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by Vassenor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:19 am

by Geilinor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:21 am

by Proctopeo » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:24 am

by Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:37 am

by Vassenor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 am
Zanera wrote:
Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?

by Maineiacs » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:50 am
Vassenor wrote:Zanera wrote:
Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.
Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.

by Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:53 am
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:54 am
Zanera wrote:
Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?

by Vassenor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:03 pm

by Maineiacs » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:06 pm

by Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:31 pm
The incident was filmed by Jack Posobiec, a rightwing provocateur best known for helping to spread the Pizzagate conspiracy theory. He stood up as Loomer was escorted off stage by security guards and yelled at the crowd: “You are all Goebbels. You are all Nazis like Joseph Goebbels … You are inciting terrorists. The blood of Steve Scalise is on your hands.”

by Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:45 pm
Vassenor wrote:Zanera wrote:
Like that Broadway play about Alexander Hamilton or whoever, where the cast invited Mike Pence in then talked about being gay or whatever it was.
Why is there modern politics in muh Shakespeare play about a famous statesman from Rome?
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.
Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.


by Zeinbrad » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:51 pm
Zanera wrote:Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.
Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.
Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:55 pm
Zanera wrote:Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.
Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.
Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:55 pm
Zanera wrote:Vassenor wrote:
People reinvent Shakespeare like that all the time. See also the film that turned Richard III into not-Hitler.
Or the fact that the first two Lion King films are Hamlet and Romeo And Juliet for furries.
Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.

by Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:16 pm
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Zanera wrote:
Roman times were far away and you could easily make those times romantic, like a lot of people do. Adding in modern politics makes it blegh. But people can do whatever with the plays, I can't care that much about it.
The struggle during Caesar's time was a struggle of the Populares, the much-beloved champions of the people who felt disenfranchised by the political elite, and that political elite in the form of the Optimates, trying to cling to power and preserve the Republic from the monarchical tendencies of the Populares.
So, no parallel with our time whatsoever.

by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:17 pm
Zanera wrote:Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:The struggle during Caesar's time was a struggle of the Populares, the much-beloved champions of the people who felt disenfranchised by the political elite, and that political elite in the form of the Optimates, trying to cling to power and preserve the Republic from the monarchical tendencies of the Populares.
So, no parallel with our time whatsoever.
So they're putting a romantic theme over the whole 'assassination of Julius Trump'. IDK then, with the Scalise shooting the protester might have a point.

by Zanera » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:21 pm
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Zanera wrote:
So they're putting a romantic theme over the whole 'assassination of Julius Trump'. IDK then, with the Scalise shooting the protester might have a point.
Well, no, they just draw parallels. The assassination is obligatory, because it's a rendition of Caesar.

by Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:24 pm

by Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:32 pm
Gauthier wrote:So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?
Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?

by Genivaria » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:36 pm
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gauthier wrote:So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?
Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?
I would rather throw my stinking shoes at Obama, like the Arabs do.

by Luminesa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:38 pm
Gauthier wrote:So does that make Pence Brutus? Ét tu Pencé?
Also, Caesar was stabbed by Senators trying to save the Republic. Does anyone think the Republicans have the spine and balls to even proverbially stab Trump?

by Luminesa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:41 pm

by Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:41 pm

by Gauthier » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:42 pm
Luminesa wrote:
This...baffles me. Though at the same time, I think panic might be slightly more appropriate if they did...MacBeth, maybe?
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