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Postby Thermodolia » Mon May 15, 2017 8:29 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Ya might makes right and Bigger Gun Diplomacy both had a hand in that one

There's also the wee fact that, at the time, the Kuomintang wasn't exactly liked in mainland China.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon May 15, 2017 8:34 pm

Osnil Returns wrote:I have a very low opinion on the UN, and I think the whole thing needs to be put in the garbage can like the trash it is. Time and time again it has chosen dictatorships over the "freedom" it wants the world to have, all in the name of so-called World Peace.

Well last I checked it's avoided any great power wars in the last 70 years or so, which is what it's supposed to do, so go UN tbh
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Postby NERVUN » Mon May 15, 2017 8:34 pm

Volkmacht wrote:
Datlofff wrote:It come stop my attention the UN is currently aiding North korea in the creation of a nerve agent.

Sauce:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/15/un-agency-helps-north-korea-with-patent-application-for-banned-nerve-gas-chemical.html



My question is, who you thing these idiots should be fired for aiding north korea, a unstable nation ran by a maniac, with the creation of a internationally banned weapon?

Personally, I think they should be fired, because how can you be THAT stupid to let north korea file a patent for something that dangerous?


If North Korea actually uses tabun as a result of the UN office in Geneva, that's tantamount to enabling them to commit crimes against humanity. The people in charge of the office should not only be fired, but they should also be put on trial. They did the same with the people who made Zyklon B and those who supplied Zyklon B.

... You DO know what a patent is, right?

I'm fairly confident that the patent clerk that processed the patent for Zyklon B wasn't put on trial after WWII.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon May 15, 2017 8:48 pm

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Postby The Corparation » Mon May 15, 2017 9:33 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Volkmacht wrote:
If North Korea actually uses tabun as a result of the UN office in Geneva, that's tantamount to enabling them to commit crimes against humanity. The people in charge of the office should not only be fired, but they should also be put on trial. They did the same with the people who made Zyklon B and those who supplied Zyklon B.

... You DO know what a patent is, right?

I'm fairly confident that the patent clerk that processed the patent for Zyklon B wasn't put on trial after WWII.

He wasn't but he likely escaped prosecution through his patent office connections. If you dig past he paperwork you'll find that Patent clerks are behind all of the modern WMDS. For example: Nuclear Weapons are based on Einstein's physics. Physics Einstein just "happened" to come up with while working in a patent office. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
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Postby NERVUN » Mon May 15, 2017 9:43 pm

The Corparation wrote:
NERVUN wrote:... You DO know what a patent is, right?

I'm fairly confident that the patent clerk that processed the patent for Zyklon B wasn't put on trial after WWII.

He wasn't but he likely escaped prosecution through his patent office connections. If you dig past he paperwork you'll find that Patent clerks are behind all of the modern WMDS. For example: Nuclear Weapons are based on Einstein's physics. Physics Einstein just "happened" to come up with while working in a patent office. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

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Postby Arotania » Mon May 15, 2017 11:38 pm

This story is such nonsense. NaCN is only a tiny part of the Tabun molecule, it adds a single group of two atoms.
Ethanol on the other hand... That ethoxy group doesn't come from nowhere. So following the same logic we should stop the worldwide production of all alcoholic beverages to prevent the synthesis of Tabun.

But wait a minute. Cyanide is also a main component of Prussian blue. The first modern synthetic pigment which is the traditional blue in blueprints, which could be used to file a patent.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Tue May 16, 2017 12:11 am

North Korea could keep their process secret. How is the UN helping them get a patent, thereby revealing their process, anything but a good thing?
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 1:08 am

Fox News? You have to be kidding me.
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Postby Risottia » Tue May 16, 2017 2:42 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:At issue, un being seen as a useless pile of shit.
un helps nk with nerve gas.
nk deploys nerve gas
un starks bawking like chicken little, "see we told you you need us"

Fuck the un.


SK is losing war
UN rushes to help and fights for SK
SK is saved
60 years later, SK goes OMG UN is piece of shit because UN allows neighbour to make chemicals we also use and produce.
UN thinks, maybe saving SK's arses back in the fifties wasn't such a great idea.
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Postby Risottia » Tue May 16, 2017 2:44 am

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NERVUN wrote:Yes, curse the idea of democracy, how evil it is.

Africa has had dozens of rebellions that the UN involved itself in, and put in a clown worse than the guy before him. Or picking a communist nation over a free nation (picking Commie-infested China over Taiwan)

Blame the American government for that, not the UN. Yep, your beloved Nixon.
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 3:19 am

Risottia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:At issue, un being seen as a useless pile of shit.
un helps nk with nerve gas.
nk deploys nerve gas
un starks bawking like chicken little, "see we told you you need us"

Fuck the un.


SK is losing war
UN rushes to help and fights for SK
SK is saved
60 years later, SK goes OMG UN is piece of shit because UN allows neighbour to make chemicals we also use and produce.
UN thinks, maybe saving SK's arses back in the fifties wasn't such a great idea.


Lol. You do realize your logic is faulty, don't you?

What's the point of encouraging NK to denuclearize, when they are clearly, I mean, clearly, using them to produce nuclear energy for citizens to use?
NK's behaviour is exactly why they should not be trusted with such a chemical weapon. Perhaps, killing people is perfectly normal for you.

There's absolutely no way U.N. goes against South Korea, because if they strike South Korea, they will face an immense breakdown economically, due to disintegration of Samsung, LG, and the likes?
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Postby Risottia » Tue May 16, 2017 3:38 am

Gim wrote:NK's behaviour is exactly why they should not be trusted with such a chemical weapon. Perhaps, killing people is perfectly normal for you.

We're tolerating the only country ever to fire nuclear weapons at civilians and military alike to operate nuclear reactors and to stock nuclear weapons and to operate military and civilian nuclear devices.
We're tolerating EVERY SINGLE country who ever used chemical weapons to stock chemicals that could be used to produce CW.

Evidently, nuking and gassing people is perfectly normal for you.
Or maybe you can stick your poorly-devised ad hominem up your exhaust port.
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Postby Pope Joan » Tue May 16, 2017 3:43 am

cyanide can be used in making fabrics such as rayon.

It is used in making absorbable sutures.

There are many legitimate uses, in industry, pharmaceuticals, and agriculture.
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 3:43 am

Risottia wrote:
Gim wrote:NK's behaviour is exactly why they should not be trusted with such a chemical weapon. Perhaps, killing people is perfectly normal for you.


We're tolerating the only country ever to fire nuclear weapons at civilians and military alike to operate nuclear reactors and to stock nuclear weapons and to operate military and civilian nuclear devices.
We're tolerating EVERY SINGLE country who ever used chemical weapons to stock chemicals that could be used to produce CW.

Evidently, nuking and gassing people is perfectly normal for you.
Or maybe you can stick your poorly-devised ad hominem up your exhaust port.


So, U.N.'s been letting this happen, and you're siding with them? Then, you say South Korea must be exterminated and chastised for that behaviour. Don't you see South Korea is one of the most rational and democratic countries in the world? The last sixty years proved that to the world.

South Korea has all the right to protest. You might as well say U.N. should shut down, just because they tolerated the nerve gas to be used throughout the world. This argument is hardly ad hominem; you think it is, but it is not. Pay attention to your brain and the arguments that happen around you.
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 3:44 am

Pope Joan wrote:cyanide can be used in making fabrics such as rayon.

It is used in making absorbable sutures.

There are many legitimate uses, in industry, pharmaceuticals, and agriculture.


Yes, but, in the case of North Korea using it, SK has the right to complain.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue May 16, 2017 3:45 am

Pope Joan wrote:cyanide can be used in making fabrics such as rayon.

It is used in making absorbable sutures.

There are many legitimate uses, in industry, pharmaceuticals, and agriculture.


It is also a chemical used in the manufacture of crystal meth.

Seriously, did anyone read the links I put in my other post here?
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 3:50 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:cyanide can be used in making fabrics such as rayon.

It is used in making absorbable sutures.

There are many legitimate uses, in industry, pharmaceuticals, and agriculture.


It is also a chemical used in the manufacture of crystal meth.

Seriously, did anyone read the links I put in my other post here?


I just came here because Risottia apparently wants to obliterate South Korea, just because they said something against their warring and Stalinist neighbour.
That's just blasphemy.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 16, 2017 3:51 am

NERVUN wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Sodium Cyanide has a number of uses besides making Nerve Gas, gold mining is a big one. Also its a fucking patent application. The UN isn't telling them how to make it or giving them materials to make it they're just doing paperwork saying that N Korea has come up with a new way to make it.

This.

Jumping Jesus Pogo'ing Nekkid Through a Picnic people, it's a fricken patent! What on earth do you think a patent is or does?


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Postby Risottia » Tue May 16, 2017 3:52 am

Gim wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
It is also a chemical used in the manufacture of crystal meth.

Seriously, did anyone read the links I put in my other post here?


I just came here because Risottia apparently wants to obliterate South Korea, just because they said something against their warring and Stalinist neighbour.
That's just blasphemy.


More unwarranted bullshit from Gim.
I fail to be surprised.

Show where I stated I wish "SK to be obliterated just because they said something etc etc". Or admit that you're such a poor debater that your "arguments" boil down to lies and fallacies.
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Postby Risottia » Tue May 16, 2017 3:53 am

Gim wrote:you say South Korea must be exterminated and chastised for that behaviour.

More lies.

Maybe you should take time to read and comprehend what you "comment".
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 3:53 am

Risottia wrote:
Show where I stated I wish "SK to be obliterated just because they said something etc etc". Or admit that you're such a poor debater that your "arguments" boil down to lies and fallacies.


60 years later, SK goes OMG UN is piece of shit because UN allows neighbour to make chemicals we also use and produce.
UN thinks, maybe saving SK's arses back in the fifties wasn't such a great idea.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Please. Don't tell me you're from America.
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Postby Risottia » Tue May 16, 2017 3:55 am

Gim wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Show where I stated I wish "SK to be obliterated just because they said something etc etc". Or admit that you're such a poor debater that your "arguments" boil down to lies and fallacies.


60 years later, SK goes OMG UN is piece of shit because UN allows neighbour to make chemicals we also use and produce.
UN thinks, maybe saving SK's arses back in the fifties wasn't such a great idea.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Please. Don't tell me you're from America.


Because UN = myself = America. Exactly where did I state so?

Seriously, more coffee in your breakfast.
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Postby Gim » Tue May 16, 2017 3:56 am

Risottia wrote:
Gim wrote:


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Please. Don't tell me you're from America.


Because UN = myself = America. Exactly where did I state so?

Seriously, more coffee in your breakfast.


Looks like you have a decaf in front of you. You want it switched to caf?
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Postby Alvecia » Tue May 16, 2017 3:57 am

Other than the other uses mentioned previously, like, what, would rejecting the patent have stopped them making it or something?

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