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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:24 am


This just in: literally everyone alive is a hypocrite sometimes.
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Postby Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:37 am



Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 am

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Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?


People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.
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Postby Maineiacs » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:50 am

Vassenor wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?


People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.



And thank you for that image. :p
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:53 am

Do they think that the assassination of Caesar is the end of the play? Like, is their understanding of the play that the senate killed Julius Caesar and then everything goes super well for all involved?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:54 am

Zanera wrote:


Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?

Are you completely unfamiliar with theater?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:03 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.



And thank you for that image. :p


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Postby Maineiacs » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:06 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

And thank you for that image. :p


I'm serious.



Oh, I get that and you're right, but it sent my mind to places it shouldn't have gone. :lol2:
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:31 pm


The incident was filmed by Jack Posobiec, a rightwing provocateur best known for helping to spread the Pizzagate conspiracy theory. He stood up as Loomer was escorted off stage by security guards and yelled at the crowd: “You are all Goebbels. You are all Nazis like Joseph Goebbels … You are inciting terrorists. The blood of Steve Scalise is on your hands.”

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Postby Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:45 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?


People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.


Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:51 pm

Zanera wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.


Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

:unsure:

People put Shakespeare in different time periods all the time.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:55 pm

Zanera wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.


Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

:unsure:

Theater might be too much for you.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:55 pm

Zanera wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.

Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.


Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

:unsure:

The struggle during Caesar's time was a struggle of the Populares, the much-beloved champions of the people who felt disenfranchised by the political elite, and that political elite in the form of the Optimates, trying to cling to power and preserve the Republic from the monarchical tendencies of the Populares.

So, no parallel with our time whatsoever.
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Postby Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:16 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

:unsure:

The struggle during Caesar's time was a struggle of the Populares, the much-beloved champions of the people who felt disenfranchised by the political elite, and that political elite in the form of the Optimates, trying to cling to power and preserve the Republic from the monarchical tendencies of the Populares.

So, no parallel with our time whatsoever.


So they're putting a romantic theme over the whole 'assassination of Julius Trump'. IDK then, with the Scalise shooting the protester might have a point.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:17 pm

Zanera wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:The struggle during Caesar's time was a struggle of the Populares, the much-beloved champions of the people who felt disenfranchised by the political elite, and that political elite in the form of the Optimates, trying to cling to power and preserve the Republic from the monarchical tendencies of the Populares.

So, no parallel with our time whatsoever.


So they're putting a romantic theme over the whole 'assassination of Julius Trump'. IDK then, with the Scalise shooting the protester might have a point.

Well, no, they just draw parallels. The assassination is obligatory, because it's a rendition of Caesar.
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Postby Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:21 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Zanera wrote:
So they're putting a romantic theme over the whole 'assassination of Julius Trump'. IDK then, with the Scalise shooting the protester might have a point.

Well, no, they just draw parallels. The assassination is obligatory, because it's a rendition of Caesar.


Although I can see how it might have been obligatory (I think that scene is famous?), they could have went with something metaphorical or further applied to our time, like his sudden impeachment and removal from office, both Republicans and Democrats striking the great Julius Trump down or something. With Scalise and the shooting the assassination seems more real.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:24 pm

So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?

Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:32 pm

Gauthier wrote:So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?

Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?


I would rather throw my stinking shoes at Obama, like the Arabs do.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:36 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gauthier wrote:So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?

Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?


I would rather throw my stinking shoes at Obama, like the Arabs do.

Noone ever threw a shoe at Obama.
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:38 pm

Gauthier wrote:So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?

Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?

*Rand Paul raises a hand somewhere.*
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This...baffles me. Though at the same time, I think panic might be slightly more appropriate if they did...MacBeth, maybe?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:41 pm

Genivaria wrote:
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I would rather throw my stinking shoes at Obama, like the Arabs do.

Noone ever threw a shoe at Obama.

A cute roundabout way of claiming Bush and Obama are the same.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:42 pm

Luminesa wrote:

This...baffles me. Though at the same time, I think panic might be slightly more appropriate if they did...MacBeth, maybe?

That would imply Melania was the real power.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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