Trump MAGAthread VI

[Napkiraly]

The Pacific should be the primary one and sooner rather than later. It's good seeing that the Japanese are at least starting a slow build up and the ROK has generally maintained a solid defense capability for their country from what I can tell (someone correct me if I am wrong).

So...what, are we planning to attack China?

Deter and put pressure on them.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The Pacific should be the primary one and sooner rather than later. It's good seeing that the Japanese are at least starting a slow build up and the ROK has generally maintained a solid defense capability for their country from what I can tell (someone correct me if I am wrong).

So...what, are we planning to attack China?

You know, I want to avoid all types of war, but if a had to pick just one to avoid...

[The East Marches II]

Two weeks at a rough estimate. You have to include skrublys, trucks, etc. etc.

Movement by ship gets us just over 3 weeks. It's not much faster. That's too slow without enough troops from other NATO countries to hold the line.

Shit man, if the Russians move enough material to bust Europe within two weeks without us noticing, we've either got a serious intel problem or Yuri just went back in time and assassinated Einstein or something.

I continually make points on the weaknesses of the Russians all the time. It is well known my opinion of them. This is not fan boying.

The Russians are very good at conducting build ups under the nose of intelligence and striking when least expected.

If we get Europe to cover it's costs and pull it's weight, we will have nothing to worry about. When we are relying on Poland (and Turkey) as the anchors for land forces, that's how you know we have a problem.

[Napkiraly]

I also question how willing the Greeks would be. A lot of Greeks are not particularly fond of the rest of Europe atm, particularly the likes of Germany and co and are increasingly tied to the Russians for economic and cultural (primarily religious) reasons. This is also something that must be taken into consideration. A number of the countries have particularly weak willed populations.

[Hittanryan]

So...what, are we planning to attack China?

Deter and put pressure on them.

Deter them from doing what? Put pressure on them to do what?

[Uxupox]

Shit man, if the Russians move enough material to bust Europe within two weeks without us noticing, we've either got a serious intel problem or Yuri just went back in time and assassinated Einstein or something.

I continually make points on the weaknesses of the Russians all the time. It is well known my opinion of them. This is not fan boying.

The Russians are very good at conducting build ups under the nose of intelligence and striking when least expected.

They are so good at that it's quite scary honestly. Military analysts had a hard time devising an order of battle in the European theater for years.

[Lady Scylla]

Shit man, if the Russians move enough material to bust Europe within two weeks without us noticing, we've either got a serious intel problem or Yuri just went back in time and assassinated Einstein or something.

I continually make points on the weaknesses of the Russians all the time. It is well known my opinion of them. This is not fan boying.

The Russians are very good at conducting build ups under the nose of intelligence and striking when least expected.

The day the Rust Bucket invades Europe, will be a day I laugh.

[Napkiraly]

Deter and put pressure on them.

Deter them from doing what? Put pressure on them to do what?

Are you not aware of China's growing ambitions, particularly within that region of the world?

[Thermodolia]

I saw this one day

Believing recruitment adverts... Bad Thermy.

Hey it's how I got in before. If it's moto enough I'll be roped in

[Ism]

I also question how willing the Greeks would be. A lot of Greeks are not particularly fond of the rest of Europe atm, particularly the likes of Germany and co and are increasingly tied to the Russians for economic and cultural (primarily religious) reasons. This is also something that must be taken into consideration. A number of the countries have particularly weak willed populations.

Which countries are you referring too? I know some, Poland obviously among them, would very much stand their ground.

[Napkiraly]

Traitor! You were supposed to bring balance to force, not destroy it

I saw a moto commercial and had a freedom boner

Not going to lie, this made me chuckle. 8/10.

[Saiwania]

The Russians are very good at conducting build ups under the nose of intelligence and striking when least expected.

Are you speaking of the famous Maskirovka?

[Corrian]

So Jeff Sessions is actually trying to defend the Trump travel ban

This is pretty much an instant loss to try to fight, isn't it?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Believing recruitment adverts... Bad Thermy.

Hey it's how I got in before. If it's moto enough I'll be roped in

You went jughead though Therm.

[The East Marches II]

Deter and put pressure on them.

Deter them from doing what? Put pressure on them to do what?

Their expansionism and challenging of the American world order. They are doing everything to undermine us. Parallel insitutions in the financial world, a large naval build up and menacing the South China Sea. We should have stopped them, even if by force, from making those islands. We seriously made mistakes.

[Conserative Morality]

Greece has supply issues and theirs out of commission. I don't know about the Romanians but I thought they sold alot of their kit to the Ukies. As for the Turks, they are missing a senior command and have opted to gut their incoming classes of officers by about 4 years. They are also practically out of commission.

Thank you for reminding me about the Ukranians - it's doubtful that they'd be particularly happy about a conventional Russian invasion on their doorstep. They're pissed enough about the 'rebel' problem in the Donbass.

Germany has 150 tanks in active service, France 200, the UK about 200.

These may not be optimal numbers - but taken together they're not "Roll over and die within a month" numbers either. "They can do better - and should" I agree with. "They are waiting to die" I don''t.

[The East Marches II]

I continually make points on the weaknesses of the Russians all the time. It is well known my opinion of them. This is not fan boying.

The Russians are very good at conducting build ups under the nose of intelligence and striking when least expected.

The day the Rust Bucket invades Europe, will be a day I laugh.

Then you aren't taking your foe seriously or looking at the situation for what it is.

[Conserative Morality]

I also question how willing the Greeks would be. A lot of Greeks are not particularly fond of the rest of Europe atm, particularly the likes of Germany and co and are increasingly tied to the Russians for economic and cultural (primarily religious) reasons. This is also something that must be taken into consideration. A number of the countries have particularly weak willed populations.

Greece has been tied more and more to Europe financially speaking. And remember - Orthodox are not like Catholics - each national church is autocephalous.

[Uxupox]

Greece has supply issues and theirs out of commission. I don't know about the Romanians but I thought they sold alot of their kit to the Ukies. As for the Turks, they are missing a senior command and have opted to gut their incoming classes of officers by about 4 years. They are also practically out of commission.

Thank you for reminding me about the Ukranians - it's doubtful that they'd be particularly happy about a conventional Russian invasion on their doorstep. They're pissed enough about the 'rebel' problem in the Donbass.

Germany has 150 tanks in active service, France 200, the UK about 200.

These may not be optimal numbers - but taken together they're not "Roll over and die within a month" numbers either. "They can do better - and should" I agree with. "They are waiting to die" I don''t.

You never fully deploy all those numbers. Always use the 1/3rd rule.

[Olerand]

Not really sure why we're actually discussing the possibility of a Russian invasion of Europe and an American counter-invasion as if the Cold War never ended. Russia couldn't invade us for shit. And we still have nukes that would hold them off long enough (if the situation were truly that desperate) that America could come save us or what have you without having to do another landing at Normandy.

[Ism]

The day the Rust Bucket invades Europe, will be a day I laugh.

Then you aren't taking your foe seriously or looking at the situation for what it is.

Do the Russians really have the resources to occupy Europe? Attack it, sure, maybe, and this is a big maybe, conquer it. But occupy it? I seriously doubt that.

[Hittanryan]

Deter them from doing what? Put pressure on them to do what?

Are you not aware of China's growing ambitions, particularly within that region of the world?

That's not what I said. I am asking you what specifically needs to be done.

[Conserative Morality]

Are you not aware of China's growing ambitions, particularly within that region of the world?

China's 'growing' ambitions have had a stopper put in them ever since all our former enemies decided to play nice with us for that sweet American military hardware. The only place where they're actually a threat to the global order is Africa, and that's not a threat that we'll be dealing with in military terms.

[Thermodolia]

Hey it's how I got in before. If it's moto enough I'll be roped in

You went jughead though Therm.

Hey those crayons taste great.

[Lady Scylla]

The day the Rust Bucket invades Europe, will be a day I laugh.

Then you aren't taking your foe seriously or looking at the situation for what it is.

I still see them as a threat. A Rust Bucket can still give you tetanus. They're just more crap these days.