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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 04, 2017 11:31 am

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I wouldn't be so sure. The GOP might very well be able to bully Dems who are in red states into supporting it given 2018 is right around the corner. They only need, what, 7 or 8 Dems to jump ship in the Senate?

I was sort of hoping for an "in-your-face!" failure in the house.

Unfortunately, we don't get what we want.


I'm really surprised it passed, tbh. I truly didn't think it was going to.
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Postby Philjia » Thu May 04, 2017 11:32 am

Ah, so that's where the GOP getting it's health policy from: https://www.facebook.com/ThePileus/vide ... 707486123/
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 04, 2017 11:32 am

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Galloism wrote:I was sort of hoping for an "in-your-face!" failure in the house.

Unfortunately, we don't get what we want.


I'm really surprised it passed, tbh. I truly didn't think it was going to.

Watch the senate amend the shit out of it sending it back to the house
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 04, 2017 11:33 am

Maichuko wrote:Of fucking course their celebrating with a Beer party.

Andrew Jackson would be proud. :lol2:
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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 04, 2017 11:49 am

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Maichuko wrote:Of fucking course their celebrating with a Beer party.

Andrew Jackson would be proud. :lol2:


Because nothing says condemning millions of Americans to a slow and painful death like Bud Light.
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Postby Galloism » Thu May 04, 2017 11:51 am

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Luminesa wrote:Andrew Jackson would be proud. :lol2:


Because nothing says condemning millions of Americans to a slow and painful death like Bud Light.

Actually, yes, kinda.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 04, 2017 11:52 am

Vassenor wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Andrew Jackson would be proud. :lol2:


Because nothing says condemning millions of Americans to a slow and painful death like Bud Light.

...I mean...you know how alcohol sells during football season...

"Drink responsibly" my foot, Bud Light. >.<
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Postby Sane Outcasts » Thu May 04, 2017 11:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm really surprised it passed, tbh. I truly didn't think it was going to.

Watch the senate amend the shit out of it sending it back to the house

The Senate will have the benefit of actually knowing what this bill does and how much it will cost before they vote on it, so I doubt it'll go through in its current form. I think most of the reason for the haste on the House vote was the the "yea" majority was so shaky that knowing the cost might've made some of them vote against it.

Haven't checked Twitter yet, but I'll bet Trump is taking a victory lap anyways.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 04, 2017 11:54 am

So in a nutshell forty percent of the population are going to lose their healthcare in order to fund a tax cut for the top two percent.

DEMOCRACY.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 04, 2017 12:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was sort of hoping for an "in-your-face!" failure in the house.

Unfortunately, we don't get what we want.


I'm really surprised it passed, tbh. I truly didn't think it was going to.


Really? It has all the things they wanted since the beginning.



Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm really surprised it passed, tbh. I truly didn't think it was going to.

Watch the senate amend the shit out of it sending it back to the house


Why would they do that? Repubs own the Senate.


Vassenor wrote:So in a nutshell forty percent of the population are going to lose their healthcare in order to fund a tax cut for the top two percent.

DEMOCRACY.


Don't worry the 1 percent club and the free market will solve it.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu May 04, 2017 12:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:So in a nutshell forty percent of the population are going to lose their healthcare in order to fund a tax cut for the top two percent.

DEMOCRACY.


That sucks.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 04, 2017 12:04 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So in a nutshell forty percent of the population are going to lose their healthcare in order to fund a tax cut for the top two percent.

DEMOCRACY.


That sucks.


Well? If you really want to get the feeling of democracy is a bad thing. Watch a news story where a mid west person is talking about how this will screw him over but he still supports Donnie.

I remember a Kentucky (at least I think that was where he was from) coal miner who said he didn't think the coal jobs are going to happen, make america great is a myth, and he will be worse off. BUT!....he still supports Trump.

I thought I could relate to these people but I am not sure anymore......
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 04, 2017 12:09 pm

From what I've heard the GOP is going down the budget reconciliation route with it in the Senate, meaning no filibuster and only 51 votes needed.

They could very well pass it soon if that's the case.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 12:10 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Which part? I don't think it's unconstitutional for Churches to have political positions.


People having an opinion is fine. It's that separation of Church and state thing. Many Religious people seem to hate that.

Religion with politics is a VERY bad thing.

Religion with politics is no worse than combining any other ideology with politics, and everyone combines their ideology with politics.
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Postby KrakenCo » Thu May 04, 2017 12:10 pm

ObamaCare is about to be repealed.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu May 04, 2017 12:11 pm

KrakenCo wrote:ObamaCare is about to be repealed.

:bow: Praise God-Emperor Trump :bow:

So what's it like being rich?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 12:11 pm

KrakenCo wrote:ObamaCare is about to be repealed.

:bow: Praise God-Emperor Trump :bow:

But what's replacing it?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 04, 2017 12:11 pm

Gauthier wrote:
KrakenCo wrote:ObamaCare is about to be repealed.

:bow: Praise God-Emperor Trump :bow:

So what's it like being rich?


Better than being poor, I imagine.
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Postby Galloism » Thu May 04, 2017 12:12 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
KrakenCo wrote:ObamaCare is about to be repealed.

:bow: Praise God-Emperor Trump :bow:

But what's replacing it?

I think this is still the one with income-flat age-based tax credits.

Which, ironically, will help me in the short term - until their method collapses the insurance market, but then everybody's fucked.
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Postby KrakenCo » Thu May 04, 2017 12:12 pm

Gauthier wrote:
KrakenCo wrote:ObamaCare is about to be repealed.

:bow: Praise God-Emperor Trump :bow:

So what's it like being rich?


I'm not rich. I'm high-income lower class.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 04, 2017 12:12 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
People having an opinion is fine. It's that separation of Church and state thing. Many Religious people seem to hate that.

Religion with politics is a VERY bad thing.

Religion with politics is no worse than combining any other ideology with politics, and everyone combines their ideology with politics.


Nope. They feel they are justified by their religion for being an asshole to others.

Religion must stay away from the goverment.....
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 12:13 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Religion with politics is no worse than combining any other ideology with politics, and everyone combines their ideology with politics.


Nope. They feel they are justified by their religion for being an asshole to others.

Religion must stay away from the goverment.....

And, again, that is different from any other ideology how?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu May 04, 2017 12:14 pm

KrakenCo wrote:
Gauthier wrote:So what's it like being rich?


I'm not rich. I'm high-income lower class.


Upper-middle class here.

As much as there are criticisms of Obamacare, I fail to see how this measure from the GOP will benefit the people in your income bracket.

Mind explaining to me what's in it for you?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 04, 2017 12:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:From what I've heard the GOP is going down the budget reconciliation route with it in the Senate, meaning no filibuster and only 51 votes needed.

They could very well pass it soon if that's the case.


But but but that fucker from Kentucky said he wouldn't use it anymore.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 04, 2017 12:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm really surprised it passed, tbh. I truly didn't think it was going to.


Really? It has all the things they wanted since the beginning.

"Why are Republicans passing this bill that will fuck the poor and further enrich the wealthy?"
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