AntiFA: Protesters or Terrorists?

[Uxupox]

Why not just go full fascist and start killing them as well as they are a threat? hmm?

I mean it's already been proven that Nazis are evil as fuck, but let's just pretend they're somehow being oppressed nowadays. Maybe compassion will work this time! It sure worked in 1933-1939, huh?

It's been a long time since the last old purge right?

[Grinning Dragon]

Well, time to suppress Capitalists too then, because they sure are responsible for millions of deaths too. It doesn't matter the reasoning, right? :^)

Yep, which is exactly the problem with your position. It has the potential to very quickly cascade out of control.

But lets try to get back on topic now, antifa and their trashcan pushing shenanigans is what we should be discussing.

And their flags are stupid, too.

[Donut section]

Nazi's and Communist are one indivisible from an outsiders perspective in the sheer amount of deaths that they have caused.

In that case, so too are Capitalists. So too are Imperialists. So too are...

WAIT!

Hmm... let's look through a history book... uh huh... uh huh... nope, not seeing the bit where everyone else also decided to brutally and savagely stick "impure" people, in the millions, into forced labor camps and then start killing those people off in the millions just because they weren't "pure". But let's keep trying to say everyone's exactly the same as the Nazis.

Yes the deliberately targeted killings of nazis is different to the ones done by socialists.

[Uxupox]

Nazi's and Communist are one indivisible from an outsiders perspective in the sheer amount of deaths that they have caused.

In that case, so too are Capitalists. So too are Imperialists. So too are...

WAIT!

Hmm... let's look through a history book... uh huh... uh huh... nope, not seeing the bit where everyone else also decided to brutally and savagely stick "impure" people, in the millions, into forced labor camps and then start killing those people off in the millions just because they weren't "pure". But let's keep trying to say everyone's exactly the same as the Nazis.

Then just start the killing seems you seem to want to oppress other people or are they animals?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yep, which is exactly the problem with your position. It has the potential to very quickly cascade out of control.

But lets try to get back on topic now, antifa and their trashcan pushing shenanigans is what we should be discussing.

And their flags are stupid, too.

Very. Both the far right and far left have very poor taste in flags.

[Torrocca]

1. Socialism barely had a run of a Century. Capitalism has had more than five and is still going. To even suggest capitalistic constructs have been less deadly is frankly insane.

2. Mao's Great Leap Forward wasn't intended to murder people, but let's just push that narrative because "dem evul commies" amirite?

1. I will admit that capitalism has enabled colonialism, as a result of it being so damn effective at improving the lives of its citizens causing, but it's not wholesale responsible for colonialism as that's a result of the social situation and culture of the nations that first developed it. Where as the death socialism causes is a direct result of the attempts to enforce socialism.

2. Socialism as class warfare is intended to be violent so it should be held accountable for all the deaths it causes.

1. Because putting other people down to make a profit was never the aim of Capitalism as it was practiced and as it is practiced.

2. Millions didn't die from class-based violence though.

I mean it's already been proven that Nazis are evil as fuck, but let's just pretend they're somehow being oppressed nowadays. Maybe compassion will work this time! It sure worked in 1933-1939, huh?

It's been a long time since the last old purge right?

Well I'm not sorry that I don't want to see little Nazi denizens trying to seize power for a second time.

[Proctopeo]

But...how? If you tell me that unicorns exist and I tell you to prove it, how would that be an opinion?

Still sounds much like an opinion, but I'll let it fly for the time being.

Yes.

Why?

I'll just ask again: where do they come from?

I already told you.

[Uxupox]

1. I will admit that capitalism has enabled colonialism, as a result of it being so damn effective at improving the lives of its citizens causing, but it's not wholesale responsible for colonialism as that's a result of the social situation and culture of the nations that first developed it. Where as the death socialism causes is a direct result of the attempts to enforce socialism.

2. Socialism as class warfare is intended to be violent so it should be held accountable for all the deaths it causes.

1. Because putting other people down to make a profit was never the aim of Capitalism as it was practiced and as it is practiced.

2. Millions didn't die from class-based violence though.

It's been a long time since the last old purge right?

Well I'm not sorry that I don't want to see little Nazi denizens trying to seize power for a second time.

I'm sad that I have to kill you but I can't have you rise up again! Holy fuck.

[Thama]

Calling Antifa terrorists is like calling Anonymous a dangerous hacker cell

[Torrocca]

In that case, so too are Capitalists. So too are Imperialists. So too are...

WAIT!

Hmm... let's look through a history book... uh huh... uh huh... nope, not seeing the bit where everyone else also decided to brutally and savagely stick "impure" people, in the millions, into forced labor camps and then start killing those people off in the millions just because they weren't "pure". But let's keep trying to say everyone's exactly the same as the Nazis.

Then just start the killing seems you seem to want to oppress other people or are they animals?

Because ideologies, which can change, deserve to be protected from discrimination as much as race and sex, things that inherently can't change due to genetics, amirite?

Again, not sorry that I have no sympathies for genocidal fucks and their next generation of supporters.

[Mavorpen]

Why?

The same reason why I would need an origin for natural rights if I were to claim that natural rights includes the right to rape. If you want to assert that there are inalienable rights, you need an origin for them that justifies the recognition. Otherwise, they become meaningless and, as I've said, gibberish.

I already told you.

Again, I don't believe in God.

[Uxupox]

Then just start the killing seems you seem to want to oppress other people or are they animals?

Because ideologies, which can change, deserve to be protected from discrimination as much as race and sex, things that inherently can't change due to genetics, amirite?

Again, not sorry that I have no sympathies for genocidal fucks and their next generation of supporters.

All people should be protected and not a select few to be oppressed.

[Donut section]

1. I will admit that capitalism has enabled colonialism, as a result of it being so damn effective at improving the lives of its citizens causing, but it's not wholesale responsible for colonialism as that's a result of the social situation and culture of the nations that first developed it. Where as the death socialism causes is a direct result of the attempts to enforce socialism.

2. Socialism as class warfare is intended to be violent so it should be held accountable for all the deaths it causes.

1. Because putting other people down to make a profit was never the aim of Capitalism as it was practiced and as it is practiced.

2. Millions didn't die from class-based violence though.

It's been a long time since the last old purge right?

Well I'm not sorry that I don't want to see little Nazi denizens trying to seize power for a second time.

1. No it wast nor is it today.

2. Yes they do.

[Torsiedelle]

-ignore! Maybe. Or nah-

[Torrocca]

1. Because putting other people down to make a profit was never the aim of Capitalism as it was practiced and as it is practiced.

2. Millions didn't die from class-based violence though.



Well I'm not sorry that I don't want to see little Nazi denizens trying to seize power for a second time.

I'm sad that I have to kill you but I can't have you rise up again! Holy fuck.

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

[Torrocca]

Because ideologies, which can change, deserve to be protected from discrimination as much as race and sex, things that inherently can't change due to genetics, amirite?

Again, not sorry that I have no sympathies for genocidal fucks and their next generation of supporters.

All people should be protected and not a select few to be oppressed.

Not Nazis.

1. Because putting other people down to make a profit was never the aim of Capitalism as it was practiced and as it is practiced.

2. Millions didn't die from class-based violence though.



Well I'm not sorry that I don't want to see little Nazi denizens trying to seize power for a second time.

1. No it wast nor is it today.

2. Yes they do.

1. What is European history past 1492?

2. Not really.

[Proctopeo]

Then just start the killing seems you seem to want to oppress other people or are they animals?

Because ideologies, which can change, deserve to be protected from discrimination as much as race and sex, things that inherently can't change due to genetics, amirite?

Again, not sorry that I have no sympathies for genocidal fucks and their next generation of supporters.

It's still genocide if it's done against an ideology.

Why?

The same reason why I would need an origin for natural rights if I were to claim that natural rights includes the right to rape. If you want to assert that there are inalienable rights, you need an origin for them that justifies the recognition. Otherwise, they become meaningless and, as I've said, gibberish.

That makes limited sense, but still some sense, so I'll let it fly.

I already told you.

Again, I don't believe in God.

Good thing my explanation can be accepted without believing in any sort of deity. All you have to believe is that humans can know when a situation could be better.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm sad that I have to kill you but I can't have you rise up again! Holy fuck.

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

I'd say the USSR was pretty damn complicit in the start of WW2, tbh.

[Donut section]

I'm sad that I have to kill you but I can't have you rise up again! Holy fuck.

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

Remember to make sure it's innocent people. None of those guilty hundreds millions who starved to death

[Uxupox]

I'm sad that I have to kill you but I can't have you rise up again! Holy fuck.

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

Of course.

I got a hard drive full of examples if you need more.

[Torsiedelle]

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

I'd say the USSR was pretty damn complicit in the start of WW2, tbh.

But Poles don't count, so it's all cool :^)

Also, Kalmyk relocations and purges.

[Torrocca]

Because ideologies, which can change, deserve to be protected from discrimination as much as race and sex, things that inherently can't change due to genetics, amirite?

Again, not sorry that I have no sympathies for genocidal fucks and their next generation of supporters.

It's still genocide if it's done against an ideology.

The same reason why I would need an origin for natural rights if I were to claim that natural rights includes the right to rape. If you want to assert that there are inalienable rights, you need an origin for them that justifies the recognition. Otherwise, they become meaningless and, as I've said, gibberish.

That makes limited sense, but still some sense, so I'll let it fly.

Again, I don't believe in God.

Good thing my explanation can be accepted without believing in any sort of deity. All you have to believe is that humans can know when a situation could be better.

The Nazi ideology has never been helpful to the world; I don't think it deserves a stay here.

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

Remember to make sure it's innocent people. None of those guilty hundreds millions who starved to death

Wow, I didn't know Socialists everywhere systematically schemed to kill millions, including themselves, by starving their countries!

Tell me, when's the last time a Socialist nation started a world war or started a genocide of innocent people?

I'd say the USSR was pretty damn complicit in the start of WW2, tbh.

Because the whole world went to war against them, amirite?

[Mavorpen]

That makes limited sense, but still some sense, so I'll let it fly.

I'm recognizing that you're letting it fly, but I have to ask: if they don't need an origin, then why were origins ascribed to them in the first place?

Good thing my explanation can be accepted without believing in any sort of deity. All you have to believe is that humans can know when a situation could be better.

That's not an origin. That's an attempt to justify them. A poor one at that.

But, suppose I accept this. Would you then agree with me if I were to say that a starving person has the natural right to steal food? After all, the only thing preventing them is the idea of private property, and it's demonstrably true that his situation could be better if he's allowed to steal then and there.

[Uxupox]

I'd say the USSR was pretty damn complicit in the start of WW2, tbh.

But Poles don't count, so it's all cool :^)

Also, Kalmyk relocations and purges.

Don't forget the Kaliningrad purge.

[Donut section]

All people should be protected and not a select few to be oppressed.

Not Nazis.

1. No it wast nor is it today.

2. Yes they do.

1. What is European history past 1492?

2. Not really.

1. A gradual improvement overcoming severe societal, cultural and religious issues thanks capitalism!

2. Just the people violently enforcing class based violence.