AntiFA: Protesters or Terrorists?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Occasionally, they can delve into minor incidents of terrorism, but the group isn't organized enough to be referred to as any kind of entity. Same reason you can't call the Alt-Right one thing, because it's a deliberately broad term.

[Chinevion]

Fascism has already plunged the world into catastrophe once. It committed most horrible crime of Holocaust and still there are people who say they agree with these racist and reactionary ideology. I do not think that when knowing history, one can say that fascism is a opinion, it is in fact a crime and people who hold these opinion are criminals. Antifa are people's way of criminal justice against these barbarian hitlerite ideology.

1. Communism has done more damage.
2. UM well, the people AntiFA is fighting are NOT fascists. Speaking as a Jew, the fact that I have been called a fascist nazi is a bit funny to me.
3. THe ideology is bad, but that does not mean it is a criminal offense.

[The East Marches II]

That's an amazing definition and it hinges on the word "unlawful".

GG Uncle Sam.

Uncle Sam decides what's lawful or not .

Uncle Sam is a man you can trust

[Bakery Hill]

You don't really see antifa people gunning down fascists yet either. But you do see the opposite.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/1/23/ ... annopoulos

Yes because antifa is stupid enough to bring a knife to a gun fight and still act the aggressor :^)

Was there a knife? If so, dumb move, but I was not aware of it.

[Xibei-San-Ma]

I could say the same about communism and extremism but you don't see me gunning them down.

Yet.

What on earth have Antifa got to do with communism

Well, some antifa members probably are communists. That's the only connection, what I can imagine.

[Bakery Hill]

That's an amazing definition and it hinges on the word "unlawful".

GG Uncle Sam.

Uncle Sam decides what's lawful or not .

Precisely.

[Bakery Hill]

Uncle Sam decides what's lawful or not .

Uncle Sam is a man you can trust

Might makes right.

[Uxupox]

Fascism has already plunged the world into catastrophe once. It committed most horrible crime of Holocaust and still there are people who say they agree with these racist and reactionary ideology. I do not think that when knowing history, one can say that fascism is a opinion, it is in fact a crime and people who hold these opinion are criminals. Antifa are people's way of criminal justice against these barbarian hitlerite ideology.

1. Communism has done more damage.
2. UM well, the people AntiFA is fighting are NOT fascists. Speaking as a Jew, the fact that I have been called a fascist nazi is a bit funny to me.
3. THe ideology is bad, but that does not mean it is a criminal offense.

An ideology is not a criminal offense is it the implementation that is very erroneous.

[Edding]

Fascism has already plunged the world into catastrophe once. It committed most horrible crime of Holocaust and still there are people who say they agree with these racist and reactionary ideology. I do not think that when knowing history, one can say that fascism is a opinion, it is in fact a crime and people who hold these opinion are criminals. Antifa are people's way of criminal justice against these barbarian hitlerite ideology.

Criminalizing an opposing ideology is literally one of the central tenets of fascism.

If you want to defeat them, let them speak their mind and make asses of themselves. Sunlight is the best disinfectant in this case, so to speak.

[Chinevion]

THey seem so reasonable

[Lemmingtopias]

What on earth have Antifa got to do with communism

Typically a very major crossover.

Libertarian-socialism perhaps... extremist authoritarian communists are not going to be welcome by antifa. Redskins, perhaps.

[Taviana SSR]

Fascism has already plunged the world into catastrophe once. It committed most horrible crime of Holocaust and still there are people who say they agree with these racist and reactionary ideology. I do not think that when knowing history, one can say that fascism is a opinion, it is in fact a crime and people who hold these opinion are criminals. Antifa are people's way of criminal justice against these barbarian hitlerite ideology.

1. Communism has done more damage.
2. UM well, the people AntiFA is fighting are NOT fascists. Speaking as a Jew, the fact that I have been called a fascist nazi is a bit funny to me.
3. THe ideology is bad, but that does not mean it is a criminal offense.

1. No, it has only improved lives of workers and peasants where it was implemented. It also achieved first human space flight and in Cuba lowest infant mortality rate in world
2. I do not care if youself identify as fash, as I do not believe in IDPOL. I say that when you hang around and agree with white supremacists, nationalists, anti-immigrant racists and neonazi symphatizers, you are acting in support of fascism.
3. Calling for deportation, murder and new crusades against every non "aryan" christian should be a criminal offense, don't you think?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Fascism has already plunged the world into catastrophe once. It committed most horrible crime of Holocaust and still there are people who say they agree with these racist and reactionary ideology. I do not think that when knowing history, one can say that fascism is a opinion, it is in fact a crime and people who hold these opinion are criminals. Antifa are people's way of criminal justice against these barbarian hitlerite ideology.

Criminalizing an opposing ideology is literally one of the central tenets of fascism.

If you want to defeat them, let them speak their mind and make asses of themselves. Sunlight is the best disinfectant in this case, so to speak.

>central tenets
Not really. Lots of ideologies believe in criminalizing opposing ideologies, for one, for another, that isn't one of the defining features of fascism, no.

[Bakery Hill]

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THey seem so reasonable

I would profoundly disagree. Even a dead fascist is not good.

[Uxupox]

1. Communism has done more damage.
2. UM well, the people AntiFA is fighting are NOT fascists. Speaking as a Jew, the fact that I have been called a fascist nazi is a bit funny to me.
3. THe ideology is bad, but that does not mean it is a criminal offense.

1. No, it has only improved lives of workers and peasants where it was implemented. It also achieved first human space flight and in Cuba lowest infant mortality rate in world
2. I do not care if youself identify as fash, as I do not believe in IDPOL. I say that when you hang around and agree with white supremacists, nationalists, anti-immigrant racists and neonazi symphatizers, you are acting in support of fascism.
3. Calling for deportation, murder and new crusades against every non "aryan" christian should be a criminal offense, don't you think?

Calling for the murder of somebody? Yea definitely should be criminalized but deportation and "New Crusades"? No.

[Bakery Hill]

Typically a very major crossover.

Libertarian-socialism perhaps... extremist authoritarian communists are not going to be welcome by antifa. Redskins, perhaps.

Not in my experience, despite it's current domination by anarchists, Antifa started out as a KPD initiative and I know Stalinists involved in Antifa groups.

[The East Marches II]

Yes because antifa is stupid enough to bring a knife to a gun fight and still act the aggressor :^)

Was there a knife? If so, dumb move, but I was not aware of it.

Yes that is what I read on that incident. The police released the shooter and didn't press charges as far as I know. That isn't because the guy called for no charges later either, which was a nice PR move.

[Edding]

Criminalizing an opposing ideology is literally one of the central tenets of fascism.

If you want to defeat them, let them speak their mind and make asses of themselves. Sunlight is the best disinfectant in this case, so to speak.

>central tenets
Not really. Lots of ideologies believe in criminalizing opposing ideologies, for one, for another, that isn't one of the defining features of fascism, no.

I wasn't trying to imply it was an exclusive trait, nor the most defining one. Not all one-party states have been fascist, but all fascist countries have been one-party states.

[The East Marches II]

Uncle Sam is a man you can trust

Might makes right.

That's what he taught me. You don't think Uncle Sam would ever lie to you now do you?

[Bakery Hill]

Was there a knife? If so, dumb move, but I was not aware of it.

Yes that is what I read on that incident. The police released the shooter and didn't press charges as far as I know. That isn't because the guy called for no charges later either, which was a nice PR move.

All I can gather was that he had a knife on his person, not that he produced it. And yes that was good, an anarchist practicing as he preaches for once. :^)

[Bakery Hill]

Might makes right.

That's what he taught me. You don't think Uncle Sam would ever lie to you now do you?

I don't think the fountain of all truth can lie.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I'd say rioters, they're violent but not killing soldiers to advance their cause violent

[Chinevion]

Poll added

[Washington Resistance Army]

THese knifes were made to be sneaked into protests undetected. They Throw fireworks and always start the violence. Luckily they are incompetent.

Those knives have existed for quite a while, they aren't an antifa invention.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

US Army: greatest Antifa organization.