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Postby Risottia » Thu May 18, 2017 11:46 am

Stalgard wrote:
Risottia wrote:I love how you're assuming that I'm assuming you are some insane nazi for no reason.
If you think you're the object of baseless hate, please file a report in Moderation.
Also, exactly my point. A name hardly proves anything. Just like a car crashing into pedestrians hardly proves Islamic terrorism. Glad you got to that conclusion on your own.

for no reason? i am being constantly attacked for this whole discussion.
and my point is that we now his data so we actually can find if he had any affilation with terrorist organisations since it is still a possibility. until we find anything or nothing this possibility still exists

also i just heard rumor about another accident of this sort in staten island. RUMOR

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Postby Stalgard » Thu May 18, 2017 11:51 am

We've had that data from page 1. You just didn't bother to read it.

and what have we done so far with it?
nothing. i am only one to suggest to use it to find out the truth.
still searching tho.

also staten island
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man ... -1.2679807
i dont know whats that link but still have it
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Postby Edding » Thu May 18, 2017 11:54 am


Best scrap that- it's from mid-2016
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu May 18, 2017 11:57 am

Stalgard wrote:
Risottia wrote:I love how you're assuming that I'm assuming you are some insane nazi for no reason.
If you think you're the object of baseless hate, please file a report in Moderation.
Also, exactly my point. A name hardly proves anything. Just like a car crashing into pedestrians hardly proves Islamic terrorism. Glad you got to that conclusion on your own.

for no reason? i am being constantly attacked for this whole discussion.
and my point is that we now his data so we actually can find if he had any affilation with terrorist organisations since it is still a possibility. until we find anything or nothing this possibility still exists

also i just heard rumor about another accident of this sort in staten island. RUMOR

There are two ways to look at this: a legal side and an argumentative side.
If we look at it from a legal angle, you should provide the evidence for him being a part of a terrorist organisation, since you're the one making the claim.
From an argumentative standpoint, you should provide the evidence for him being a part of a terrorist organisation, since you're the one making the claim.
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Postby Stalgard » Thu May 18, 2017 11:58 am

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 18, 2017 11:58 am

Ruskov wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In 2015 there were 35,092 deaths on America's roads. That's a rate of 96 a day, or 2 a day in almost every state.

I bring this up, because I wonder if all there are people out there who jump to blame Muslims a hundred time a day.

Probably because Muslims, extremists to be precise, are behind most of the recent Car Ramming attacks.

You cant really blame someone for thinking a Muslim was behind the wheel.

In fact I can. A handful of car crashes have turned out to be a terrorist deliberately trying to kill people. A handful out of thousands. When there is a car crash it is almost always not terrorists. So hearing about a car crash and thinking it was a terrorist is stupid.
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Postby Stalgard » Thu May 18, 2017 12:03 pm

and ups it was meant to be this one
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Postby Liriena » Thu May 18, 2017 12:03 pm

The holy war baiting fascists sure didn't waste any time bringing their evil gloating to this thread. Y'all are the best argument ever made for reeducation camps.

As for the incident... sad to hear that there were fatal casualties. Hope the injured have a swift recovery. :(
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 18, 2017 12:04 pm

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Edding wrote:Choo choo- the paranoia train has arrived; All aboard!

is it paranoia to think that usual suspects did it?

Considering he's a 26-year-old US Navy veteran and US citizen, yes.
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Postby Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 12:04 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ruskov wrote:Probably because Muslims, extremists to be precise, are behind most of the recent Car Ramming attacks.

You cant really blame someone for thinking a Muslim was behind the wheel.

In fact I can. A handful of car crashes have turned out to be a terrorist deliberately trying to kill people. A handful out of thousands. When there is a car crash it is almost always not terrorists. So hearing about a car crash and thinking it was a terrorist is stupid.


I think it was more the location that made this noteworthy and brings to mind terrorism. A car crashing into a crowd in a high-profile location like Times Square certainly brings to mind something like the attack in London or other attacks in France and Germany. I certainly can't support people automatically going "Must have been a Muslim terrorist at the wheel ban them all!" before hearing all the facts, but you can hardly blame people for thinking terrorism is a possibility when such events occur.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 18, 2017 12:06 pm

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Ifreann wrote:In fact I can. A handful of car crashes have turned out to be a terrorist deliberately trying to kill people. A handful out of thousands. When there is a car crash it is almost always not terrorists. So hearing about a car crash and thinking it was a terrorist is stupid.


I think it was more the location that made this noteworthy and brings to mind terrorism. A car crashing into a crowd in a high-profile location like Times Square certainly brings to mind something like the attack in London or other attacks in France and Germany. I certainly can't support people automatically going "Must have been a Muslim terrorist at the wheel ban them all!" before hearing all the facts, but you can hardly blame people for thinking terrorism is a possibility when such events occur.

Of course it was an initial possibility.

It wasn't being treated as a possibility though. It was treated as a total certainty.
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Postby Stalgard » Thu May 18, 2017 12:10 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Athrax wrote:
I think it was more the location that made this noteworthy and brings to mind terrorism. A car crashing into a crowd in a high-profile location like Times Square certainly brings to mind something like the attack in London or other attacks in France and Germany. I certainly can't support people automatically going "Must have been a Muslim terrorist at the wheel ban them all!" before hearing all the facts, but you can hardly blame people for thinking terrorism is a possibility when such events occur.

Of course it was an initial possibility.

It wasn't being treated as a possibility though. It was treated as a total certainty.

what? it never was. it was a theory i was trying to prove, and failed.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 18, 2017 12:18 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Of course it was an initial possibility.

It wasn't being treated as a possibility though. It was treated as a total certainty.

what? it never was. it was a theory i was trying to prove, and failed.

I'm referring less to you, and more to the posters saying things like "allahu akhbar :bow: :bow: :bow: " (if anything, a great reason why the bow smiley should join the palm smiley in the site wastebin).

But you were certainly leaning on that conclusion far more than necessary. It was just needless. Why did you, of all people, need to "prove it" anyway? The news was going to do it anyway, for all of us.
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Postby Stalgard » Thu May 18, 2017 12:25 pm

I'm referring less to you, and more to the posters saying things like "allahu akhbar :bow: :bow: :bow: " (if anything, a great reason why the bow smiley should join the palm smiley in the site wastebin).

why? its just a small joke
But you were certainly leaning on that conclusion far more than necessary. It was just needless.

of course i did. do creationists say that "maybe evolution is real, or maybe not, here have this theory?" you pick a side and defend it.
Why did you, of all people, need to "prove it" anyway? The news was going to do it anyway, for all of us.

because i was only person that willed to do it? and you cant trust news, which was proven by usa election. remember, hillary has 98% chances of winning

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Postby Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 12:26 pm

Stalgard wrote:
Why did you, of all people, need to "prove it" anyway? The news was going to do it anyway, for all of us.

because i was only person that willed to do it? and you cant trust news, which was proven by usa election. remember, hillary has 98% chances of winning


Then why did you trust the media to be accurately reporting that this incident had occurred in the first place?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 18, 2017 12:27 pm

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I'm referring less to you, and more to the posters saying things like "allahu akhbar :bow: :bow: :bow: " (if anything, a great reason why the bow smiley should join the palm smiley in the site wastebin).

why? its just a small joke

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 18, 2017 12:27 pm

Athrax wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In fact I can. A handful of car crashes have turned out to be a terrorist deliberately trying to kill people. A handful out of thousands. When there is a car crash it is almost always not terrorists. So hearing about a car crash and thinking it was a terrorist is stupid.


I think it was more the location that made this noteworthy and brings to mind terrorism. A car crashing into a crowd in a high-profile location like Times Square certainly brings to mind something like the attack in London or other attacks in France and Germany.

Aside from the one in London, they didn't happen in high profile places. Not in the way Time Square and the Palace of Westminster are high profile.
I certainly can't support people automatically going "Must have been a Muslim terrorist at the wheel ban them all!" before hearing all the facts, but you can hardly blame people for thinking terrorism is a possibility when such events occur.

Thinking terrorism is a possibility is one thing. Posting "Religion of peace!" as quickly as one's fingers can manage is rather another.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 18, 2017 12:28 pm

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Why did you, of all people, need to "prove it" anyway? The news was going to do it anyway, for all of us.

because i was only person that willed to do it? and you cant trust news, which was proven by usa election. remember, hillary has 98% chances of winning

Only a few news agencies said that. Most said that it was 50/50 by election day
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Postby The Portland Territory » Thu May 18, 2017 12:29 pm

I thought it was about some drunk driver, not a terrorist? Hm, let me check
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The Portland Territory wrote:I thought it was about some drunk driver, not a terrorist? Hm, let me check

You are correct. It's about a drunk driver, the guy has a history of drunk driving.
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The Portland Territory wrote:I thought it was about some drunk driver, not a terrorist? Hm, let me check


It was a drunk driver, yes.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Thu May 18, 2017 12:31 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:I thought it was about some drunk driver, not a terrorist? Hm, let me check


It was a drunk driver, yes.
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The Portland Territory wrote:I thought it was about some drunk driver, not a terrorist? Hm, let me check

You are correct. It's about a drunk driver, the guy has a history of drunk driving.

Ok. Yeah, I saw the picture of the car afterwards. Dont look like a terrorist attack to me
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Postby Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 12:32 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Athrax wrote:
I think it was more the location that made this noteworthy and brings to mind terrorism. A car crashing into a crowd in a high-profile location like Times Square certainly brings to mind something like the attack in London or other attacks in France and Germany.

Aside from the one in London, they didn't happen in high profile places. Not in the way Time Square and the Palace of Westminster are high profile.

Fair point, though I suppose those other attacks were also trucks, not cars, so there's that too. Still, London does exist as precedent.
I certainly can't support people automatically going "Must have been a Muslim terrorist at the wheel ban them all!" before hearing all the facts, but you can hardly blame people for thinking terrorism is a possibility when such events occur.

Thinking terrorism is a possibility is one thing. Posting "Religion of peace!" as quickly as one's fingers can manage is rather another.

In this, we are in complete agreement. Honestly, we all know that there is a segment of the internet with a major and rather troubling hatred for Muslims, and they take anything that might have a wiff of terrorism as an opportunity to pounce on the second-largest religious group in the world.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu May 18, 2017 12:33 pm

Unfortunate that it happened in such a densely populated area. Good to see the death count is low.
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Postby Stalgard » Thu May 18, 2017 12:33 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Stalgard wrote:why? its just a small joke

Its spam

no. spam would be posting 20 messages with same thing one after the other. this is single post with a harmless joke.
Then why did you trust the media to be accurately reporting that this incident had occurred in the first place?

i have seen enough proof to convince me it happened

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