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i think the Islands belong to...

Poll ended at Sat May 20, 2017 3:06 pm

Argentina
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19%
United Kingdom
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 10, 2017 3:55 pm

Charnea wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
and you tried to get it and were kicked out fair and square.

Your shitty military does not stack up against even a Euro military.

And by "Even a Euro military", I assume you mean the 9th largest military in the world?

Cedoria wrote:I would argue that's the same situation, especially since the Russians actually surrendered their claims to Crimea after the fall of the USSR in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons on its soil...

But that's the bit the Putin apologists always forget about and is off-topic in any case.

That's what I'm saying. Russians can nationalistically lay claim to land they haven't occupied in decades, why can't we?

For one the entire world still says that Ukraine owns it.
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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 3:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:For one the entire world still says that Ukraine owns it.

And yet...who controls the Crimea?

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Postby UKCS » Wed May 10, 2017 3:58 pm

*sniffs*
I smell.... Argentinian.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 10, 2017 3:58 pm

Charnea wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:For one the entire world still says that Ukraine owns it.

And yet...who controls the Crimea?

The Russians illegally it's not there's it's Ukraine's
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Postby Chunmei » Wed May 10, 2017 3:58 pm

Far as I'm concerned, the kelpers have the final say over the sovereignty question and nobody else.

The islands aren't Argentina's to take nor ours to give away, simple as.

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Postby Uxupox » Wed May 10, 2017 3:58 pm

The island belongs to the United States of America as an unincorporated territory. You must vacate the premises immediately.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 10, 2017 3:58 pm

Uxupox wrote:The island belongs to the United States of America as an unincorporated territory. You must vacate the premises immediately.


I support this.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 10, 2017 3:59 pm

Uxupox wrote:The island belongs to the United States of America as an unincorporated territory. You must vacate the premises immediately.

Sounds good to me.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed May 10, 2017 4:00 pm

Charnea wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Public healthcare and colleges aren't gonna help you when we start airdropping laser guided freedom :^)

But it's not like a war is gonna happen, Argentina wouldn't stand a chance against the UK.



You mean England. UK is not long for this world.


You forget, we own Wales.

Besides, you might want to wait an election cycle or two, since I think May would have a 1/3 chance of going "meh, just nuke them."
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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 4:01 pm

UKCS wrote:*sniffs*
I smell.... Argentinian.

What was your first clue, Sherlock.

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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 4:01 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Charnea wrote:

You mean England. UK is not long for this world.


You forget, we own Wales.

Besides, you might want to wait an election cycle or two, since I think May would have a 1/3 chance of going "meh, just nuke them."

Haha, true.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Wed May 10, 2017 4:05 pm

In my actual opinion, it's probably too late to have the Falklands return to Argentina because they've been populated by brits for so long, and now overwhelmingly wants to be with the UK. Therefore, they should keep their current government.

However, Argentina should receive primary rights over the maritime zone (while still allowing necessary back and forth between the UK and the islands), since that's what they really should be going after.
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Postby Luziyca » Wed May 10, 2017 4:06 pm

Personally, the will of the islanders reign supreme. If they want to stay British, so be it. If they want to join Argentina, so be it. But I am not a Falklander/Malvinesa, so...

Though personally, Malvinas is a better name than the Falkland Islands. But that's just me.
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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 4:06 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:In my actual opinion, it's probably too late to have the Falklands return to Argentina because they've been populated by brits for so long, and now overwhelmingly wants to be with the UK. Therefore, they should keep their current government.

However, Argentina should receive primary rights over the maritime zone (while still allowing necessary back and forth between the UK and the islands), since that's what they really should be going after.

If I were being rational, I would agree with that.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Wed May 10, 2017 4:07 pm

Luziyca wrote:Personally, the will of the islanders reign supreme. If they want to stay British, so be it. If they want to join Argentina, so be it. But I am not a Falklander/Malvinesa, so...

Though personally, Malvinas is a better name than the Falkland Islands. But that's just me.

It's a far better name, indeed.
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Postby UKCS » Wed May 10, 2017 4:07 pm

Charnea wrote:
UKCS wrote:*sniffs*
I smell.... Argentinian.

What was your first clue, Sherlock.

When you started saying something about your military being powerful.
I mean, come on. Only an Argentinian would ever say that.
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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 4:07 pm

Luziyca wrote:Personally, the will of the islanders reign supreme. If they want to stay British, so be it. If they want to join Argentina, so be it. But I am not a Falklander/Malvinesa, so...

Though personally, Malvinas is a better name than the Falkland Islands. But that's just me.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Wed May 10, 2017 4:07 pm

UKCS wrote:
Charnea wrote:What was your first clue, Sherlock.

When you started saying something about your military being powerful.
I mean, come on. Only an Argentinian would ever say that.

I mean, it's pretty great if you compare it to, like, Paraguay.
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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 4:08 pm

UKCS wrote:
Charnea wrote:What was your first clue, Sherlock.

When you started saying something about your military being powerful.
I mean, come on. Only an Argentinian would ever say that.

Your deductive capabilities are mind boggling

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Postby Charnea » Wed May 10, 2017 4:08 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
UKCS wrote:When you started saying something about your military being powerful.
I mean, come on. Only an Argentinian would ever say that.

I mean, it's pretty great if you compare it to, like, Paraguay.

Also very true.

Its like, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina and that's about it in terms of Latin American militaries.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 10, 2017 4:08 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
UKCS wrote:When you started saying something about your military being powerful.
I mean, come on. Only an Argentinian would ever say that.

I mean, it's pretty great if you compare it to, like, Paraguay.


That's a pretty damn low bar to be setting.
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Postby UKCS » Wed May 10, 2017 4:08 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
UKCS wrote:When you started saying something about your military being powerful.
I mean, come on. Only an Argentinian would ever say that.

I mean, it's pretty great if you compare it to, like, Paraguay.

Well, that's Paraguay, isn't it? XD
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Postby Uxupox » Wed May 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Charnea wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Personally, the will of the islanders reign supreme. If they want to stay British, so be it. If they want to join Argentina, so be it. But I am not a Falklander/Malvinesa, so...

Though personally, Malvinas is a better name than the Falkland Islands. But that's just me.

Spanish > English


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Postby Neo Balka » Wed May 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:In my actual opinion, it's probably too late to have the Falklands return to Argentina because they've been populated by brits for so long, and now overwhelmingly wants to be with the UK. Therefore, they should keep their current government.

However, Argentina should receive primary rights over the maritime zone (while still allowing necessary back and forth between the UK and the islands), since that's what they really should be going after.


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Postby Uxupox » Wed May 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Charnea wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:I mean, it's pretty great if you compare it to, like, Paraguay.

Also very true.

Its like, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina and that's about it in terms of Latin American militaries.


So non-existent?
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