Ukraine blocks Russian propaganda.

[United Muscovite Nations]

No, because most Crimeans want to be part of Russia, US based polls confirm this:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/08/des ... ssia-1-02/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... 0db688510d

How can you trust any polls of the people subjugated by the Russian military? Like - really?! They had soldiers at every corner there telling them to vite uncle Vlad - of course they behaved!

They weren't subjugated, though. You can look up video and photo yourself, the people of Crimea largely welcomed the Russian troops.

[Sharania]

Oh, I'm just pointing out that Ukraine doesn't really give anything back to us, so we shouldn't support it while it flushes our money down the toilet with corruption.

Oh, yes! The good Ol'-Trumpist slogan! Let them pay for their own security! Also favored by Alt-Right!

[United Muscovite Nations]

Oh, I'm just pointing out that Ukraine doesn't really give anything back to us, so we shouldn't support it while it flushes our money down the toilet with corruption.

Oh, yes! The good Ol'-Trumpist slogan! Let them pay for their own security! Also favored by Alt-Right!

I don't see what's wrong with telling a country that they should sort out their financial house before coming to us for handouts. Face it, Ukraine had 25 fucking years to build a halfway decent country, and they failed in ever measure. Their country is one of the most corrupt country in the former Soviet Union, it's one of the poorest (if not the poorest) in the former USSR, it's one of the most unstable, it's one of the most fickle. Why should we prop up a country that has spent the last 25 years sabotaging itself?

[Sharania]

They weren't subjugated, though. You can look up video and photo yourself, the people of Crimea largely welcomed the Russian troops.

What "videos"? Provided by Kremlin's propaganda corps?!

The more I listen to you the more I become convinced that such ban should be spread in the entire West!

[United Muscovite Nations]

They weren't subjugated, though. You can look up video and photo yourself, the people of Crimea largely welcomed the Russian troops.

What "videos"? Provided by Kremlin's propaganda corps?!

The more I listen to you the more I become convinced that such ban should be spread in the entire West!

Actually, provided by largely pro-Ukrainian or Western sources, like those polls.

Also, here in the US, we believe in the freedom of the Press and freedom of opinion.

[Bajan]

To be fair most Polish were perfectly fine with Russia taking over when the Nazis knocked on their other door.

[Improved werpland]

What "videos"? Provided by Kremlin's propaganda corps?!

The more I listen to you the more I become convinced that such ban should be spread in the entire West!

Actually, provided by largely pro-Ukrainian or Western sources, like those polls.

Also, here in the US, we believe in the freedom of the Press and freedom of opinion.

Pew Research Center and Gallup are pro-Ukrainian? Why can't we simply label certain sources as just reliable, not biased to one side or another?

[Yupun]

Banning Russian Facebook aka VK is no better than than what China does, we might as well convert to communism and declare war on those capitalist Ruskies!

[United Muscovite Nations]

Actually, provided by largely pro-Ukrainian or Western sources, like those polls.

Also, here in the US, we believe in the freedom of the Press and freedom of opinion.

Pew Research Center and Gallup are pro-Ukrainian? Sorry, I realize I should not post in this dumb troll thread (and I cannot under-emphasize that), but why can't we simply label certain sources as just reliable, not biased to one side or another?

I wasn't referring to those, I was referring to Vice News' series on the Ukrainian conflict, where they did show that the Russian military was unopposed in Ukraine (they referred to it as "the most chill military occupation ever"), and that was a series where they literally went on patrol with the Azov Battalion.

[Shefkland]

I wouldn't expect anything less from Kiev. They're too busy praising Nazi collaborators to care about what their people want

[Sharania]

To be fair most Polish were perfectly fine with Russia taking over when the Nazis knocked on their other door.

Says a 0 messages person of the account created just recently. Hmmm... I'm not implying anything, but...

[Republic of China Pacific States]

"Ukraine blocks Russian Propaganda" is very different from "Ukraine bans Russia's biggest social media networks and internet services popular with millions."

[Sharania]

Banning Russian Facebook aka VK is no better than than what China does, we might as well convert to communism and declare war on those capitalist Ruskies!

You can laugh all you want, but VK was used to cement Russina hold over Crimea and to spread pro-Moscow porpaganda in Donbass.

And Russians are literally Nazis, btw

[Zemljoslav Republic]

Banning Russian software would be the equivalent of the USA banning software created by black developers. It is unnecessarily racist, most of the software isn't even affiliated with the Russian government. While Russia clearly isn't a perfect country, there isn't a need to block out what their companies have created. The situation vaguely reminds me of how the USSR banned most Western merchandise, and now Ukraine is banning theirs. What most people do not understand is that in every country, there are multiple ethnic groups. Ukraine has many peoples, but the west side is supported by the US, making them more powerful.

[Sharania]

I wouldn't expect anything less from Kiev. They're too busy praising Nazi collaborators to care about what their people want

How much Olgino pays for that kind of posting?

[Bajan]

To be fair most Polish were perfectly fine with Russia taking over when the Nazis knocked on their other door.

Says a 0 messages person of the account created just recently. Hmmm... I'm not implying anything, but...

I have to start somewhere. Do you honestly believe someone's involved enough and petty enough about this topic and this thread to turn back time roughly a day ago and make an account and wait specifically for this topic to post something?

[Sharania]

"Ukraine blocks Russian Propaganda" is very different from "Ukraine bans Russia's biggest social media networks and internet services popular with millions."

No, there are literally, no differences here.

[Yupun]

Banning Russian Facebook aka VK is no better than than what China does, we might as well convert to communism and declare war on those capitalist Ruskies!

You can laugh all you want, but VK was used to cement Russina hold over Crimea and to spread pro-Moscow porpaganda in Donbass.

And Russians are literally Nazis, btw

You do know that West Ukraine killed so many women and children right? Not to mention they actually are Nazi`s and want all Russian speakers exterminated which is wrong last time I checked!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q
There are plenty of proof that West Ukrainians are behaving like savages! Their latest move they changed laws so there are no more freedom of religion which means they cannot join the EU!

[Republic of China Pacific States]

"Ukraine blocks Russian Propaganda" is very different from "Ukraine bans Russia's biggest social media networks and internet services popular with millions."

No, there are literally, no differences here.

Yes, there really are differences; Russian social media platforms are not "propaganda".

[Zemljoslav Republic]

There are plenty of proof that West Ukrainians are behaving like savages! Their latest move they changed laws so there are no more freedom of religion which means they cannot join the EU!

What must be understood is that in every culture, there are good and bad people (you can even go further to the point where a person is not entirely good or bad). In Eastern and Western Ukraine, there are good people, living normal lives. The media only focuses on the loudest people, who are coincidentally the worse ones. For example, American media will do anything to portray Serbs as bad, even though there are many good and some bad people from the culture.

[Yupun]

There are plenty of proof that West Ukrainians are behaving like savages! Their latest move they changed laws so there are no more freedom of religion which means they cannot join the EU!

What must be understood is that in every culture, there are good and bad people (you can even go further to the point where a person is not entirely good or bad). In Eastern and Western Ukraine, there are good people, living normal lives. The media only focuses on the loudest people, who are coincidentally the worse ones. For example, American media will do anything to portray Serbs as bad, even though there are many good and some bad people from the culture.

That is indeed true same can be said for China and Japan on both sides there are good and bad people!

[Farnhamia]

Banning Russian Facebook aka VK is no better than than what China does, we might as well convert to communism and declare war on those capitalist Ruskies!

You can laugh all you want, but VK was used to cement Russina hold over Crimea and to spread pro-Moscow porpaganda in Donbass.

And Russians are literally Nazis, btw

*** Warned for trolling. ***

[Rio Cana]

Earlier this year, they also blocked Steven Seagal from entering Ukraine for five years. The french actor Gérard Depardieu has also been blocked from entering Ukraine. Has we all know, Ukraine is going bust. Seems the EU. in June will be allowing Ukrainians free visa entry to some EU. nations. So will there be a stampede of Ukrainians leaving. Has the EU. traded the Syrian stampede for a Ukrainian stampede.

Read this - https://euobserver.com/foreign/137528

[MERIZoC]

Not worth it until they can block people who impersonate others on the Internet as well.

You are correct. Several of Kremlin-aligned trolls managed to impersonate various VIPs both off and on-line. How can you sto things like that?

I wonder when Ukraine will take steps to limit "kike" propaganda

No idea what are you talking about here. Are you one of the "true believers" of Krelmlin's propaganda? Jews are safe and sound in Ukraine - they even have the opportunity to fill the highest post in the country (e.g. Prime Minister). But, yeah, lets talk about the mythical anti-semitism here!

Yeah you're right there aren't any national political figures spouting ethnic slurs against Jews and there especially aren't any neo nazi paramilitaries running around the country.

Wait hold on

[Internationalist Bastard]

Read; Ukraine blocks websites to it's populace