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Lady Scylla
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu May 04, 2017 7:12 am

Ashmoria wrote:
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Clearly the Church is anti-freedom.

of course it is.

you are supposed to submit to the will of god (as interpreted by the church) the Church


Let's not kid ourselves. :p

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 04, 2017 7:12 am

Calladan wrote:
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It allows people to choose who they serve, which I don't have a whole ton of issue with myself. Though I do recognize the problems that could cause.

Yay for being in the middle and not caring either way.


But does it extend to members of local, state and the federal government(s)?


No idea.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 04, 2017 7:12 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Clearly the Church is anti-freedom.

of course it is.

you are supposed to submit to the will of god (as interpreted by the church)

You know I was just reading this bullshit about how the Catholic Church was very libertarian in nature
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 7:12 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Most abortions are not medically necessary; however, they are elective.


Clearly the Church is anti-freedom.

Yes, we are, because it is freedom which causes evil.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu May 04, 2017 7:13 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Clearly the Church is anti-freedom.

Yes, we are, because it is freedom which causes evil.


Yet evil is where it seeks to end freedom.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 04, 2017 7:13 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Clearly the Church is anti-freedom.

Yes, we are, because it is freedom which causes evil.

Cuz Tyranny never causes evil
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Postby Gauthier » Thu May 04, 2017 7:14 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Clearly the Church is anti-freedom.

Yes, we are, because it is freedom which causes evil.

Why Do You Hate Freedom?
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu May 04, 2017 7:14 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:of course it is.

you are supposed to submit to the will of god (as interpreted by the church) the Church


Let's not kid ourselves. :p


*shrug* they have justifications.

why WE should be subjected to the will of the church, I don't know.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 7:14 am

Gauthier wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yes, we are, because it is freedom which causes evil.

Why Do You Hate Freedom?

As I said, freedom causes evil.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu May 04, 2017 7:15 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Why Do You Hate Freedom?

As I said, freedom causes evil.


The Romans had a phrase about this.

Sic semper tyrannis.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu May 04, 2017 7:15 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:of course it is.

you are supposed to submit to the will of god (as interpreted by the church)

You know I was just reading this bullshit about how the Catholic Church was very libertarian in nature


what did they mean by that?
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Postby Sareva » Thu May 04, 2017 7:16 am

Another thread about TRUMP IS BAD.


/sigh
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 04, 2017 7:16 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Why Do You Hate Freedom?

As I said, freedom causes evil.

And as I said, tyranny has never led to evil?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu May 04, 2017 7:16 am

Sareva wrote:Another thread about TRUMP IS BAD.


/sigh


Another poster complaining.

/sigh


I can do this too.

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Postby Corrian » Thu May 04, 2017 7:17 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Calladan wrote:
So what does this incredibly divisive executive order do then? If not enshrine religious bigotry into law?


It allows people to choose who they serve, which I don't have a whole ton of issue with myself. Though I do recognize the problems that could cause.

Yay for being in the middle and not caring either way.

And we know what will happen if its allowed: Business does so and it will be a big news story on those random shitty websites like Distractify, and spread like widlfire through the Internet and the business will have bad publicity.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 04, 2017 7:17 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:You know I was just reading this bullshit about how the Catholic Church was very libertarian in nature


what did they mean by that?

Honestly I've been publicizing since I read it. It was a blurb from a US Libertarian
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu May 04, 2017 7:17 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Why Do You Hate Freedom?

As I said, freedom causes evil.

evil is in the eye of the beholder.
whatever

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 7:17 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:As I said, freedom causes evil.

And as I said, tyranny has never led to evil?

Autocracy, when wielded righteously, can lead to many good things. Freedom for the individual invariably leads to evil, such as the hundreds-of-thousands of abortions that are performed annually, mostly for elective reasons.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu May 04, 2017 7:18 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
what did they mean by that?

Honestly I've been publicizing since I read it. It was a blurb from a US Libertarian

if I asked you to give me a link would it be too awful to read?
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Postby Sareva » Thu May 04, 2017 7:18 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Sareva wrote:Another thread about TRUMP IS BAD.


/sigh


Another poster complaining.

/sigh


I can do this too.

Let's /sigh together, Scylla.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 04, 2017 7:19 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:And as I said, tyranny has never led to evil?

Autocracy, when wielded righteously, can lead to many good things. Freedom for the individual invariably leads to evil, such as the hundreds-of-thousands of abortions that are performed annually, mostly for elective reasons.

And yet autocracies lead to mass killings, and many of these things still happening in secrete
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 04, 2017 7:19 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Honestly I've been publicizing since I read it. It was a blurb from a US Libertarian

if I asked you to give me a link would it be too awful to read?

I'd have to find it, hang on
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu May 04, 2017 7:20 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:And as I said, tyranny has never led to evil?

Autocracy, when wielded righteously, can lead to many good things. Freedom for the individual invariably leads to evil, such as the hundreds-of-thousands of abortions that are performed annually, mostly for elective reasons.


yeah a great boon to humanity is evil. it would be so much less evil if women were forced to bear children they don't want, cant take care of or are too sick to ever lead an independent life.
whatever

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 7:20 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Autocracy, when wielded righteously, can lead to many good things. Freedom for the individual invariably leads to evil, such as the hundreds-of-thousands of abortions that are performed annually, mostly for elective reasons.

And yet autocracies lead to mass killings, and many of these things still happening in secrete

Abortions = mass killings
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 7:20 am

Ashmoria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Autocracy, when wielded righteously, can lead to many good things. Freedom for the individual invariably leads to evil, such as the hundreds-of-thousands of abortions that are performed annually, mostly for elective reasons.


yeah a great boon to humanity is evil. it would be so much less evil if women were forced to bear children they don't want, cant take care of or are too sick to ever lead an independent life.

We have the money to provide for those children. The reason we allow them to be killed is because they are inconvenient to us.
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