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Postby Liriena » Thu May 25, 2017 4:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Is the net closing in on Trump?

Maybe. Who knows what will come out of this?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 25, 2017 4:38 pm

:blush:
Corrian wrote:

So there are at least 4 or 5 people that should go down if/when Trump goes down too at this rate.

Fingers crossed that Pence is number 6 somehow.

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Postby Olerand » Thu May 25, 2017 4:40 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ism wrote:
Yeah. The last guy had some tact at least.

All this one's screeching makes me want to do is read some erotic literature with interracial romance in it. x3

Why do so many derogatory racial words in the English language sound like baby speak? Genuinely, it's not a joke on racists being infantile, but all of those words are... like a baby attempting to form something.
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Olerand wrote:
Liriena wrote:All this one's screeching makes me want to do is read some erotic literature with interracial romance in it. x3

Why do so many derogatory racial words in the English language sound like baby speak? Genuinely, it's not a joke on racists being infantile, but all of those words are... like a baby attempting to form something.

*shrug*
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 4:40 pm

Genivaria wrote::blush:
Corrian wrote:So there are at least 4 or 5 people that should go down if/when Trump goes down too at this rate.

Fingers crossed that Pence is number 6 somehow.

Ryan and Mcturtle should be numbers 7 and 8
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Thu May 25, 2017 4:42 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Just ignore him. He's DOS


My apologies, I am responding out of habit.

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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 25, 2017 4:42 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That's insane. :blink:

Also inaccurate.

But the Sweden boogeyman pays more dividends when you don't care too much about the facts.

That's a direct quote from a Wikipedia article that links the Swedish penal code; now, of course, these links are dead, so I found a relatively up-to-date version, in the original Swedish.

The relevant part, that is, Chapter 16 Section 8, roughly translated to this:

Swedish Penal Code wrote:The person in the statement or communication, spread, threatens or expresses contempt for a national, ethnic or other such group of persons with allusion to race, color, national or ethnic origin, religious belief or sexual orientation, shall be sentenced for incitement to imprisonment not exceeding two years or if the crime is petty, to a fine.

Serious offense shall be sentenced to imprisonment for between six months and four years. In assessing whether the offense is grave, should be considered especially if the message had a particularly menacing or offensive content, and spread to a large number of people in a way that was likely to cause significant attention. Act (2002: 800).


So, no, it's not inaccurate. Hate speech laws in Sweden do include the "expression of contempt".
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Postby Calladan » Thu May 25, 2017 4:43 pm

Olerand wrote:
Liriena wrote:All this one's screeching makes me want to do is read some erotic literature with interracial romance in it. x3

Why do so many derogatory racial words in the English language sound like baby speak? Genuinely, it's not a joke on racists being infantile, but all of those words are... like a baby attempting to form something.


Think about the intelligence level of the people who use them and who had to invent them. (And yes - that IS an insult to racists, before you ask!)
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Postby Corrian » Thu May 25, 2017 4:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Corrian wrote:So there are at least 4 or 5 people that should go down if/when Trump goes down too at this rate.

Watergate toolk down 60 something people, let's try and beat that record

60? Really? Holy shit.

Well, so far Pence may already know stuff too due to being a part of the transition team
Jeff Sessions doesn't properly disclose his meetings with Russia
Kushner is tied up in this somehow.
Trump is pretty much a walking conflict of interest from the get go, obstruction of justice, and potentially Russian ties added on.
Michael Flynn is pretty obviously going down.

Who else?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 4:53 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Watergate toolk down 60 something people, let's try and beat that record

60? Really? Holy shit.

Well, so far Pence may already know stuff too due to being a part of the transition team
Jeff Sessions doesn't properly disclose his meetings with Russia
Kushner is tied up in this somehow.
Trump is pretty much a walking conflict of interest from the get go, obstruction of justice, and potentially Russian ties added on.
Michael Flynn is pretty obviously going down.

Who else?

Granted many of those where staff and FBI and CIA agents
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Thu May 25, 2017 4:55 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Watergate toolk down 60 something people, let's try and beat that record

60? Really? Holy shit.

Well, so far Pence may already know stuff too due to being a part of the transition team
Jeff Sessions doesn't properly disclose his meetings with Russia
Kushner is tied up in this somehow.
Trump is pretty much a walking conflict of interest from the get go, obstruction of justice, and potentially Russian ties added on.
Michael Flynn is pretty obviously going down.

Who else?

It will be much easier to impeach Trump than Pence.
The GOP would be perfectly happy with Pence as President, and another sane Republican (Portman? Ryan? Rubio?) as his VP.

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Postby Ghategen » Thu May 25, 2017 4:57 pm

When you read all these pages and just see all the trump bashing. Would you of rather Clinton won? Both sucked trump just sucked least.

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Postby Calladan » Thu May 25, 2017 4:57 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Watergate toolk down 60 something people, let's try and beat that record

60? Really? Holy shit.

Well, so far Pence may already know stuff too due to being a part of the transition team
Jeff Sessions doesn't properly disclose his meetings with Russia
Kushner is tied up in this somehow.
Trump is pretty much a walking conflict of interest from the get go, obstruction of justice, and potentially Russian ties added on.
Michael Flynn is pretty obviously going down.

Who else?


Well I would guess if her husband and her father are asked to leave, Ivanka is probably not staying on much longer, whether is indicted or not.
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Postby Calladan » Thu May 25, 2017 4:58 pm

Ghategen wrote:When you read all these pages and just see all the trump bashing. Would you of rather Clinton won? Both sucked trump just sucked least.


It's a thread about Trump. With Trump's name IN THE TITLE. What did you think this would be about? The weather???????
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Postby Ghategen » Thu May 25, 2017 5:01 pm

Calladan wrote:
Ghategen wrote:When you read all these pages and just see all the trump bashing. Would you of rather Clinton won? Both sucked trump just sucked least.


It's a thread about Trump. With Trump's name IN THE TITLE. What did you think this would be about? The weather???????


In all honesty man i was excepting less trump bashing then there is. This is more toxic than breitbart.

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Postby Gravlen » Thu May 25, 2017 5:02 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Also inaccurate.

But the Sweden boogeyman pays more dividends when you don't care too much about the facts.

That's a direct quote from a Wikipedia article that links the Swedish penal code; now, of course, these links are dead, so I found a relatively up-to-date version, in the original Swedish.

The relevant part, that is, Chapter 16 Section 8, roughly translated to this:

Swedish Penal Code wrote:The person in the statement or communication, spread, threatens or expresses contempt for a national, ethnic or other such group of persons with allusion to race, color, national or ethnic origin, religious belief or sexual orientation, shall be sentenced for incitement to imprisonment not exceeding two years or if the crime is petty, to a fine.

Serious offense shall be sentenced to imprisonment for between six months and four years. In assessing whether the offense is grave, should be considered especially if the message had a particularly menacing or offensive content, and spread to a large number of people in a way that was likely to cause significant attention. Act (2002: 800).


So, no, it's not inaccurate. Hate speech laws in Sweden do include the "expression of contempt".

It's inaccurate because you're ignoring the written, stated intentions of the lawmakers, an important source for interpreting Swedish laws. You're also ignoring how the law has been interpreted by the Swedish Supreme Court and is used by the Swedish criminal courts. In addition, you didn't mention the European Convention of Human Rights, which further limits it's application.

In short, far from all "expressions of contempt" fall under the law. Hence, inaccurate.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 25, 2017 5:03 pm

Ghategen wrote:When you read all these pages and just see all the trump bashing. Would you of rather Clinton won? Both sucked trump just sucked least.

Aw, poor Trump, getting criticized for being a man-child. "Please stop reminding me of the failures of the man I voted in =((((("
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Postby Ghategen » Thu May 25, 2017 5:04 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Ghategen wrote:When you read all these pages and just see all the trump bashing. Would you of rather Clinton won? Both sucked trump just sucked least.

Aw, poor Trump, getting criticized for being a man-child. "Please stop reminding me of the failures of the man I voted in =((((("


Trump being criticized is ok. Hating him to hate him is another matter. Also speaking of that arnt the left suppose to be the loving part of the political spectrum

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Postby Astrolinium » Thu May 25, 2017 5:06 pm

Ghategen wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Aw, poor Trump, getting criticized for being a man-child. "Please stop reminding me of the failures of the man I voted in =((((("


Trump being criticized is ok. Hating him to hate him is another matter. Also speaking of that arnt the left suppose to be the loving part of the political spectrum


That's precisely why the left opposes Trump. His policies thus far have been policies of exclusion, of indifference, and of corrupt self-interest.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu May 25, 2017 5:07 pm

Ghategen wrote:When you read all these pages and just see all the trump bashing. Would you of rather Clinton won? Both sucked trump just sucked least.

Yes we mustn't criticize the Dear Leader for being an inexperienced, incompetent, lying narcissist who has already repeatedly embarrassed our nation. Any press coverage of his glaring mistakes is obviously fake news. The Immortal Emperor doesn't make mistakes.
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Postby Ghategen » Thu May 25, 2017 5:09 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Ghategen wrote:
Trump being criticized is ok. Hating him to hate him is another matter. Also speaking of that arnt the left suppose to be the loving part of the political spectrum


That's precisely why the left opposes Trump. His policies thus far have been policies of exclusion, of indifference, and of corrupt self-interest.


His policies so far haven't been that bad some of them arnt great but at least he's attempting to deal with illegals and preventing terrorist from entering the country.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 25, 2017 5:09 pm

Ghategen wrote:Trump being criticized is ok. Hating him to hate him is another matter.

Get over the persecution complex. Trump may think that he's hated for no other reason than to hate him, and may spew that nonsense to his followers, but the truth is that he gives plenty of reasons to hate him - and seems to add more with each passing day.

Also speaking of that arnt the left suppose to be the loving part of the political spectrum

No.
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