Trump MAGAthread VI

by **Maineiacs** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:28 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well this doesn't look good for Trump

If true Trump just one upped Clinton (assuming of course the classified email thing is correct) since he actively revealed classified material, while she did not.

Actively, and maybe intentionally. Although it may have been through ignorance.

by **Thermodolia** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:30 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:If true Trump just one upped Clinton (assuming of course the classified email thing is correct) since he actively revealed classified material, while she did not.

Actively, and maybe intentionally. Although it may have been through ignorance.

Ignorantia juris non excusat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoran ... on_excusat

by **Neutraligon** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:30 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:If true Trump just one upped Clinton (assuming of course the classified email thing is correct) since he actively revealed classified material, while she did not.

Actively, and maybe intentionally. Although it may have been through ignorance.

I guess it depends what you mean by intentionally. One can reveal things intentionally but do so because of ignorance (namely not being aware of or thinking about the consequences).

by **Great Nepal** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:30 pm

Corrian wrote:Also, why on EARTH is it so hard for people to grasp the basic concept of not being a fan of Comey but not remotely liking the circumstances that he was fired under? Its not rocket science.

Probably the same line of reasoning that results people thinking "oh look Muslims believe in some crap" is legitimate criticism to opposition in religious discrimination. X does Y, you don't like Y therefore you must hate X and cheer whenever bad thing happens to X - to do otherwise is obviously hypocritical.

Thermodolia wrote:Well this doesn't look good for Trump

Wow, he talks in same manner when in private as he does in public... I don't know why, this is such an obvious thing but still surprises me.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Corrian wrote:I saw this pop up because for some reason the Washington Post pops up on my computer. I read it and was like "The fuck?". That is NOT good.

And it's not looking good for republicans that refuse to appoint a special prosecutor. A new poll by Quinnipiac says the the American people want the democrats in charge of the house by a 16 point margin. https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/u ... 2prfb.pdf/

How the fuck does 44% approve of his handling of North Korea?

Also, ugh, his approval going UP after Syria?

Like come on...Its so blatantly how shitty all of these are handled. Warhawks or not, there is handling it well and handling it just to try to boost yourself.

by **Neutraligon** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Apparently Trump just expanded the gag order about abortion in foreign aid to include all NGOs that offer health programs, meaning those that offer help for things like HIV or Zika. https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/05/270866.htm

by **Thermodolia** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:41 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And it's not looking good for republicans that refuse to appoint a special prosecutor. A new poll by Quinnipiac says the the American people want the democrats in charge of the house by a 16 point margin. https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/u ... 2prfb.pdf/

How the fuck does 44% approve of his handling of North Korea?

Also, ugh, his approval going UP after Syria?

Like come on...Its so blatantly how shitty all of these are handled. Warhawks or not, there is handling it well and handling it just to try to boost yourself.

Apparently in America all you need to do to get a high approval rating is to bomb the shit out of some random county

by **New haven america** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Well this doesn't look good for Trump

I guess treason is OKIYAR.

by **Thermodolia** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:45 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well this doesn't look good for Trump

I guess treason is OKIYAR.

The chickens will come home to roost soon enough

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Apparently in America all you need to do to get a high approval rating is to bomb the shit out of some random county

Doesn't matter if we do it intelligently.

Like, have we learned ANYTHING from the Bush years? I really thought we did. I guess Americans are still not as weary about unnecessary wars as I thought after that...Because I know the opinions on bombing everything went way down with how the Iraq war dragged on and on and on...

Just ugh.

by **New haven america** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Corrian wrote:How the fuck does 44% approve of his handling of North Korea?

Also, ugh, his approval going UP after Syria?

Like come on...Its so blatantly how shitty all of these are handled. Warhawks or not, there is handling it well and handling it just to try to boost yourself.

Apparently in America all you need to do to get a high approval rating is to bomb the shit out of some random county

I mean, take a look at America's war history.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:47 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Apparently Trump just expanded the gag order about abortion in foreign aid to include all NGOs that offer health programs, meaning those that offer help for things like HIV or Zika. https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/05/270866.htm

Jesus Christ.

by **Ifreann** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:If true Trump just one upped Clinton (assuming of course the classified email thing is correct) since he actively revealed classified material, while she did not.

It's going to take years before our allies trust us again.

Impeaching Trump would help.

by **Thermodolia** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:48 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Apparently in America all you need to do to get a high approval rating is to bomb the shit out of some random county

Doesn't matter if we do it intelligently.

Like, have we learned ANYTHING from the Bush years? I really thought we did. I guess Americans are still not as weary about unnecessary wars as I thought after that...Because I know the opinions on bombing everything went way down with how the Iraq war dragged on and on and on...

Just ugh.

But it's a new country!! We are like the high school girl that jumps from one bad boyfriend to another thinking that this time things will be different

by **New haven america** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's going to take years before our allies trust us again.

Impeaching Trump would help.

Yes, but then we'd get Pence.

Honestly, a political revolution seems actually desirable at this point.

by **Sane Outcasts** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's going to take years before our allies trust us again.

Impeaching Trump would help.

Everyone's too afraid of his tapes, it'll never happen.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
New haven america wrote:I guess treason is OKIYAR.

The chickens will come home to roost soon enough

I like how we learn about what was in a closed door meeting anyway. Like what.

Lemme guess, this is why it was closed doors...

by **Ifreann** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Impeaching Trump would help.

Yes, but then we'd get Pence.

Honestly, a political revolution seems actually desirable at this point.

Bad as Pence would be, I dare say he can keep a secret.

by **The East Marches II** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Corrian wrote:How the fuck does 44% approve of his handling of North Korea?

Also, ugh, his approval going UP after Syria?

Like come on...Its so blatantly how shitty all of these are handled. Warhawks or not, there is handling it well and handling it just to try to boost yourself.

Apparently in America all you need to do to get a high approval rating is to bomb the shit out of some random county

Blame the American public my man. Bombing people is always good for ratings.

by **Thermodolia** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:52 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The chickens will come home to roost soon enough

I like how we learn about what was in a closed door meeting anyway. Like what.

Lemme guess, this is why it was closed doors...

Well the Russian media was let in, so... It's wasn't exactly closed doors just closed to the American public. Ya know the ones that actually matter

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:52 pm

Sane Outcasts wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Impeaching Trump would help.

Everyone's too afraid of his tapes, it'll never happen.

I love how he said Obama was wiretapping him, now he's pretty much saying he wiretapped himself to wiretap others?

But I still currently believe the tapes don't even exist.

Ifreann wrote:Bad as Pence would be, I dare say he can keep a secret.

I also feel like we could reasonably push back on him without him saying one thing one day, and something else the next, and just being completely unhinged. I'd rather competent terrible for a while then all over the damn place terrible.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Well the Russian media was let in, so... It's wasn't exactly closed doors just closed to the American public. Ya know the ones that actually matter

Yuuup...

by **Neutraligon** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:55 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well the Russian media was let in, so... It's wasn't exactly closed doors just closed to the American public. Ya know the ones that actually matter

Yuuup...

Which means that the Russian media know about this classified information.... Shit

by **Thermodolia** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:57 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yuuup...

Which means that the Russian media know about this classified information.... Shit

And McConnell still won't approve of a special investigator. What is McConnell hiding?!

by **Neutraligon** » Mon May 15, 2017 3:00 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Which means that the Russian media know about this classified information.... Shit

And McConnell still won't approve of a special investigator. What is McConnell hiding?!

Unfortunately since he is the president and the president can declassify things this might be legal.

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