Russia just hacked the French election

[Internationalist Bastard]

Didn't seem to stick now did it?

[Gauthier]

Not even Russian cybermeddling could get a victory for Marine LePen. Daamn.

[Pope Joan]

Hackers just expose the truth. Prosecute the guilty, not those who merely expose the guilt.

To go after only the hackers and not their targets is like the US dirst prosecuting the photographer whose evidence exposed the human rights abuses at Abu Ghraib.

I don't think anything was ever done to the CIA operatives who were responsible for the abuses.

[Olerand]

Hackers just expose the truth. Prosecute the guilty, not those who merely expose the guilt.

To go after only the hackers and not their targets is like the US dirst prosecuting the photographer whose evidence exposed the human rights abuses at Abu Ghraib.

I don't think anything was ever done to the CIA operatives who were responsible for the abuses.

That's a stretch of a comparison. No such thing as "hackers" as if all hackers are one and the same. Whoever is responsible for this should be punished to the full extent of French law.

[Senkaku]

Hackers just expose the truth.

[Vassenor]

If You dont like what the polls are indicating...
If you dont like compromising information surfacing...
If you dont like an election result...
...BLAME THE RUSSIANS!!!

We have all seen this before; and if it was happening they have done a terrible job of it!

For all of those who use it as their "Go-To-Response" I find it interesing that you use "Cold-War-Logic" while most of you have globalist/socialist/marxist, or even out right communist leanings; yet know little to nothing of the rise of communism (let alone its horrors), nor of the cold war.
Indeed when I bring it up, the most common response is; "what is/was the cold war?"!!!!

Which is interesting because when the leaks happened he was still leading the polls and went on to win the election. Your premise is flawed.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

Not even Russian cybermeddling could get a victory for Marine LePen. Daamn.

Meaning French people couldn't be affected with Russian. Such staunch position, unlike their fellow Americans.

[Baltenstein]

If You dont like what the polls are indicating...
If you dont like compromising information surfacing...
If you dont like an election result...
...BLAME THE RUSSIANS!!!

We have all seen this before; and if it was happening they have done a terrible job of it!

Russia's information warfare branches have done sloppy jobs before. Like when Russian news outlets tried to spread rumors about Macron's alleged sexuality, which didn't hurt his ratings one bit. Or when they reported on an alleged refugee rape case in Germany some time ago, which was prompty uncovered as being made-up. Or their hilariously bad attempts of portraying what "really happened" with Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (releasing blurry photoshops of Ukrainian fighter jets and the like).
In the end, the people in charge of doing this sort of things are just people, not some sort of Moriarty-esque diabolical masterminds. This sort of media/information screw-ups and sub-optimal performances don't only happen to Russian opinion-makers, it happens in the West too, like when Western news outlets reported intensively about - made-up, as it turned out - Iraqi atrocities against infants in Kuwaiti hospitals during the Gulf War of 1991. And of course the whole WMD debacle 13 years later. Or the rather embarrasing role German police and several German media played in regards to the Cologne New Year's Eve events of 2015/16 etc.

[Central Asian Republics]

I wonder what the response to this supposed hack is now that Macron has won? Would it be "Russia just failed to hack the election *gloats*", or would it be "Russia never hacked the election to begin with"?

Probably the former as the people who push these claims usually don't have the humility to admit when they're wrong.

[Socialist Tera]

Russia hacked us seems pretty silly. It seems like an idea to cover up the errors of liberal democracy

[Frank Zipper]

Why do people assume hacking must succeed? It can influence, but it certainly does not guarantee success.

[Central Asian Republics]

Why do people assume hacking must succeed? It can influence, but it certainly does not guarantee success.

Why do people assume that hacking took place in the first place? We know that documents were leaked, but the actual election? You have no evidence of that.

[The Grene Knyght]

Why do people assume hacking must succeed? It can influence, but it certainly does not guarantee success.

Why do people assume that hacking took place in the first place? We know that documents were leaked, but the actual election? You have no evidence of that.

So Russia just hacked the french election, but it might not have been russia, it might not have been a hack, and it wasn't the election that was directly affected. Nice clickbait, OP.

[Frank Zipper]

Why do people assume hacking must succeed? It can influence, but it certainly does not guarantee success.

Why do people assume that hacking took place in the first place?.

Why would anybody doubt it? Every major player in world politics is investing massively in cyber 'warfare' capability and are clearly using it to try and influence the state of the world. It is certainly hard to prove who is responsible for what, but to assume it is not happening is just foolish.

[Aurilius]

Why do people assume that hacking took place in the first place? We know that documents were leaked, but the actual election? You have no evidence of that.

So Russia just hacked the french election, but it might not have been russia, it might not have been a hack, and it wasn't the election that was directly affected. Nice clickbait, OP.

Well, we all needed our daily dose of anti Russian propaganda.

[Central Asian Republics]

Why do people assume that hacking took place in the first place?.

Why would anybody doubt it? Every major player in world politics is investing massively in cyber 'warfare' capability and are clearly using it to try and influence the state of the world. It is certainly hard to prove who is responsible for what, but to assume it is not happening is just foolish.

I doubt it because I require evidence to believe in something, to assume that it's happening without evidence is just foolish.

[Frank Zipper]

Why would anybody doubt it? Every major player in world politics is investing massively in cyber 'warfare' capability and are clearly using it to try and influence the state of the world. It is certainly hard to prove who is responsible for what, but to assume it is not happening is just foolish.

I doubt it because I require evidence to believe in something, to assume that it's happening without evidence is just foolish.

Do you believe that Russia has cyber warfare capability?

[Central Asian Republics]

I doubt it because I require evidence to believe in something, to assume that it's happening without evidence is just foolish.

Do you believe that Russia has cyber warfare capability?

Yes, I believe most countries with a competent security agency has cyber warfare capabilities, what's your point? Is it "oh they're capable of doing it so they must have done it"?

[The Grene Knyght]

I doubt it because I require evidence to believe in something, to assume that it's happening without evidence is just foolish.

Do you believe that Russia has cyber warfare capability?

Personally, I don't doubt the possibility that a hack took place, nor do I doubt it may have been the russians. But I also don't doubt the possibility that this leak came from within the campaign. Both situations are equally possible, as are many others, and there doesn't seem to be much proof either way at the moment.

[Frank Zipper]

Do you believe that Russia has cyber warfare capability?

Yes, I believe most countries with a competent security agency has cyber warfare capabilities, what's your point? Is it "oh they're capable of doing it so they must have done it"?

No that isn't my point. What do you believe they have that capability for?

[Central Asian Republics]

Yes, I believe most countries with a competent security agency has cyber warfare capabilities, what's your point? Is it "oh they're capable of doing it so they must have done it"?

No that isn't my point. What do you believe they have that capability for?

I could ask the same for any other country with a competent security agency. Again, what is your point? Is it "oh they're capable of doing it so they must have done it"?

[Frank Zipper]

No that isn't my point. What do you believe they have that capability for?

I could ask the same for any other country with a competent security agency. Again, what is your point? Is it "oh they're capable of doing it so they must have done it"?

I don't think 'must have done it' or 'must not have done it' are appropriate positions in this debate.

[Saiwania]

This help didn't arrive soon enough. I really wanted this dirt on Macron to really swing the French election to Le Pen. I had high hopes for this.

[Central Asian Republics]

I could ask the same for any other country with a competent security agency. Again, what is your point? Is it "oh they're capable of doing it so they must have done it"?

I don't think 'must have done it' or 'must not have done it' are appropriate positions in this debate.

I don't think so either, my point is that you have no clue whether they have hacked the election or not.

[The Grene Knyght]

This help didn't arrive soon enough. I really wanted this dirt on Macron to really swing the French election to Le Pen. I had high hopes for this.

What specific dirt would that be? Other than a poor reflection on his cyber security?