson had secessionists from South Carolina threaten to secede one time, but Jackson didn't have none of that. He outright told them that he'd come down there personally to hang them for treason unless they relented and they did. A similar attitude needs to be adopted to situations such as this. It would swiftly put an end to any impasse.
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri May 19, 2017 5:18 am

I really have no opinion except to wonder if equador will kick him out.
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Postby New Pantuxia » Fri May 19, 2017 5:19 am

Saiwania wrote:I don't care if the Ecuadorian embassy is considered sacrosanct, I'd of had the UK's police drag Assange out regardless. The great Andrew Jackson had secessionists from South Carolina threaten to secede one time, but Jackson didn't have none of that. He outright told them that he'd come down there personally to hang them for treason unless they relented and they did. A similar attitude needs to be adopted to situations such as this. It would swiftly put an end to any impasse.

Why?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 19, 2017 5:19 am

New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.


Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.
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Postby New Pantuxia » Fri May 19, 2017 5:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.


Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.

Prove that Assange raped someone.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 19, 2017 5:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.


Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.

Getting a foreign government to house you in its embassy helps.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri May 19, 2017 5:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.


Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.


To be fair, he wasn't convicted. Hiding from the court though is suspect -- if he did, in fact, commit those rapes, he deserves to rot in a cell.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri May 19, 2017 5:21 am

New Pantuxia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.

Prove that Assange raped someone.


That is the purpose of a trial, something he went great lengths to avoid. So most assume guilt.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 19, 2017 5:21 am

New Pantuxia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.

Prove that Assange raped someone.


Prove it was all a ruse to get him extradited to the US.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri May 19, 2017 5:22 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.


To be fair, he wasn't convicted. Hiding from the court though is suspect -- if he did, in fact, commit those rapes, he deserves to rot in a cell.


Uncle Sam would have had first dibs right?

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Postby New Pantuxia » Fri May 19, 2017 5:22 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:Prove that Assange raped someone.


Prove it was all a ruse to get him extradited to the US.

Yeah no, that's a logical fallacy.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 19, 2017 5:22 am

New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.

How is it?
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri May 19, 2017 5:23 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:Prove that Assange raped someone.


Prove it was all a ruse to get him extradited to the US.


My government has been braying for his blood for a long time. I don't see how that is hard conclusion to come to when we almost violated diplomatic rules to get him.

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Postby New Pantuxia » Fri May 19, 2017 5:24 am

Ifreann wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.

How is it?

Assange defends those things.
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Postby Calladan » Fri May 19, 2017 5:24 am

Saiwania wrote:I don't care if the Ecuadorian embassy is considered sacrosanct, I'd of had the UK's police drag Assange out regardless. The great Andrew Jackson had secessionists from South Carolina threaten to secede one time, but Jackson didn't have none of that. He outright told them that he'd come down there personally to hang them for treason unless they relented and they did. A similar attitude needs to be adopted to situations such as this. It would swiftly put an end to any impasse.


Huh. So if the UK suspects ANYONE from ANY COUNTRY may have committed a crime, they should be free to go after them ANYWHERE in the world, regardless of where they are? Regardless of international laws and treaties? You don't think other countries might just find this problematic?
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Postby Shrilland » Fri May 19, 2017 5:24 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Pantuxia wrote:A great day for internet privacy and freedom.


Remember, you can get away with rape if you get the internet to lionise you.


Source for that bait?

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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri May 19, 2017 5:26 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
To be fair, he wasn't convicted. Hiding from the court though is suspect -- if he did, in fact, commit those rapes, he deserves to rot in a cell.


Uncle Sam would have had first dibs right?


Be hard to extradite him if he was currently undergoing trial and investigation in Sweden. It doesn't mean the US doesn't want him, but I'm not one for conspiracy theories.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri May 19, 2017 5:27 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Uncle Sam would have had first dibs right?


Be hard to extradite him if he was currently undergoing trial and investigation in Sweden. It doesn't mean the US doesn't want him, but I'm not one for conspiracy theories.


I was thinking in Britain at the moment. I don't exactly remember the run up or that chain of events. My thought was because we are John Bull's best pals, we get first crack.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 19, 2017 5:29 am

New Pantuxia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How is it?

Assange defends those things.

Supposing that's true, so what? He could have still done that if he'd gone to Sweden and faced questioning. He'd probably still have been able to do those things from a Swedish prison.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri May 19, 2017 5:31 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Be hard to extradite him if he was currently undergoing trial and investigation in Sweden. It doesn't mean the US doesn't want him, but I'm not one for conspiracy theories.


I was thinking in Britain at the moment. I don't exactly remember the run up or that chain of events. My thought was because we are John Bull's best pals, we get first crack.


In that case, he's hurt his chances. Be a show down between the two over extradition -- but now that Sweden has dropped the charges, if the US has a request for him to be extradited, he'll be fucked the moment he leaves. They should've moved to hold the hearing of him in-absentia ruling on extenuating circumstances.

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