13 Hit by a car in Times Square

[Torrocca]

Really though whether it was or wasn't intentionally murderous this fuck already had two DWI instances under his belt, why the fuck was he still even driving?

I don't think the legality of his driving was a concern of his.

Well obviously, but it should've been a greater concern to the people upholding the law.

[Ethel mermania]

I don't think the legality of his driving was a concern of his.

Well obviously, but it should've been a greater concern to the people upholding the law.

And before the fact what was the law suppose to do?

[Torrocca]

Well obviously, but it should've been a greater concern to the people upholding the law.

And before the fact what was the law suppose to do?

Be harsher in the first two cases of DWI, and also do a better job at rehabilitation?

Alcohol's just like any other drug yet for some dumbfuck reason we've normalized it into society like cigarettes were not too long ago.

[Ethel mermania]

And before the fact what was the law suppose to do?

Be harsher in the first two cases of DWI, and also do a better job at rehabilitation?

Alcohol's just like any other drug yet for some dumbfuck reason we've normalized it into society like cigarettes were not too long ago.

harsher? a spanking perhaps? how would that help? the only way for him not to be able to drive is for him to have been in jail

[Donut section]

So he wasn't Muslim?
Just some drugged up guy.
Colour me surprised.

[Torrocca]

Be harsher in the first two cases of DWI, and also do a better job at rehabilitation?

Alcohol's just like any other drug yet for some dumbfuck reason we've normalized it into society like cigarettes were not too long ago.

harsher? a spanking perhaps? how would that help? the only way for him not to be able to drive is for him to have been in jail

Forcing him into an actually well-funded rehabilitation clinic and revoking his license until he'd passed the course could also work. Luckily in America though, we don't think logically, because alcohol's good and anything that happens due to it is just an unforeseen tragedy and not actually the result of a malicious drug that should've stayed banned after it was banned the first time around!

[Khalisako]

People get killed in DWI's all the time around the USA. 13 isn't a mind boggling number, it's just big story because fancy part of new york.

Taking license away and jail time is not enough, as sales of alcohol should probably be tightened up a bit or something. My biggest concern is if the affected families get what they need, the drunk driver also being imprisoned.

There are cases where a DWI kills several people and thedrunk gets no punihsment while the affected family is out loved ones andpossibly even financial stability. Even tho there's no question that a crime was commit against their fmaily.


It is shame, but I don't particularlly care if it was intentional or not. You DWI with car and kill people, you get severe punishment. Simple.

[Ethel mermania]

harsher? a spanking perhaps? how would that help? the only way for him not to be able to drive is for him to have been in jail

Forcing him into an actually well-funded rehabilitation clinic and revoking his license until he'd passed the course could also work. Luckily in America though, we don't think logically, because alcohol's good and anything that happens due to it is just an unforeseen tragedy and not actually the result of a malicious drug that should've stayed banned after it was banned the first time around!

his license was revoked. his BAC was 0.0, no booze.

[Torrocca]

Forcing him into an actually well-funded rehabilitation clinic and revoking his license until he'd passed the course could also work. Luckily in America though, we don't think logically, because alcohol's good and anything that happens due to it is just an unforeseen tragedy and not actually the result of a malicious drug that should've stayed banned after it was banned the first time around!

his license was revoked. his BAC was 0.0, no booze.

Huh, well he was on PCP.

[Ethel mermania]

his license was revoked. his BAC was 0.0, no booze.

Huh, well he was on PCP.

you are just making it up as you go.

he is a known spice user. his preliminary drug screen came up positive (and they often false positive), what the drug was is going to take a week or no

and none of this has to do with booze

[Greed and Death]

It seems to be schizophrenia now.

[Ethel mermania]

It seems to be schizophrenia now.

i havent looked at sources since mid afternoon. i know they took him to bellvue, and PD has been treating it like mental health. i did see one thing that said he has heard voices in his head in the past, but its real early in the investigation, and there are always lots of rumors

[Torrocca]

Huh, well he was on PCP.

you are just making it up as you go.

he is a known spice user. his preliminary drug screen came up positive (and they often false positive), what the drug was is going to take a week or no

and none of this has to do with booze

What? The CNN article in the OP (now updated) literally said he was on PCP, Ethel.

[Ethel mermania]

you are just making it up as you go.

he is a known spice user. his preliminary drug screen came up positive (and they often false positive), what the drug was is going to take a week or no

and none of this has to do with booze

What? The CNN article in the OP (now updated) literally said he was on PCP, Ethel.

huh.... (reads) .... thanks

my bad

[New Grestin]

Oh boy, I can't wait for the "religion of peace" jokes when everyone assumes it was a Muslim.

Those never get old.

[Torrocca]

Oh boy, I can't wait for the "religion of peace" jokes when everyone assumes it was a Muslim.

Those never get old.

Grestin you're nine pages too late for that lol

[New Grestin]

Oh boy, I can't wait for the "religion of peace" jokes when everyone assumes it was a Muslim.

Those never get old.

Grestin you're nine pages too late for that lol

....

I'll, uh, I'll just show myself out, then.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

1. Most cars in 'Murka are automatic.
2. He was driving in a city, which is different then driving on a highway in that building momentum is very difficult
3. Evasion and not being able to stop are two separate things.

"Unintended acceleration" as we call it over here (stamping on the accelerator instead of the brake, and then stamping harder on the accelerator because you thought you hit the brake and you're panicking because you're not stopping), is actually more common in an automatic because there is no clutch.

Unintended acceleration is usually resolved in a short period of time. Stamping on accelerator, than realizing it's not working, so you hit the brakes. Continuing down 3 city blocks and running as many people over as you can, especially in a crowded metropolitan area on extremely narrow roads where there exists many physical obstacles, isn't unintended.

I agree with the statement of drunk driving happens more than terrorists using cars to run people over, so any time someone runs someone over, we can't just assume MUSLIMS. But considering the context that the driver managed to avoid a number of obstacles such as the walls of buildings, etc. he had managed to control his vehicle to prolong his 'rampage' and cause as many casualties as he could.

As news has come out that he wanted to "Kill them" and that he wanted the Police to "kill him."

This was obviously not the case of a drunk driver with acceleration problems.

I admit I haven't read the most recent news on this case, but if this did start as an accident, he quickly made the decision to go on a rampage in a metropolitan area.

It is then reasonable for people, who when this was first reported, to believe that this was a terror attack, because of the multiple characteristics such attacks share in common. As new facts come to light, only then is it problematic to hold onto the first opinion or assumption.