Trump MAGAthread VI

[Jamzmania]

My problem with that defense is that they're trying to go for the "he's not as well-versed as we are with words" angle. However, a little bit of thought makes that defense nonsensical because the problem with Trump is not that he's simple-spoken, it's that he says stupid things.

Simple words makes him more approachable, the shit he says makes him worthy of derision, two different things.

To be fair, they don't really have a lot of options. They can't really make any specific arguments on his behalf because 1. Trump apparently doesn't even bother communicating with his own staff about what he's thinking or doing, much less Congress, and 2. There is an approximately 100% chance that he will throw them under the bus by Tweeting the exact opposite thing 2 days later.

Pretty much this.

[Zeinbrad]

Remind me of the babe.

What babe?

In other news, Republicans are continuing their stirring defense of the President that amounts to arguing that it's not that he's actually committing crimes, it's that he's so stupid and incompetent he just constantly seems like he is.

"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand putting his political enemies in camps is wrong"
"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that executing Pence on public tv and declaring himself emperor is wrong"
"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that disbanding Congress and renaming every state,street, park and baby after him is wrong"

[Ifreann]

Except they mean the same goddamn thing when interpreted in a 'Billionaire CEO' context, too.
That's a horrible "defense".

My problem with that defense is that they're trying to go for the "he's not as well-versed as we are with words" angle. However, a little bit of thought makes that defense nonsensical because the problem with Trump is not that he's simple-spoken, it's that he says stupid things.

Simple words makes him more approachable, the shit he says makes him worthy of derision, two different things.

He has the best words.

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What babe?

In other news, Republicans are continuing their stirring defense of the President that amounts to arguing that it's not that he's actually committing crimes, it's that he's so stupid and incompetent he just constantly seems like he is.

"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand putting his political enemies in camps is wrong"
"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that executing Pence on public tv and declaring himself emperor is wrong"
"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that disbanding Congress and renaming every state,street, park and baby after him is wrong"

America knows no Emperor but the Emperor from San Francisco whose name was Norton.

[Lady Scylla]

Remind me of the babe.

What babe?

In other news, Republicans are continuing their stirring defense of the President that amounts to arguing that it's not that he's actually committing crimes, it's that he's so stupid and incompetent he just constantly seems like he is.

I mean, if he's stupid and incompetent, he probably shouldn't be President.

[Maineiacs]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/ar-BBCK1BI?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Vice President Mike Pence has hired outside legal counsel to help with both congressional committee inquiries and the special counsel investigation into possible collusion between President Trump’s campaign and Russia.

The vice president’s office said Thursday that Pence has retained Richard Cullen, a Richmond-based attorney and chairman of McGuire Woods who previously served as a U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia.

Who is currently President Pro-tem?

Never mind, Ryan would get it first.

[Seangoli]

Except they mean the same goddamn thing when interpreted in a 'Billionaire CEO' context, too.
That's a horrible "defense".

My problem with that defense is that they're trying to go for the "he's not as well-versed as we are with words" angle. However, a little bit of thought makes that defense nonsensical because the problem with Trump is not that he's simple-spoken, it's that he says stupid things.

Simple words makes him more approachable, the shit he says makes him worthy of derision, two different things.

It's the difference between George W. Bush and a coke-fueled rabies infected chimpanzee with a spray tan and bad comb-over.

[New haven america]

What babe?

In other news, Republicans are continuing their stirring defense of the President that amounts to arguing that it's not that he's actually committing crimes, it's that he's so stupid and incompetent he just constantly seems like he is.

"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand putting his political enemies in camps is wrong"
"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that executing Pence on public tv and declaring himself emperor is wrong"
"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that disbanding Congress and renaming every state,street, park and baby after him is wrong"

"Trump is not from the political class, therefore he does not understand that renaming the US to "The United States of Trump's America™" is wrong."

[Ifreann]

What babe?

In other news, Republicans are continuing their stirring defense of the President that amounts to arguing that it's not that he's actually committing crimes, it's that he's so stupid and incompetent he just constantly seems like he is.

I mean, if he's stupid and incompetent, he probably shouldn't be President.

No, but see, that's all part of his master plan to...em...make...make America great again?

[Lilinia]

What babe?

In other news, Republicans are continuing their stirring defense of the President that amounts to arguing that it's not that he's actually committing crimes, it's that he's so stupid and incompetent he just constantly seems like he is.

I mean, if he's stupid and incompetent, he probably shouldn't be President.

He's simultaneously so ignorant of political ways he can't function, and so expert in them he can play 5-D chess regarding politics.
It would be fascinating to watch people trying to justify, if it wasn't putting the whole country, and global stability, at risk.

[Myrensis]

I mean, if he's stupid and incompetent, he probably shouldn't be President.

No, but see, that's all part of his master plan to...em...make...make America great again?

Speaking of, on the upside Trump continues to leave the Republican 'agenda', such as it is, gasping for air in his vacuum.

Tragic as the shooting at the Congressional baseball thing was, it would have been a golden opportunity for Republicans to move away from the Russia Investigation and focus on their legislative agenda, all Trump had to do was stay coherent and focused and say something Presidential about not letting the tragedy stop them from the business of improving the country.

But NOPE! Trump gotta Trump! Put the Russia Investigation right back at the top of the agenda and consume all available oxygen whining and moaning about how mean and unfair and hard his life is.

[MERIZoC]

lmao you're not serious

Feeling sad that Trump is getting closer to being the only successfully impeached President in U.S. history?

lol no, what the fuck do you think I look like?

I'm saying you're not serious cause Corrian is linking to an obviously fake twitter account

[Soldati Senza Confini]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... spartanntp

An American lobbyist for Russian interests who helped craft an important foreign policy speech for Donald Trump has confirmed that he attended two dinners hosted by Jeff Sessions during the 2016 campaign, apparently contradicting the attorney general’s sworn testimony given this week.

Sessions testified under oath on Tuesday that he did not believe he had any contacts with lobbyists working for Russian interests over the course of Trump’s campaign. But Richard Burt, a former ambassador to Germany during the Reagan administration, who has represented Russian interests in Washington, told the Guardian that he could confirm previous media reports that stated he had contacts with Sessions at the time.

“I did attend two dinners with groups of former Republican foreign policy officials and Senator Sessions,” Burt said.

Asked whether Sessions was unfamiliar with Burt’s role as a lobbyist for Russian interests – a fact that is disclosed in public records – or had any reason to be confused about the issue, Burt told the Guardian that he did not know.

Several media reports published before Trump’s election in November noted that Burt advised then candidate Trump on his first major foreign policy speech, a role that brought him into contact with Sessions personally.

Burt, who previously served on the advisory board of Alfa Capital Partners, a private equity fund where Russia’s Alfa Bank was an investor and last year was lobbying on behalf of a pipeline company that is now controlled by Gazprom, Russia’s state-controlled energy conglomerate, first told Politico in October that he had been invited to two dinners that were hosted by Sessions last summer, at the height of the presidential campaign.

Sessions, a former senator for Alabama who was chairman of the Trump campaign’s national security committee, reportedly invited Burt so that he could discuss issues of national security and foreign policy.

[Camicon]

Feeling sad that Trump is getting closer to being the only successfully impeached President in U.S. history?

lol no, what the fuck do you think I look like?

I'm saying you're not serious cause Corrian is linking to an obviously fake twitter account

We all know it's a fake Twitter account. Corrian was linking to it because it's funny.

[MERIZoC]

lol no, what the fuck do you think I look like?

I'm saying you're not serious cause Corrian is linking to an obviously fake twitter account

We all know it's a fake Twitter account. Corrian was linking to it because it's funny.

Hence the query regarding how ironic the post was.

[Saiwania]

Trump should veto the new Russia and Iran sanctions. Fact is, the US senate is full of morons who needlessly back Saudi Arabia because they are bought.

[Jamzmania]

Trump should veto the new Russia and Iran sanctions. Fact is, the US senate is full of morons who needlessly back Saudi Arabia because they are bought.

I'm sure the optics on that would look great.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Trump should veto the new Russia and Iran sanctions. Fact is, the US senate is full of morons who needlessly back Saudi Arabia because they are bought.

Congress can override veto, and considering that the sanctions passed in the Senate almost unanimously, it doesn't look good for Trump to try to veto it and get away with it.

[Wysten]

No, but see, that's all part of his master plan to...em...make...make America great again?

Speaking of, on the upside Trump continues to leave the Republican 'agenda', such as it is, gasping for air in his vacuum.

Tragic as the shooting at the Congressional baseball thing was, it would have been a golden opportunity for Republicans to move away from the Russia Investigation and focus on their legislative agenda, all Trump had to do was stay coherent and focused and say something Presidential about not letting the tragedy stop them from the business of improving the country.

But NOPE! Trump gotta Trump! Put the Russia Investigation right back at the top of the agenda and consume all available oxygen whining and moaning about how mean and unfair and hard his life is.

Well if they tried to they Dems would just drag it right back up and have an excuse for that saying he wanted to use this shooting as a distraction from the Russia investigation.

[Saiwania]

Congress can override veto, and considering that the sanctions passed in the Senate almost unanimously, it doesn't look good for Trump to try to veto it and get away with it.

Let the US congress try to override it, I don't see any good reason to punish either Russia or Iran. These countries are stabilizing the middle east a hell of a lot more than the US currently is. Russian cooperation is an asset against ISIS and not a liability. The US refuses to ever go against Saudi Arabia and Qatar when these nations are the real troublemakers. There does not need to be any pro-Sunni bias. It would be for the best to finally get away from that.

[Myrensis]

Trump should veto the new Russia and Iran sanctions. Fact is, the US senate is full of morons who needlessly back Saudi Arabia because they are bought.

I'm sure the optics on that would look great.

Trump fired Comey in the most hamfisted and humiliating way possible on the same day multiple grand jury subpoenas were issued for Michael Flynn and his associates and the day before he had a no-US-press-allowed meeting with the Russian Ambassador.

Optics are a deep state lie created by the fake media!

Don't worry though, I doubt he'll veto, not because he actually knows or understands or really cares one way or another about geopolitics, but simply because sanctions will appeal to his fondness for portraying himself as a 'tough guy' leader.

[Cannot think of a name]

Political nihilism. That's never been done before!

Oh for fuck's sake. I give up with you.

Where you expecting a parade? That we'd swoon at your disaffected affectation? That you'd wander into a thread, take a drag off your metaphorical cigarette and huff how above it all you are and we'd all swoon like you are the first teenager on earth? That we'd go "he gave up after one whole election, I wish I could be that cool."

You peed your pants and your posts are being regarded reflecting that. Don't care? Don't post. We don't care that you don't care, just get the fuck off the field.

[Vince Vaughn]

When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

[AiliailiA]

When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

The former he can't do: it is Congress which ties federal funding of roads to States having a higher drinking age (Democrats did that btw).
The second one I'm not sure. Is the smoking age higher or lower in some states?

[Vince Vaughn]

When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

The former he can't do: it is Congress which ties federal funding of roads to States having a higher drinking age (Democrats did that btw).
The second one I'm not sure. Is the smoking age higher or lower in some states?

The PC Brigade and Religious Right have teamed up to raise the smoking age to 21 in many states.

[Frenequesta]

When's Trump gonna lower the drinking age to 16 and return the smoking age to 18?

Trump doesn't smoke or drink; it's doubtful he'll do anything, unless the breweries and tobacco lobbyists ramp up their game.