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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:49 pm

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The former he can't do: it is Congress which ties federal funding of roads to States having a higher drinking age (Democrats did that btw).
The second one I'm not sure. Is the smoking age higher or lower in some states?


The PC Brigade and Religious Right have teamed up to raise the smoking age to 21 in many states.


And does the Federal government have a role in that, the way they do in raising the state drinking ages above 18?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:53 pm

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Vince Vaughn wrote:When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

Trump doesn't smoke or drink; it's doubtful he'll do anything, unless the breweries and tobacco lobbyists ramp up their game.

And Trump might still be butthurt over one brewery that made an exclusive draft for his hotel change its name to Chinga Tu Pelo after he made the Mexicans Are Drug Dealing Rapists speech.
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Postby Vince Vaughn » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:59 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
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The PC Brigade and Religious Right have teamed up to raise the smoking age to 21 in many states.


And does the Federal government have a role in that, the way they do in raising the state drinking ages above 18?


No, the smoking laws were set by lobbyists.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:59 pm

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Vince Vaughn wrote:When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

Trump doesn't smoke or drink; it's doubtful he'll do anything, unless the breweries and tobacco lobbyists ramp up their game.


It seems like something the President would have very limited scope to do via executive orders.

Really, both of those seem like restrictions of individual rights, not the extension of individual rights against state governments which might otherwise infringe them, and as such not even the President and Congress combined should have the power.

For instance, the Federal government (by the 26th amendment) forbids any state from denying the right to vote based on age above 18. But it does not at all forbid any state from extending voting rights to younger aged residents of their state. This to me is correct, and the proper role of federal government in defending individual rights of Americans against state governments.
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Postby Frenequesta » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:00 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
Vince Vaughn wrote:
The PC Brigade and Religious Right have teamed up to raise the smoking age to 21 in many states.


And does the Federal government have a role in that, the way they do in raising the state drinking ages above 18?

I'm guessing if the federal government can regulate tobacco advertising, they can also enact Spending Clause legislation relating to tobacco. If anything, it's a stronger claim than alcohol because tobacco doesn't have a special amendment that puts some alcohol regulation solely with the states.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:15 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
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And does the Federal government have a role in that, the way they do in raising the state drinking ages above 18?

I'm guessing if the federal government can regulate tobacco advertising, they can also enact Spending Clause legislation relating to tobacco. If anything, it's a stronger claim than alcohol because tobacco doesn't have a special amendment that puts some alcohol regulation solely with the states.


Regulation of advertising might itself be a special case, but your point is well taken. Prohibition wasn't "perfectly" repealed, it left a constitutional remnant specific to alcohol.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:49 am

Wow...Trump's reasoning for thinking of firing Mueller...Smooth Trump
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:13 am

Corrian wrote:Wow...Trump's reasoning for thinking of firing Mueller...Smooth Trump

Wait, I thought he was raving that it was 'fake news,' is he now saying that he actually was?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:16 am

Myrensis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, but see, that's all part of his master plan to...em...make...make America great again?


Speaking of, on the upside Trump continues to leave the Republican 'agenda', such as it is, gasping for air in his vacuum.

Tragic as the shooting at the Congressional baseball thing was, it would have been a golden opportunity for Republicans to move away from the Russia Investigation and focus on their legislative agenda, all Trump had to do was stay coherent and focused and say something Presidential about not letting the tragedy stop them from the business of improving the country.

But NOPE! Trump gotta Trump! Put the Russia Investigation right back at the top of the agenda and consume all available oxygen whining and moaning about how mean and unfair and hard his life is.

He's the star of this reality TV show. Sooner or later it's all got to come back to him.


Vince Vaughn wrote:When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

...never?


Corrian wrote:Wow...Trump's reasoning for thinking of firing Mueller...Smooth Trump

What was his reasoning?

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:16 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Corrian wrote:Wow...Trump's reasoning for thinking of firing Mueller...Smooth Trump

Wait, I thought he was raving that it was 'fake news,' is he now saying that he actually was?

I heard that he had to be talked out of it my his staff, I guess it didn't work.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:19 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Corrian wrote:Wow...Trump's reasoning for thinking of firing Mueller...Smooth Trump

Wait, I thought he was raving that it was 'fake news,' is he now saying that he actually was?

This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Wait, I thought he was raving that it was 'fake news,' is he now saying that he actually was?

I heard that he had to be talked out of it my his staff, I guess it didn't work.

Mueller isn't fired, though. So far the staff has won...But its Trump
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:26 am

Corrian wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Wait, I thought he was raving that it was 'fake news,' is he now saying that he actually was?

This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."

That dude masturbates in front of a full length mirror.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:27 am

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I heard that he had to be talked out of it my his staff, I guess it didn't work.

Mueller isn't fired, though. So far the staff has won...But its Trump

Great...
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:28 am

Corrian wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Wait, I thought he was raving that it was 'fake news,' is he now saying that he actually was?

This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."

What the fuck is wrong with him? He really thinks that real life is some tv show? You can't just threaten someone and expect them to give you what you want; especially not Mueller
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Corrian wrote:This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."

What the fuck is wrong with him? He really thinks that real life is some tv show? You can't just threaten someone and expect them to give you what you want; especially not Mueller


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Postby Corrian » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Corrian wrote:This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."

What the fuck is wrong with him? He really thinks that real life is some tv show? You can't just threaten someone and expect them to give you what you want; especially not Mueller

What happened instead is (I think) Mueller going "You're under investigation, buddy. Try me"
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:32 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Corrian wrote:This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."

That dude masturbates in front of a full length mirror.

Thanks for that.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:38 am

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What the fuck is wrong with him? He really thinks that real life is some tv show? You can't just threaten someone and expect them to give you what you want; especially not Mueller

What happened instead is (I think) Mueller going "You're under investigation, buddy. Try me"

I really want Trump to do it just to see everyone's reaction and how bad it would be.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:52 am

So Trump is now blaming his Deputy AG for conducting a witch hunt against him
Trump confirms he is being investigated over Comey firing
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/ ... index.html
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:58 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Corrian wrote:This one

"That may have been by design, according to a person who spoke to Mr. Trump on Tuesday. The president was pleased by the ambiguity of his position on Mr. Mueller, and thinks the possibility of being fired will focus the veteran prosecutor on delivering what the president desires most: a blanket public exoneration."

That dude masturbates in front of a full length mirror.

Which takes a very long time with those tiny hands.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:18 am

Have y'all heard the joke where a Russian offers a former FBI boss political asylum?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/newsvideos/putin-says-hes-ready-to-offer-political-asylum-to-comey/vi-BBCHVm8
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:26 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:Have y'all heard the joke where a Russian offers a former FBI boss political asylum?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/newsvideos/putin-says-hes-ready-to-offer-political-asylum-to-comey/vi-BBCHVm8

Good thin Comey won't take it. But it means nothing other than Putin trying to meddle in US affairs again
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:So Trump is now blaming his Deputy AG for conducting a witch hunt against him
Trump confirms he is being investigated over Comey firing
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/ ... index.html

It's funny to see Trump so mad at everyone and everything. Until you remember that this ridiculous man is President of the United States.


Gig em Aggies wrote:Have y'all heard the joke where a Russian offers a former FBI boss political asylum?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/newsvideos/putin-says-hes-ready-to-offer-political-asylum-to-comey/vi-BBCHVm8

They say Russia hires people to troll the internet.

Have we considered the possibility that it's just Putin?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:40 am

Gauthier wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:That dude masturbates in front of a full length mirror.

Which takes a very long time with those tiny hands.

He uses two hands, like a toddler trying to drink out of a cup.
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