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What if a liberal vs conservative civil war broke out in USA

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Who do you think would win?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 06, 2017 9:45 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Yep, conservatives still gloating about Whack-A-Hippy.


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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sat May 06, 2017 9:46 pm

Narnia and his gang would make a lot of money.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sat May 06, 2017 9:48 pm

There would be no winner. Our liberals complain about the dehumanization of Russians when the topic of nukes are brought up. They won't have the stomach to commit to decisive action that would end the war in the opening days (not to say they wouldn't start bad things later, it would take time for them to build up to that point). The conservatives wouldn't have the manpower to take the cities outright and it would bog down into siege warfare. Manufacturing is extremely decentralized these days, its not like you can flip a refrigerator factory into making bombs like you used to in the old days. It also isn't concentrated in cities either. t. worked in CNC Control of that would be irrelevant as the supply lines and chains would be all broken up/worthless. Foreigners would get involved tossing guns and ammo out like candy. Some foreign power would seize our nuclear weapons for certain as those can't be allowed to be floating about. Like jackals, the world would circle and make a feast of us. Balkanization with bandit militias everywhere is the best case scenario.
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Postby Neo Balka » Sat May 06, 2017 9:50 pm

The East Marches II wrote:There would be no winner. Our liberals complain about the dehumanization of Russians when the topic of nukes are brought up. They won't have the stomach to commit to decisive action that would end the war in the opening days (not to say they wouldn't start bad things later, it would take time for them to build up to that point). The conservatives wouldn't have the manpower to take the cities outright and it would bog down into siege warfare. Manufacturing is extremely decentralized these days, its not like you can flip a refrigerator factory into making bombs like you used to in the old days. It also isn't concentrated in cities either. t. worked in CNC Control of that would be irrelevant as the supply lines and chains would be all broken up/worthless. Foreigners would get involved tossing guns and ammo out like candy. Some foreign power would seize our nuclear weapons for certain as those can't be allowed to be floating about. Like jackals, the world would circle and make a feast of us. Balkanization with bandit militias everywhere is the best case scenario.


Balkanization eh?

we shall claim the midwest as a free republic until things are not fucked up.
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Postby Minzerland II » Sat May 06, 2017 9:58 pm

The Conservatives have Based Stickman last I heard. Just saying.
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 07, 2017 12:14 am

Minzerland II wrote:The Conservatives have Based Stickman last I heard. Just saying.


A real one man army he is.

and we have that one guy who punched out Moldylocks.
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Postby Minzerland II » Sun May 07, 2017 12:18 am

Neo Balka wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:The Conservatives have Based Stickman last I heard. Just saying.


A real one man army he is.

and we have that one guy who punched out Moldylocks.

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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 07, 2017 12:18 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
A real one man army he is.

and we have that one guy who punched out Moldylocks.

National heroes who deserve medals of honour.


damn right.
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Postby Route Fourteen » Sun May 07, 2017 12:22 am

Most likely the conservative forces would win compared to the liberals. But others such as myself would use such situation to our advantage :^).
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Postby Montchevre » Sun May 07, 2017 8:11 am

Gauthier wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
i was the happiest 3 year old in the county.

3 years old and able to shitpost online. What a talent.

And still going strong with a pepe flag.
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Postby Montchevre » Sun May 07, 2017 8:15 am

Montchevre wrote:If this is a real conflict, there would be a unified populace that would seize at least some frontier needed for food or power production, just like the Paris Commune did. Plus, most major cities can easily access power sources or international trade, and they would be more able to pay for it given their control of banks, the treasury, most industry, and most valuable technology and service production.

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I never said they would, I said they would seize some frontier necessary for resources. That being said though, I do think that at least some cities would form communes more or less. Definitely not all, but maybe more radical places with easy access to international trade to keep them afloat. Seattle is a candidate, given that they actually elected Kshama Sawant from the Socialist Alternative party.
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Postby Oldenfranck » Sun May 07, 2017 8:56 am

Sareva wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:The conservatives. God that would be the most terrible thing to happen to our country in our history...

No, I would personally believe that not to be the case, but sure, conservatives are all evul and stuff.


I meant the occurrence of another civil war would be the most terrible thing in our history. I knew some SJW would pick this up and misinterpret it.

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Postby Torrocca » Sun May 07, 2017 9:02 am

Oldenfranck wrote:
Sareva wrote:No, I would personally believe that not to be the case, but sure, conservatives are all evul and stuff.


I meant the occurrence of another civil war would be the most terrible thing in our history. I knew some SJW would pick this up and misinterpret it.


When you're as ambiguous as that, it's really not hard at all to misinterpret.
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Postby Tekeristan » Sun May 07, 2017 10:13 am

Neo Balka wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:There would be no winner. Our liberals complain about the dehumanization of Russians when the topic of nukes are brought up. They won't have the stomach to commit to decisive action that would end the war in the opening days (not to say they wouldn't start bad things later, it would take time for them to build up to that point). The conservatives wouldn't have the manpower to take the cities outright and it would bog down into siege warfare. Manufacturing is extremely decentralized these days, its not like you can flip a refrigerator factory into making bombs like you used to in the old days. It also isn't concentrated in cities either. t. worked in CNC Control of that would be irrelevant as the supply lines and chains would be all broken up/worthless. Foreigners would get involved tossing guns and ammo out like candy. Some foreign power would seize our nuclear weapons for certain as those can't be allowed to be floating about. Like jackals, the world would circle and make a feast of us. Balkanization with bandit militias everywhere is the best case scenario.


Balkanization eh?

we shall claim the midwest as a free republic until things are not fucked up.

Leave my homeland of Minnesota alone!

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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Sun May 07, 2017 10:13 am

The wealthier, more populated, more industrialized side, obviously. Why is this a question that needs serious debate again?
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Neo Balka
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 07, 2017 10:39 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
Balkanization eh?

we shall claim the midwest as a free republic until things are not fucked up.

Leave my homeland of Minnesota alone!



Oh no NO! NO!! Our fatherland must be bigger!

What is the fatherland of a Midwesterner?

is it the Ohio?
Is it Indiana?
Is it Michigan? where the beaches hold hidden beauty?

Oh no! NO! NO!

Our fatherland must be bigger!
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 07, 2017 12:18 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Tekeristan wrote:Leave my homeland of Minnesota alone!



Oh no NO! NO!! Our fatherland must be bigger!

What is the fatherland of a Midwesterner?

is it the Ohio?
Is it Indiana?
Is it Michigan? where the beaches hold hidden beauty?

Oh no! NO! NO!

Our fatherland must be bigger!


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Bayan Principalities
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Postby Bayan Principalities » Sun May 07, 2017 1:54 pm

Liberals, simply because the international reaction would certainly be on the side of liberals. In addition, conservatives are too uneducated to be able to capture large cities with large liberal populations.

Ultimately, the war would end up looking more like a failed conservative revolt than a collapse of society.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sun May 07, 2017 2:04 pm

Bayan Principalities wrote:Liberals, simply because the international reaction would certainly be on the side of liberals. In addition, conservatives are too uneducated to be able to capture large cities with large liberal populations.

Ultimately, the war would end up looking more like a failed conservative revolt than a collapse of society.


And now we get the conservatives are uneducated BS. Seriously the only point of this thread seems to throw out stupid stereotypes.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 07, 2017 2:50 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Bayan Principalities wrote:Liberals, simply because the international reaction would certainly be on the side of liberals. In addition, conservatives are too uneducated to be able to capture large cities with large liberal populations.

Ultimately, the war would end up looking more like a failed conservative revolt than a collapse of society.


And now we get the conservatives are uneducated BS. Seriously the only point of this thread seems to throw out stupid stereotypes.

And whoever throws the hardest, wins!
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Postby Aurilius » Sun May 07, 2017 2:59 pm

Bayan Principalities wrote:Liberals, simply because the international reaction would certainly be on the side of liberals. In addition, conservatives are too uneducated to be able to capture large cities with large liberal populations.

Ultimately, the war would end up looking more like a failed conservative revolt than a collapse of society.


Conservatives, Liberals are all whiny, skinny teenagers. While the conservatives have been playing with, and collecting guns since childhood. Liberals would all surrender in a day.'

I can stereotype too

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Postby Roosevetania » Sun May 07, 2017 3:00 pm

Conservatives, definitely. Conservatives are less hesitant to go to war; they own more guns; and no offense to anyone, but conservatives tend to be less compassionate.
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Postby Escape from Trump » Sun May 07, 2017 3:06 pm

It's going on right now.We call it "politics".
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Englar Empire
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Postby Englar Empire » Sun May 07, 2017 3:15 pm

Conservatives have guns. Liberals have flowers. Who do you think wins?

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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 07, 2017 3:18 pm

Englar Empire wrote:Conservatives have guns. Liberals have flowers. Who do you think wins?

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