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A very interesting hypothetical based on a dream I had a few years ago. By the way, I have very interesting dreams. This dream is told from the perspective of a man, and there's no way for me to convert it. You'll just have to make do, ladies.

Let's suppose that someone of infinite moneys and power (or, finite, but enough that you can't match it) has kidnapped you because he likes your DNA profile, and has kidnapped another person that he liked her DNA profile. This powerful person's aim, of course, is for you two to produce a child which then the rich person will take as his own. You are your age, and the girl is ~15.

Here's the kicker. She doesn't want to have sex with you, and she's so idealistic he hasn't been able to barter or threaten her with anything to make her willingly submit. Therefore, you will have to rape her.

As leverage, this rich man has kidnapped your SO, and she will be tortured until you rape this girl and impregnate her (however many times that takes), at which time you and your SO will be released.

So, how will it be - rape the girl and force her to carry your spawn, or watch your loved one suffer?

By the way - this is a hypothetical, and there's no way to escape or otherwise beat it. Either you rape the girl, or you don't.

In before "What is an SO?"

I suppose I would rape her. Allow me to explain.
I (supposedly) would have strong emotional connections to my SO. I (supposedly) would not with her.
Definite, possibly endless, torture of my SO vs. temporary torture of the girl

No matter what one choses to answer, one will probably come across as the most horrible person in the world.

I guess I'd do it because of my low pain tolerance and the infinite duration of my stay. I would however use the absolute minumum amount of force necessary so as to reduce the trauma somewhat.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:No matter what one choses to answer, one will probably come across as the most horrible person in the world.

I already do, so might as well cut my losses.

Tunizcha wrote:In before "What is an SO?"

I suppose I would rape her. Allow me to explain.
I (supposedly) would have strong emotional connections to my SO. I (supposedly) would not with her.
Definite, possibly endless, torture of my SO vs. temporary torture of the girl

The event would probably destroy that relationship anyway.

I can see no other option other than attacking the rich man anyway I can, hell, even killing myself destroys his stupid little plans,

New Koutia wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

There's another version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMoWt0wnlUw

Depends on what kinda torture we're talking about, since rape itself is a form of torture. I'm pretty confident I could seduce the girl, though that would only make me feel marginally better about the idea.

The whole situation is so fantastic that I'm having difficulty applying a serious, real-life, decision making process to it.

The Parkus Empire wrote:The whole situation is so fantastic that I'm having difficulty applying a serious, real-life, decision making process to it.

I often have the same problem with the idea of an independent free-market.

New Koutia wrote:I often have the same problem with the idea of an independent free-market.

No, such markets could exist, though they'd make this situation look fun.

Barringtonia wrote:

Tunizcha wrote:In before "What is an SO?"

I suppose I would rape her. Allow me to explain.
I (supposedly) would have strong emotional connections to my SO. I (supposedly) would not with her.
Definite, possibly endless, torture of my SO vs. temporary torture of the girl

The event would probably destroy that relationship anyway.

I can see no other option other than attacking the rich man anyway I can, hell, even killing myself destroys his stupid little plans,

Killing yourself would be obvious, if it weren't for the fact that I've already promised there's no escape - not even death.

The Parkus Empire wrote:No, such markets could exist, though they'd make this situation look fun.

You're silly. It would become a monopoly eventually.

Galloism wrote:

Barringtonia wrote:

Tunizcha wrote:In before "What is an SO?"

I suppose I would rape her. Allow me to explain.
I (supposedly) would have strong emotional connections to my SO. I (supposedly) would not with her.
Definite, possibly endless, torture of my SO vs. temporary torture of the girl

The event would probably destroy that relationship anyway.

I can see no other option other than attacking the rich man anyway I can, hell, even killing myself destroys his stupid little plans,

Killing yourself would be obvious, if it weren't for the fact that I've already promised there's no escape - not even death.

To be honest I have the same problem as others, I can hardly provide a choice when it all seems so meaningless.

Worse, it seems to be a means of finding a way to justify rape by any means one can, by arranging the parameters so it was 'all one could really do', or making the point that 'there can be scenarios in which rape is the only option', which is generally a troubling sign.

Barringtonia wrote:To be honest I have the same problem as others, I can hardly provide a choice when it all seems so meaningless.

Worse, it seems to be a means of finding a way to justify rape by any means one can, by arranging the parameters so it was 'all one could really do', or making the point that 'there can be scenarios in which rape is the only option', which is generally a troubling sign.

Well, most thought experiments are fantastical scenarios that have no basis in reality. I mean, if someone really wanted a kid from x and y, and had that kind of money, he'd knock them both out and hire someone to do an artificial insemination.

But that wouldn't be any fun as a thought experiment. Screaming that someone stole your sperm isn't really a "decision" per se.

New Koutia wrote:You're silly. It would become a monopoly eventually.

Which would break-up due to internal conflict (coups, assassinations, wars) and revolution by workers.

Galloism wrote:Well, most thought experiments are fantastical scenarios that have no basis in reality. I mean, if someone really wanted a kid from x and y, and had that kind of money, he'd knock them both out and hire someone to do an artificial insemination.

But that wouldn't be any fun as a thought experiment. Screaming that someone stole your sperm isn't really a "decision" per se.

I'm not sure this is any fun as a thought experiment either and, like I said, the choice of parameters is rather disturbing.

Oh shit... I just realized it!! It's Rape night on NSG.

Haha! I don't have an SO, so nothing bad can possibly happen! Aha!

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Oh shit... I just realized it!! It's Rape night on NSG.

Nervun started it.

Besides, we could be talking about religion or abortion.

Galloism wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Oh shit... I just realized it!! It's Rape night on NSG.

Nervun started it.

Besides, we could be talking about religion or abortion.

Please no! Not again! I'll stick with rape, thank you.

Barringtonia wrote:I'm not sure this is any fun as a thought experiment either and, like I said, the choice of parameters is rather disturbing.

As in most drastic thought-experiments involve murder rather than rape, or as in this is something a repressed sicko would day-dream about?

I was just thinking...if the villian waits long enough, the girl will come round. Stockholm Syndrome, guys...

Of course there's a way to escape. If you can't find option three in a situation where you've only been given two you aren't trying hard enough. Besides, why isn't idiot boy simply harvesting an egg from the girl having me jack off in a cup and implanting the test tube baby in a willing surrogate that he paid with that infinite money of his?

I have no clue, I doubt I could even get it "up" around a 15 year old, they just look so young and I'd feel so dirty....ugh. Well I hope my SO has led a long, happy, productive life!