Trump MAGAthread VI

[Corrian]

Generation Z, iGen, ect

No, goddamn it, stop it. Generation X wasn't Generation X because it was the 23rd generation in America (we were the 13th). It was called Generation X because it was a generation that was disassociated. It was a generation that had no defining event, no unifying identity except that it came after the largest generation and we were born into a massive societal shift that sold out in our life time. It was a moniker of a lack of distinction. Just because it's a letter you don't just go to the next letter.

Look, new generation...eventually someone will figure out how to sell you as a brand and you'll get your own name and you'll both loath it and kind of feel ownership of it at the same time. Then, when you're old and someone fucks up the name you'll sit and write a cranky stupid post about it even though it's not really relevant.

Don't look at me, I'm not the one that thought it was a good idea

[Corrian]

So apparently Trump and such agreed to "tone it down with the complaining" or something (You know, after him ranting to Cadet's at the Coast Guard about how unfairly he was treated instead of praising them), then next day he whines on Twitter again.

[Frank Zipper]

You're right.. I was thinking Gen Z, which certainly isn't condescending enough as a name.

Generation Zzzzzz....

[Corrian]

I think The Daily Beast isn't the perfect source, but apparently Michael Flynn never even wanted his job, but Trump pressured him into it because HE wanted him. You know, even after being warned about him countless times.

Lawyers also repeatedly warned Trump to not call Flynn, and he did anyway.

[Nakena]

America is going to shift left, that much seems inevitable to me at this point. The gains by Reagan to capture the hearts and minds of the American people are wearing off, and those he touched are dying off. This becomes clearer with each passing day as a growing member of young people prefer to identify as "Libertarian" or "Liberal" over "Conservative," and those that do tend to not be as Conservative as the current majority of the Republican base.

Many libertarian minded people are pushed to the (sometimes even far- or alt-) right by the self-righteous politics of leftist identity politics, who try to push their ideas onto mainstream society.

[Philjia]

Trump had at least eighteen undisclosed interactions with Kremlin connected people, Reuters told: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKCN18E106

[Hittanryan]

America is going to shift left, that much seems inevitable to me at this point. The gains by Reagan to capture the hearts and minds of the American people are wearing off, and those he touched are dying off. This becomes clearer with each passing day as a growing member of young people prefer to identify as "Libertarian" or "Liberal" over "Conservative," and those that do tend to not be as Conservative as the current majority of the Republican base.

Many libertarian minded people are pushed to the (sometimes even far- or alt-) right by the self-righteous politics of leftist identity politics, who try to push their ideas onto mainstream society.

A shame, because the Republican Party's economic policy consists entirely of corporate welfare for campaign donors.

[Valrifell]

America is going to shift left, that much seems inevitable to me at this point. The gains by Reagan to capture the hearts and minds of the American people are wearing off, and those he touched are dying off. This becomes clearer with each passing day as a growing member of young people prefer to identify as "Libertarian" or "Liberal" over "Conservative," and those that do tend to not be as Conservative as the current majority of the Republican base.

Many libertarian minded people are pushed to the (sometimes even far- or alt-) right by the self-righteous politics of leftist identity politics, who try to push their ideas onto mainstream society.

Sounds like those people have ironically thin skin and are extremely spiteful, if a few bad encounters online completely change their social perspective.

[Nakena]

Many libertarian minded people are pushed to the (sometimes even far- or alt-) right by the self-righteous politics of leftist identity politics, who try to push their ideas onto mainstream society.

Sounds like those people have ironically thin skin and are extremely spiteful, if a few bad encounters online completely change their social perspective.

No. It is because of real-life issues.

The social perspective is, everyone is doing his own thing and as long as you don't step on my Snek it's fine.

But the bigot left has started to step on many sneks in the past Years. They are pushing for their self-righteous agenda, and attempt to force it onto people who rather do not want to be bothered with their stuff. And this isn't just limited to Universities.

[Olivaero]

Sounds like those people have ironically thin skin and are extremely spiteful, if a few bad encounters online completely change their social perspective.

No. It is because of real-life issues.

The social perspective is, everyone is doing his own thing and as long as you don't step on my Snek it's fine.

But the bigot left has started to step on many sneks in the past Years. They are pushing for their self-righteous agenda, and attempt to force it onto people who rather do not. And this isn't just limited to Universities.

This unfortunately does have some truth to it, but I still find it hilarious that this is the thing that turns people from the left to the right becasue to use your analogy, the right is the fucking master of snek stepping. In the Left it's a relatively new phenomenon but in the right if you weren't a straight white male you have been stepped on for many years in different guises. (some branches of) The lefts adoption of (somewhat) stepping on straight white male sneks is a belated reaction to this.

[The East Marches II]

No. It is because of real-life issues.

The social perspective is, everyone is doing his own thing and as long as you don't step on my Snek it's fine.

But the bigot left has started to step on many sneks in the past Years. They are pushing for their self-righteous agenda, and attempt to force it onto people who rather do not. And this isn't just limited to Universities.

This unfortunately does have some truth to it, but I still find it hilarious that this is the thing that turns people from the left to the right becasue to use your analogy, the right is the fucking master of snek stepping. In the Left it's a relatively new phenomenon but in the right if you weren't a straight white male you have been stepped on for many years in different guises. (some branches of) The lefts adoption of (somewhat) stepping on straight white male sneks is a belated reaction to this.

That's a great example. "At the end of the day the white male is still responsible". That will really keep winning people over. Well done.

[The East Marches II]

Many libertarian minded people are pushed to the (sometimes even far- or alt-) right by the self-righteous politics of leftist identity politics, who try to push their ideas onto mainstream society.

Sounds like those people have ironically thin skin and are extremely spiteful, if a few bad encounters online completely change their social perspective.

Usually it's at university that sort of thing happens. They are home to a particularly cancerous form of leftism that leads to foolish statements like "Unions create a privileged class of workers". They say and do stupid shit. The Right couldn't ask for better volunteers. The level disconnect from reality that exists there does alienate people in a wonderful way.

[Olivaero]

This unfortunately does have some truth to it, but I still find it hilarious that this is the thing that turns people from the left to the right becasue to use your analogy, the right is the fucking master of snek stepping. In the Left it's a relatively new phenomenon but in the right if you weren't a straight white male you have been stepped on for many years in different guises. (some branches of) The lefts adoption of (somewhat) stepping on straight white male sneks is a belated reaction to this.

That's a great example. "At the end of the day the white male is still responsible". That will really keep winning people over. Well done.

... I literally never said that. I said the right was stepping on women and minority's before the left and now the left is now sorta stepping on SWM's (mostly the M's). Please respond to what I actually say rather than what you think I said.

[The East Marches II]

That's a great example. "At the end of the day the white male is still responsible". That will really keep winning people over. Well done.

... I literally never said that. I said the right was stepping on women and minority's before the left and now the left is now sorta stepping on SWM's (mostly the M's). Please respond to what I actually say rather than what you think I said.

Really? I could have sworn that's what you did with a garbage summary of recent political history. 10/10.

[Olivaero]

... I literally never said that. I said the right was stepping on women and minority's before the left and now the left is now sorta stepping on SWM's (mostly the M's). Please respond to what I actually say rather than what you think I said.

Really? I could have sworn that's what you did with a garbage summary of recent political history. 10/10.

Great rebuttal, just great. Perhaps if you had something to say that wasn't just shitty bait more people would take you seriously.

[The East Marches II]

Really? I could have sworn that's what you did with a garbage summary of recent political history. 10/10.

Great rebuttal, just great. Perhaps if you had something to say that wasn't just shitty bait more people would take you seriously.

It wasn't bait. You can the standard "white males are the real historical problem" spiel. It's a trash argument and links back to what I mentioned on the previous page. Keep up the good work recruiting for the right though. Richard Spencer and co. thank you!

[Olivaero]

Great rebuttal, just great. Perhaps if you had something to say that wasn't just shitty bait more people would take you seriously.

It wasn't bait. You can the standard "white males are the real historical problem" spiel. It's a trash argument and links back to what I mentioned on the previous page. Keep up the good work recruiting for the right though. Richard Spencer and co. thank you!

Once again you repeat something I didn't say. I placed the blame on the right not the straight white male unless you find the two synonymous, I personally don't.

[The East Marches II]

It wasn't bait. You can the standard "white males are the real historical problem" spiel. It's a trash argument and links back to what I mentioned on the previous page. Keep up the good work recruiting for the right though. Richard Spencer and co. thank you!

Once again you repeat something I didn't say. I placed the blame on the right not the straight white male unless you find the two synonymous, I personally don't.

Can never tell with far left wingers on that front. I apologize for misinterpreting your stance.

[Ashmoria]

The events of these past 18 days make it hard to believe Trump still has fans.

Not sure if this was brought up, but Joe Lieberman is back, and apparently, is Trump's leading candidate for FBI Director.

If he nominates him, its a savvy move politically, Lieberman was well liked by many Senator's, and would once more be a pain in the Democratic Party's ass.

he is 75 years old and has been working as special council to trump's law firm.

Its a big fat NO

[The East Marches II]

The events of these past 18 days make it hard to believe Trump still has fans.

Not sure if this was brought up, but Joe Lieberman is back, and apparently, is Trump's leading candidate for FBI Director.

If he nominates him, its a savvy move politically, Lieberman was well liked by many Senator's, and would once more be a pain in the Democratic Party's ass.

he is 75 years old and has been working as special council to trump's law firm.

Its a big fat NO

He works for Trump even indirectly? How the mighty have fallen.

[Olivaero]

Once again you repeat something I didn't say. I placed the blame on the right not the straight white male unless you find the two synonymous, I personally don't.

Can never tell with far left wingers on that front. I apologize for misinterpreting your stance.

Apology accepted. It's not altogether an un-heard of conflation on the left.

In any case, I just got done watching the documentary "Get Me Roger Stone" on Netflix. It's a great watch and is probably one of the first things that has helped me properly understand Trumps rise as the culmination of the conservative movement, which started with Goldwater and that was shepherded towards Trump by people like Stone. Do people think that the Left needs more competent Stone like figures, ie. some agent provocateurs to fight fire with fire? Or should we content ourselves with the moral high ground?

[Ashmoria]

he is 75 years old and has been working as special council to trump's law firm.

Its a big fat NO

He works for Trump even indirectly? How the mighty have fallen.

he's always been an asshole. he deserves to be destroyed by trump

[The East Marches II]

Can never tell with far left wingers on that front. I apologize for misinterpreting your stance.

Apology accepted. It's not altogether an un-heard of conflation on the left.

In any case, I just got done watching the documentary "Get Me Roger Stone" on Netflix. It's a great watch and is probably one of the first things that has helped me properly understand Trumps rise, as the culmination of the conservative movement which started with Goldwater and that was shepherded towards Trump by people like Stone. Do people think that the Left needs more competent Stone like figures, ie. some agent provocateurs to fight fire with fire? Or should we content ourselves with the moral high ground?

Yes it needs more figures like that no doubt. I was reading Jacobin the other day and they had an excellent article on a guy from Weimar Germany who fit that bill. He was a Communist but he managed to run a media empire that people liked. He kept slipping themes and stuff into theater productions he would sponsor. Importantly he would keep things easy to understand. Really interesting character but the name eludes me at the moment. I will have to give that documentary a watch. In my own opinion, the moral high ground alone isn't enough to win. It's whose in office who has power, not who is "morally right" so to speak.

[Sareva]

..which is weird because teenagers are the last people to scream 'you can't tell me what to do' before slamming the door to their bedroom..

Millenials aren't teenagers, that's the next generation we haven't coined a condescending term for yet

Generation Z, described as the most conservative generation of youngsters since WWII. I'm a Libertarian and taxation is theft! o/

[Improved werpland]

Sounds like those people have ironically thin skin and are extremely spiteful, if a few bad encounters online completely change their social perspective.

Usually it's at university that sort of thing happens. They are home to a particularly cancerous form of leftism that leads to foolish statements like "Unions create a privileged class of workers". They say and do stupid shit. The Right couldn't ask for better volunteers. The level disconnect from reality that exists there does alienate people in a wonderful way.

So we have to rationalize that people are going to vote against their interests because strange people exist in academia?