White Australia still a thing for Australian Labour Party?

[Neu Leonstein]

You'd think the Aboriginals would at least get a token representation

They always get ignored.

But even without being told anything about a scandal, I would have noticed that something was a bit odd about the ad. Maybe it's because I lived in inner-city Sydney for years and so I have a skewed view of what Australians look like, but if you drew a random sample of 12 people from around where I lived, it would not look like that!

I don't think there's any malice in it, but it's shitty politicking. The idea of putting "workers", complete with their little worker costumes, in the ad is to make people identify with the ALP and what it's trying to do. So it stands to reason that you'd pick a representative batch of people to try and get as many people to identify with your characters as possible.

[Geilinor]

It's probably just an innocent mistake.

[Geilinor]

Wait, why does the Australian Labor Party spell "labor" the correct way (unlike the op)?

They dropped the "'u" because they thought it looked modern.

[The Liberated Territories]

Did they draw these people randomly or decided it to be all white people and a token asian?

[Australian rePublic]

Imagine the outcry if this ad was run by the LNP! People wouldn't even be 1/6 as for forgiving. But honestly, as an ethnic minority myself, I have to say, who bloody cares? I mean, I'm sure they didn't do it on purpose

[Australian rePublic]

'innocent mistake' and 'blatant ignorance' could conceivably be lumped together, so this misses 'considered strategy'.

Beyond that.. Louis CK captures my thoughts..

"I don't want to go to the future and find out what happens to white people because we're gonna pay hard for this shit, you got to know that. We're not going to just fall from number one to two. They're gonna hold us down and fuck us in the ass forever. And we totally deserve it.

But for now, wheeeeeeee!"

White people don't deserve to be mistreated. Sure, SOME whites were total and absolute dicks to other races in the past. I'm not gonna try to deny that, but most of those people are all dead. These days, white nations are amongst the most racially diverse nations on the planet. Today, white people don't mistreat anyone. Trying to argue that white people should be punished for the actions of their ansestors, is like saying that "John's dead grandfather stole my car 30 years ago, therefore, John must be put into prsion, even though he wasn't even born yet" Now, any normal person would say that the victim of the car jacking should be put into a looney bin, but for some reason, white guilt still exists

[Sanctissima]

Conversely, they could be running ads like the current ones our Liberal Party in Canada is, where hardly any of the people represented are White.

Realistically, most of Australia is White. If the ads are to have a realistic and proportional representation of Australians, that's who will overwhelmingly be in the ads.

That aside, the outrage this is sparking is complete nonsense. I thought the point of doing away with racism was not giving an undue amount of attention to the colour of other peoples' skin. Besides, particularly in terms of the Aborigines, maybe if the people who claim they're deeply angered by the lack of tokenistic representation of Aborigines cared even half as much for their actual well-being then there wouldn't be the post-Res. school poverty-stricken cesspools we currently call Australian reserves. But no, by all means continue to be upset by a political ad while what's left of Aborigine culture and society implodes on itself.

[Chessmistress]

Checked.
The picture is perfect and it's not a mistake, it's in fact a very precise description of the Australian population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... population
Those are the main ancestries in Australian population:
English (36.1%)
Australian (35.4%)
Irish (10.4%)
Scottish (8.9%)
Italian (4.6%)
German (4.5%)
Chinese (4.3%)
Indigenous Australians (3.0%)
"Australian" meaning both "generic European Australian" and "generic Anglo-Celtic Australian".
In the picture there's a woman who seems to be of Chinese ancestry, so the picture is on the whole absolutely correct and very representative of actual Australian population.
They could have included an indigenous australian, but it wasn't really necessary: they're 1-in-33 persons, and by so quite unlikely to appear in a random group of just 12 persons.

Even the sex ratio is excellent, and the depiction of women as normal women, without sexualization.
My congratulations to Australian Labour Party.

Did they draw these people randomly or decided it to be all white people and a token asian?

It's clearly decided it to be all white people and a token asian, because that's the actual demographics of Australian natives.

[Major-Tom]

oh no

[Cedoria]

Me thinks you have no idea of what actually happened....

I can't emphasize enough how "right on the money" Alan Jones was about the situation. The proof pointing towards Lebanese youths is out there, but Australia doesn't accept it because of a liberal conspiracy that tries to protect Australia's immigration policy from being questioned too harshly by their predominately White electorate.

Anybody who describes Alan Jones as being 'right on the money' has proved themselves unworthy of engaging in serious discussion...

So I won't bother responding to your bait.

[Cedoria]

Too be fair, what Turnbull's proposing actually has very little to do with Gonski...

It's called 'stealing and rebranding'. Turnbull ain't a fool, he knows Gonski was popular, so he thinks if he sticks the name on the policy people won't notice it's got some quite different content.

But I agree attacking it on that basis is foolish, religious schools should fund themselves in this country, not get public funding,

And I didn't say there were genuinely democratic socialist, I said it would be good if they were, which is what the party was originally conceived of...

Turnbull's policy at least does what Labor didn't have the guts to do, which is take money from some schools that don't need it. Gillard failed hard with her promise that no school would be worse off in terms of funding. That showed it for the shallow farce it was.

That said, Turnbull has not offered Gonski, and I'm disappointed in David Gonski for standing with him on this. He's offered cuts but no redistribution to truly needy schools.

And Shorten is playing to the bogan miner crowd.

To some extent yes, that's accurate.

Gillard would've done better not to make a promise she knew full damn well she couldn't have fulfilled. Gonski was about redistribution and a more equitable funding model, when you do that, some schools will lose funding by definition, but they'll tend to be the ones who can afford to if you do it right. But that's not really what Turnbull's doing either...

It's that typical Aussie politicians curse of trying to appeal to everybody at once, overreaching, and thus ending up disappointing everybody, when they'd be better to draw the lines of supporters and opponents up to begin with and go from there.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Imagine the outcry if this ad was run by the LNP! People wouldn't even be 1/6 as for forgiving. But honestly, as an ethnic minority myself, I have to say, who bloody cares? I mean, I'm sure they didn't do it on purpose

I don't think it's intentional, but usually you would make a bigger effort to put in token minorities avoid this

[Internationalist Bastard]

Checked.
The picture is perfect and it's not a mistake, it's in fact a very precise description of the Australian population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... population
Those are the main ancestries in Australian population:
English (36.1%)
Australian (35.4%)
Irish (10.4%)
Scottish (8.9%)
Italian (4.6%)
German (4.5%)
Chinese (4.3%)
Indigenous Australians (3.0%)
"Australian" meaning both "generic European Australian" and "generic Anglo-Celtic Australian".
In the picture there's a woman who seems to be of Chinese ancestry, so the picture is on the whole absolutely correct and very representative of actual Australian population.
They could have included an indigenous australian, but it wasn't really necessary: they're 1-in-33 persons, and by so quite unlikely to appear in a random group of just 12 persons.

Even the sex ratio is excellent, and the depiction of women as normal women, without sexualization.
My congratulations to Australian Labour Party.

Did they draw these people randomly or decided it to be all white people and a token asian?

It's clearly decided it to be all white people and a token asian, because that's the actual demographics of Australian natives.

How does one sexualize women in a political ad?

[Sanctissima]

Checked.
The picture is perfect and it's not a mistake, it's in fact a very precise description of the Australian population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... population
Those are the main ancestries in Australian population:
English (36.1%)
Australian (35.4%)
Irish (10.4%)
Scottish (8.9%)
Italian (4.6%)
German (4.5%)
Chinese (4.3%)
Indigenous Australians (3.0%)
"Australian" meaning both "generic European Australian" and "generic Anglo-Celtic Australian".
In the picture there's a woman who seems to be of Chinese ancestry, so the picture is on the whole absolutely correct and very representative of actual Australian population.
They could have included an indigenous australian, but it wasn't really necessary: they're 1-in-33 persons, and by so quite unlikely to appear in a random group of just 12 persons.

Even the sex ratio is excellent, and the depiction of women as normal women, without sexualization.
My congratulations to Australian Labour Party.



It's clearly decided it to be all white people and a token asian, because that's the actual demographics of Australian natives.

How does one sexualize women in a political ad?

Far be it from me to defend the Radical Feminist, but Chess didn't say that.

She simply said that it represents the general Australian population proportionally, meaning that has a proportional number of men and women, Whites and minorities.

[Internationalist Bastard]

How does one sexualize women in a political ad?

Far be it from me to defend the Radical Feminist, but Chess didn't say that.

She simply said that it represents the general Australian population proportionally, meaning that has a proportional number of men and women, Whites and minorities.

She said the women are portrayed normally and not sexualized at all

[Sanctissima]

Far be it from me to defend the Radical Feminist, but Chess didn't say that.

She simply said that it represents the general Australian population proportionally, meaning that has a proportional number of men and women, Whites and minorities.

She said the women are portrayed normally and not sexualized at all

Well, crap, didn't notice that.

[Grand Jan Mayen]

Oh my god! A pure white cast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PANICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

In all seriousness, why should anyone care two emus and a kangaroo about this? So what? A guy casts a propaganda campaign video staring a pure white cast, what is the problem with that?

[Internationalist Bastard]

She said the women are portrayed normally and not sexualized at all

Well, crap, didn't notice that.

Yeah, so question stands

[Saiwania]

I've done my research and I've decided that there simply isn't a better party within all of Australian politics in existence.
I officially endorse: Pauline Hanson's One Nation party to rule over Australia. This is the party that needs to permanently govern Australia for the better.

[The Liberated Territories]

I've done my research and I've decided that there simply isn't a better party within all of Australian politics in existence.
I officially endorse: Pauline Hanson's One Nation party to rule over Australia. This is the party that needs to permanently govern Australia for the better.

can't overwhelm the leyonhjelm

m8

[Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders]

White Australia should still be a policy. I'm surprised that Australia doesn't have a single major conservative party which makes that one of its central planks that it campaigns on. Provided Australia is majority White, I'd expect for such a party to get considerable success electorally.

You can tell a lot about a person based on what races they capitalize.

Black Nationalist or SJW:
"A Black man was walking by a white man"

White Nationalist:
"A White man was walking by a black man"

Neutral:
"A white man was walking by a black man" or "A White man was walking by a Black man."

[The Liberated Territories]

Did they draw these people randomly or decided it to be all white people and a token asian?

It's clearly decided it to be all white people and a token asian, because that's the actual demographics of Australian natives.

It seems so. Although I guess if you are not at least Chinese or above, you get the same treatment as Asians in America get: invisible. Perhaps they should rotate stock?

[I didnt vote for Trump]

. Gonski was about redistribution and a more equitable funding model, when you do that, some schools will lose funding by definition, but they'll tend to be the ones who can afford to if you do it right. But that's not really what Turnbull's doing either...

So if Malcolm Turnbull is not taking money away from the schools that have too much and giving it to the schools that have too little, why is he taking away from the schools that have too much and giving it to the schools that have too little?

[Saiwania]

You can tell a lot about a person based on what races they capitalize.

I capitalize all of the racial groups as a general rule. With the exception of native Americans. There are questions as to which native Americans are native to which locations, for how long, and how similar they are or aren't to Asians or Pacific Islanders.

[I didnt vote for Trump]

Labor is making a strategic play for Pauline Hanson's core demographic. They've heard the lessons that whining white men feel neglected and they are, in the parlance of the right, virtue signalling.

It's a return to their roots as the working class party. That's why they are fighting 457 visas so hard.

The ALP is simply falling into line with the wishes, desires and conservative social beliefs of its biggest benefactors; construction and trades unions. Unfortunately this insistence on social conservatism has seen them lose a swath of voters on the political spectrum to both the Greens and Coalition. The ALP are a party that stands for nothing at the moment.