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Postby Questers » Fri May 19, 2017 4:16 pm

Manning should have been shot. That's all folks.
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Postby Neo Balka » Fri May 19, 2017 5:23 pm

Questers wrote:Manning should have been shot. That's all folks.


yep
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Postby Triblios » Sun May 21, 2017 5:45 am

Neo Balka wrote:
Questers wrote:Manning should have been shot. That's all folks.


yep


Just like those civilians in the video deserved it?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 21, 2017 5:47 am

Questers wrote:Manning should have been shot. That's all folks.

I wouldn't go that far. But she should have served the full sentence without pay
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun May 21, 2017 7:44 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Questers wrote:Manning should have been shot. That's all folks.

I wouldn't go that far. But she should have served the full sentence without pay

Manning shouldnt get benefits of any kind let alone stay in the military* believe *(this im not sure about.)
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 21, 2017 7:47 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn't go that far. But she should have served the full sentence without pay

Manning shouldnt get benefits of any kind let alone stay in the military* believe *(this im not sure about.)

Well she already has. She got full pay while she was in prison
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 21, 2017 7:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Manning shouldnt get benefits of any kind let alone stay in the military* believe *(this im not sure about.)

Well she already has. She got full pay while she was in prison

Is this actually true, though?
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 21, 2017 8:08 am

:meh:
Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well she already has. She got full pay while she was in prison

Is this actually true, though?


She still is.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 21, 2017 8:10 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn't go that far. But she should have served the full sentence without pay

Manning shouldnt get benefits of any kind let alone stay in the military* believe *(this im not sure about.)


That fuckwad should have gotten kicked out as soon as the verdict was reached.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 21, 2017 8:14 am

Uxupox wrote::meh:
Ifreann wrote:Is this actually true, though?


She still is.

Is she? I was checking what she was charged with on Wikipedia. Said she was sentenced to forfeiting all pay and allowances.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 21, 2017 8:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote::meh:

She still is.

Is she? I was checking what she was charged with on Wikipedia. Said she was sentenced to forfeiting all pay and allowances.


Must be wrong info as she is still getting benefits payed such as the army paying her medical operation.
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 21, 2017 8:52 am

Triblios wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
yep


Just like those civilians in the video deserved it?


Dont be in a warzone and not expect to have a round pass through your skull at a high velocity.

In a another term, dont be a idiot.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 21, 2017 8:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Manning shouldnt get benefits of any kind let alone stay in the military* believe *(this im not sure about.)

Well she already has. She got full pay while she was in prison


WHY THE HELL WAS THAT?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 21, 2017 8:58 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Is she? I was checking what she was charged with on Wikipedia. Said she was sentenced to forfeiting all pay and allowances.


Must be wrong info as she is still getting benefits payed such as the army paying her medical operation.

Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 21, 2017 9:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Must be wrong info as she is still getting benefits payed such as the army paying her medical operation.

Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.


Tricare prime…
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 21, 2017 9:04 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.


Tricare prime…

Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 21, 2017 9:04 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Tricare prime…

Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.


yes but she was receiving benefits.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 21, 2017 9:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Tricare prime…

Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.


Tricare prine does not extend to inmates at FT. Leavensworth. Besides she is still getting payed as an AD member of this moment.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 21, 2017 9:41 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.


Tricare prine does not extend to inmates at FT. Leavensworth. Besides she is still getting payed as an AD member of this moment.


How do we know this? People keep saying it but I've not seen a source?

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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 21, 2017 9:45 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Tricare prine does not extend to inmates at FT. Leavensworth. Besides she is still getting payed as an AD member of this moment.


How do we know this? People keep saying it but I've not seen a source?


It's on the first 5 pages of the thread. I can't link because my stupidiry on mobile knows no bounds.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 21, 2017 10:05 am

Uxupox wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
How do we know this? People keep saying it but I've not seen a source?


It's on the first 5 pages of the thread. I can't link because my stupidiry on mobile knows no bounds.


It wasn't sourced, it was just claimed a lot.

However, I have found a source. She isn't being paid, she is considered active duty, and because of that she is still getting benefits. The reason for this? Due process, her case is up for appeal and she's being treated like any other soldier in that circumstance.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 101594390/

“Pvt. Manning is statutorily entitled to medical care while on excess leave in an active duty status, pending final appellate review,” Foster said.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 21, 2017 10:13 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Being given medical care while in custody is not payment.


Tricare prine does not extend to inmates at FT. Leavensworth. Besides she is still getting payed as an AD member of this moment.

So you keep saying.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon May 22, 2017 6:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Tricare prine does not extend to inmates at FT. Leavensworth. Besides she is still getting payed as an AD member of this moment.

So you keep saying.

Well I couldn't find anything about tricare prime but I did find this on USA today

While in prison Manning had received hormone treatment and care for gender dysphoria. She had also been informed that she was eligible for sex reassignment surgery to be paid for by the government. However, if the appeal of her conviction is denied, she could be dishonorably discharged, which mandates a loss of benefits including health care.


While Manning’s court-martial conviction remains under appeal, she will remain a private in the Army, said Dave Foster, an Army spokesman. As an active duty soldier, Manning will continue to receive health care and have access to commissaries and military exchanges, but she will not be paid.
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Postby Lmao Free Stuff Man » Mon May 22, 2017 6:47 am

>chelsea
>she
>her
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon May 22, 2017 6:52 am

Questers wrote:Manning should have been shot. That's all folks.

^This.

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