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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:50 pm

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Liriena wrote:As far as I know, the Toronto Star does not have a reputation for being extremely unethical and inflammatory.


"and that allows me to be a hypocrite and attack YOUR sources! hah! *snort*"

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Not an actual quote of mine. Very rude of you to make one up.
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:50 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
KrakenCo wrote:
"and that allows me to be a hypocrite and attack YOUR sources! hah! *snort*"

:clap:

(tread lightly mate, mods no likey)

Your persecution complex is duly noted.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon May 01, 2017 4:51 pm

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Liriena wrote:In Afghanistan, to kill a couple dozen people.
For reference, the bulk of their territory and manpower is concentrated in Syria and Iraq.


The Republicans have a majority in both houses, so why are you complaining about the Democrats?


First, the MOAB bombing is atleast a stepping stone in his promise to wipe out ISIS.

Lemme rephrase and use a more general term. "Hes trying to repeal the disaster that is ObamaCare. If people wouldn't get in the way and stop obstructing it, then use "HES NOT REPEALING OBAMACARE" as an argument, maybe he would actually get it done."


So democratic checks and balances are bad? :eyebrow:

Also how does blowing up a mountain in the wrong country help to defeat ISIS?
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:51 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:(tread lightly mate, mods no likey)


Most mods on here are leftists anyways.

[citation needed] for that whining.
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Postby KrakenCo » Mon May 01, 2017 4:51 pm

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Have you even read the article ? The man is ignorant as a potato farmer. he doesn't know !@#$, and it shows. Can you say that Obama was worse then him and give me a couple examples ?

I actually have been reading through it. Most of it that I've read is basically, "he's kind of right, except he was off by x figures" or "he's embellishing the truth", other than his history statements, which don't really matter, and “I’ve done more than any other president in the first 100 days”, which is pretty laughable.

For Obama, "you can keep your doctors" and the red line would be on the top of his list. But I'm not even talking exclusively about Obama here, all politicians embellish the truth, they promise things they can't fulfill, they promise they don't lie, and some politicians even outright lie to the American people. The same is true for Trump, which is why I said "it's par for the course". Of course Trump is somewhat of a liar, but why should you act like Obama, or any other politician, is not somewhat of a liar?


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Postby Gauthier » Mon May 01, 2017 4:51 pm

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Pretty sure that wasn't torpedoed by his own party. :roll:

Like this is supposed to be an insult against Trump?

The Republicans have complete control of the government and still own-goaled themselves on trying to repeal and replace Obamacare.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon May 01, 2017 4:51 pm

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Germanic Templars wrote:Better than the 8 years Obama tried shutting down Guantanamo bay. ;p


Pretty sure that wasn't torpedoed by his own party. :roll:


Regardless there, young blood, trying to judge Trump in the first 100 days and saying he is doing a shit job is like trying to judge the Rome on not being an empire during it's monarchy days. You know when they were still stuck to the book..

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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon May 01, 2017 4:52 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Not very well due to outside interference. Even you can admit that Trump is trying his best but the Paul Ryan camp is blocking him

The Republican Speaker of the House is "outside interference"? Weird definition of the term you must be working under...

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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon May 01, 2017 4:53 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:Like this is supposed to be an insult against Trump?

The Republicans have complete control of the government and still own-goaled themselves on trying to repeal and replace Obamacare.

I wont deny that. They did a shit job in general, especially how they didn't have at least a rough draft weeks in advance. In my opinion, they shouldve written a bill over time, seeing the effects of Obamacare as time went on and writing how to fix it on paper then and there.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon May 01, 2017 4:53 pm

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Germanic Templars wrote:Better than the 8 years Obama tried shutting down Guantanamo bay. ;p

Nice try deflecting. We're talking about Trump in his own right, and if you cannot defend him in his own right that's your problem.


Just saying that I'd you are gonna criticize Trump for not doing everything he promised the first 100 days, perhaps try not to come off as a snarky ass about it, that way people like me won't have to remind you about the folk you voted for... Twice. XD

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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon May 01, 2017 4:54 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:(tread lightly mate, mods no likey)

Your persecution complex is duly noted.

¿Que?
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:55 pm

KrakenCo wrote:
Liriena wrote:In Afghanistan, to kill a couple dozen people.
For reference, the bulk of their territory and manpower is concentrated in Syria and Iraq.


The Republicans have a majority in both houses, so why are you complaining about the Democrats?


First, the MOAB bombing is atleast a stepping stone in his promise to wipe out ISIS.

How?

He dropped one obscenely powerful non-nuclear bomb on a couple dozen of people.

What's the strategy there? Obama threw thousands of bombs against ISIS. What's Trump going to do differently?

KrakenCo wrote:Lemme rephrase and use a more general term. "Hes trying to repeal the disaster that is ObamaCare. If people wouldn't get in the way and stop obstructing it, then use "HES NOT REPEALING OBAMACARE" as an argument, maybe he would actually get it done."

He's the president and his party has a majority in both houses, yet the supposed "best negotiator" was incapable of getting even a slim majority in favor of his repeal plan? At what point does it stop being other people's fault?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon May 01, 2017 4:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
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First, the MOAB bombing is atleast a stepping stone in his promise to wipe out ISIS.

How?

He dropped one obscenely powerful non-nuclear bomb on a couple dozen of people.

What's the strategy there? Obama threw thousands of bombs against ISIS. What's Trump going to do differently?

More bombs?
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:57 pm

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Community Values wrote:I actually have been reading through it. Most of it that I've read is basically, "he's kind of right, except he was off by x figures" or "he's embellishing the truth", other than his history statements, which don't really matter, and “I’ve done more than any other president in the first 100 days”, which is pretty laughable.

For Obama, "you can keep your doctors" and the red line would be on the top of his list. But I'm not even talking exclusively about Obama here, all politicians embellish the truth, they promise things they can't fulfill, they promise they don't lie, and some politicians even outright lie to the American people. The same is true for Trump, which is why I said "it's par for the course". Of course Trump is somewhat of a liar, but why should you act like Obama, or any other politician, is not somewhat of a liar?


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Postby Gauthier » Mon May 01, 2017 4:58 pm

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Gauthier wrote:The Republicans have complete control of the government and still own-goaled themselves on trying to repeal and replace Obamacare.

I wont deny that. They did a shit job in general, especially how they didn't have at least a rough draft weeks in advance. In my opinion, they shouldve written a bill over time, seeing the effects of Obamacare as time went on and writing how to fix it on paper then and there.

They had the whole Obama Presidency to draft a replacement bill, but all they know what to do is complain and obstruct. That showed when they won the government and still couldn't pass a replacement bill. Playa Hater's Syndrome.
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:58 pm

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Liriena wrote:Nice try deflecting. We're talking about Trump in his own right, and if you cannot defend him in his own right that's your problem.


Just saying that I'd you are gonna criticize Trump for not doing everything he promised the first 100 days, perhaps try not to come off as a snarky ass about it, that way people like me won't have to remind you about the folk you voted for... Twice. XD

I didn't vote for Obama. I'm not even American. And I have every right to be snarky about it and call you out when you try to deflect and make unfounded assumptions. ;3
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Postby North Dajao » Mon May 01, 2017 4:58 pm

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Liriena wrote:In Afghanistan, to kill a couple dozen people.
For reference, the bulk of their territory and manpower is concentrated in Syria and Iraq.


The Republicans have a majority in both houses, so why are you complaining about the Democrats?


First, the MOAB bombing is atleast a stepping stone in his promise to wipe out ISIS.

Lemme rephrase and use a more general term. "Hes trying to repeal the disaster that is ObamaCare. If people wouldn't get in the way and stop obstructing it, then use "HES NOT REPEALING OBAMACARE" as an argument, maybe he would actually get it done."


He promised that HE would be the one to repeal Obamacare. People obstructing that is called politics.
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from my perspectiv, he didn't lie one bti about what he was going to do to people like me. Actually , he was pretty proud of it, )putting pipelne through nad giving native americans problems), and i think his idea really resonated with a lot of people in the USA.
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Postby KrakenCo » Mon May 01, 2017 4:59 pm

"He dropped one obscenely powerful non-nuclear bomb on a couple dozen of people.

What's the strategy there? Obama threw thousands of bombs against ISIS. What's Trump going to do differently?"


>first time MOAB being used in combat, biggest non nuclear bomb in US arsenal
>kills 100 ISIS fighters

Kind of significant, it IS the first time the MOAB has ever been used in combat.
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 4:59 pm

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Liriena wrote:Your persecution complex is duly noted.

¿Que?

I might have misinterpreted you, but you came across as implying that mods would be biased and probably retaliate against your fellow poster.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon May 01, 2017 5:00 pm

Lincolnopolis wrote:This man lies and doesn't pseak the truth. He has lied so much, that over the 100 days he has told 213 lies.


Your point is? The Average Joe can lie 6 times daily. You also need to measure the magnitude of the said lies. For example, lie 100 times about who robbed grandma's candy is better than lie once about who killed the grandma. There's also the factor that Hillary - the other option - is much more of a liar than Trump.

Lincolnopolis wrote:Can you believe that such an ignorant man has his finger poised on the button to launch nuclear weapons ?


Can you believe Hillary successfully murdered thousands of people in Benghazi? :lol2:

Lincolnopolis wrote:Are you satisfied he is telling you the truth ?


He is one of the least liars when it comes to the political environment, plus he is compromised with achieving what he promised on his campaign. So yea.

Lincolnopolis wrote:Do you think he has done major legislation during his 100 days ?


Tax reform and 75% regulation cut? Hell yea.

Lincolnopolis wrote:Or do you feel he is so wrong that you can't wait to vote him out after four years ?


Better than Clinton. So nope.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 01, 2017 5:00 pm

North Dajao wrote:
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First, the MOAB bombing is atleast a stepping stone in his promise to wipe out ISIS.

Lemme rephrase and use a more general term. "Hes trying to repeal the disaster that is ObamaCare. If people wouldn't get in the way and stop obstructing it, then use "HES NOT REPEALING OBAMACARE" as an argument, maybe he would actually get it done."


He promised that HE would be the one to repeal Obamacare. People obstructing that is called politics.

Then he is stupid because the president does not have the power to repeal Obamacare.
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Postby KrakenCo » Mon May 01, 2017 5:00 pm

North Dajao wrote:
KrakenCo wrote:
First, the MOAB bombing is atleast a stepping stone in his promise to wipe out ISIS.

Lemme rephrase and use a more general term. "Hes trying to repeal the disaster that is ObamaCare. If people wouldn't get in the way and stop obstructing it, then use "HES NOT REPEALING OBAMACARE" as an argument, maybe he would actually get it done."


He promised that HE would be the one to repeal Obamacare. People obstructing that is called politics.


When?
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 01, 2017 5:00 pm

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Liriena wrote:How?

He dropped one obscenely powerful non-nuclear bomb on a couple dozen of people.

What's the strategy there? Obama threw thousands of bombs against ISIS. What's Trump going to do differently?

More bombs?

Goddamn brilliant. Why didn't the Pentagon under Obama think of that?
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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