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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed May 17, 2017 12:07 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Then perhaps we've a problem that we can't establish a national language that we can all speak. Multiple languages are an economic drag and lead to even larger problems over the long term.

Failure to accommodate for multiple languages slows language assimilation (ironically) as well as causing damage to the economy.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 17, 2017 12:07 pm

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I wouldn't say giving up English is the answer, but at least for this generation it makes money.


Knowing more than one language is also very helpful, especially for business that deals with clients who don't speak English very well.


I mean, it's basically asking me: "If you had a choice between quantum mechanics which is a great pick, or learning another language which will make you more money because you can talk with people who don't speak English too well, which one would you take?"

I'd take another language in a heartbeat. Quantum mechanics is cool, don't get me wrong, but it's not putting food on my table.
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The East Marches II wrote:New worlds are overrated.

That sounds like Eurotalk right there.
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Lady Scylla wrote:
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Then perhaps we've a problem that we can't establish a national language that we can all speak. Multiple languages are an economic drag and lead to even larger problems over the long term.


Well, the US doesn't have an official language anyway.


Sure and that is a problem we really should address. Language and communication matter, especially for a country. We ought to have one standard.

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Liriena wrote:Trump argued “no politician in history... has been treated worse or unfairly” by the media.

I don't know, you ugly fat c**t. I distinctly remember your predecessor having his place of birth questioned for years by an ugly fat c**t that looked an awful lot like you, all the while also getting s**t for wearing a tan suit, liking an "elitist" brand of mustard, and some non-story about him making a "latte salute".

Meanwhile, ugly fat c**t, you are getting criticized for being a vindictive, proudly stupid, shamelessly authoritarian and incompetent crook who can't even cover his own tracks when obstructing justice like a proper crook.

...So you're saying Obama got worse treatment?...Really?...


Erm, yes. By miles.
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:08 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:New worlds are overrated.

That sounds like Eurotalk right there.


Please I've done all that traveling and fun nonsense. The only letters they should know are U S and A.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed May 17, 2017 12:08 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
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Knowing more than one language is also very helpful, especially for business that deals with clients who don't speak English very well.


I mean, it's basically asking me: "If you had a choice between quantum mechanics which is a great pick, or learning another language which will make you more money because you can talk with people who don't speak English too well, which one would you take?"

I'd take another language in a heartbeat. Quantum mechanics is cool, don't get me wrong, but it's not putting food on my table.


Hell, I use Spanish quite a lot here as is.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed May 17, 2017 12:09 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Knowing more than one language is also very helpful, especially for business that deals with clients who don't speak English very well.


Then perhaps we've a problem that we can't establish a national language that we can all speak. Multiple languages are an economic drag and lead to even larger problems over the long term.


They're not really an economic drag. I mean, sure, it takes more effort and thus more money to invest in multilingual support, but it opens up markets.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed May 17, 2017 12:09 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Well, the US doesn't have an official language anyway.


Sure and that is a problem we really should address. Language and communication matter, especially for a country. We ought to have one standard.


I'll pass. That line of nationalist crap is not something I care for.

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The East Marches II wrote:Please I've done all that traveling and fun nonsense. The only letters they should know are U S and A.

>> not raising generations that can spy on our enemies private conversations

It's like you hate the alphabet agencies or something
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:09 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Then perhaps we've a problem that we can't establish a national language that we can all speak. Multiple languages are an economic drag and lead to even larger problems over the long term.

Failure to accommodate for multiple languages slows language assimilation (ironically) as well as causing damage to the economy.


No, we should crush other languages under the superior boot of English. Failure to assimilate is what got us in the mess in the first place. Totalen Language Krieg.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed May 17, 2017 12:09 pm

Liriena wrote:Trump argued “no politician in history... has been treated worse or unfairly” by the media.

I don't know, you ugly fat c**t. I distinctly remember your predecessor having his place of birth questioned for years by an ugly fat c**t that looked an awful lot like you, all the while also getting s**t for wearing a tan suit, liking an "elitist" brand of mustard, and some non-story about him making a "latte salute".

Meanwhile, ugly fat c**t, you are getting criticized for being a vindictive, proudly stupid, shamelessly authoritarian and incompetent crook who can't even cover his own tracks when obstructing justice like a proper crook.

Using a speech at the Coast Guard Academy graduation to whine and bitch about the media being mean to him. What a classy fucking snowflake.
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Please I've done all that traveling and fun nonsense. The only letters they should know are U S and A.

>> not raising generations that can spy on our enemies private conversations

It's like you hate the alphabet agencies or something


If only you could hear my chuckles, I do dislike them yes. I'm a fan freedom and all that. God damn statists.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 17, 2017 12:10 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Failure to accommodate for multiple languages slows language assimilation (ironically) as well as causing damage to the economy.


No, we should crush other languages under the superior boot of English. Failure to assimilate is what got us in the mess in the first place. Totalen Language Krieg.


>says we should crush other languages
>uses German

Pick one friendo
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed May 17, 2017 12:10 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Liriena wrote:Trump argued “no politician in history... has been treated worse or unfairly” by the media.

I don't know, you ugly fat c**t. I distinctly remember your predecessor having his place of birth questioned for years by an ugly fat c**t that looked an awful lot like you, all the while also getting s**t for wearing a tan suit, liking an "elitist" brand of mustard, and some non-story about him making a "latte salute".

Meanwhile, ugly fat c**t, you are getting criticized for being a vindictive, proudly stupid, shamelessly authoritarian and incompetent crook who can't even cover his own tracks when obstructing justice like a proper crook.

Using a speech at the Coast Guard Academy graduation to whine and bitch about the media being mean to him. What a classy fucking snowflake.


Pretty sure Ford was practically crucified for pardoning Nixon.

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:11 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Sure and that is a problem we really should address. Language and communication matter, especially for a country. We ought to have one standard.


I'll pass. That line of nationalist crap is not something I care for.


Then you've learned nothing from history it seems. You can not care for lessons all you want, doesn't make them less true.

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:11 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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No, we should crush other languages under the superior boot of English. Failure to assimilate is what got us in the mess in the first place. Totalen Language Krieg.


>says we should crush other languages
>uses German

Pick one friendo


I-I was just using it post-ironically.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed May 17, 2017 12:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:No, we should crush other languages under the superior boot of English. Failure to assimilate is what got us in the mess in the first place. Totalen Language Krieg.

When immigrants with less-than-perfect English skills are denied language assistance they tend to ghettoize. Are you in favor of Little Italies popping up over the States? LITTLE IRELANDS?
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Postby The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>says we should crush other languages
>uses German

Pick one friendo


I-I was just using it post-ironically.

Sure you were. GUARDS! TAKE HIM AWAY!
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 pm

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Ability to communicate better with the sizeable chunk of the American population whose first language is Spanish.


That means we should be treating Spanish as an equal language and effectively giving up English as the national language.


Yes, absolutely.

I see no reason to make learning languages like that mandatory.


Because it's dramatically useful to almost everybody? Far, far more useful than almost everything else learned in schools?

I do hope you won't come up with your usual "Who are you to challenge what the government decides" spiel. That would be disappointing to say the least.


I have literally never made any argument that can remotely be represented as that.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
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Then perhaps we've a problem that we can't establish a national language that we can all speak. Multiple languages are an economic drag and lead to even larger problems over the long term.


They're not really an economic drag. I mean, sure, it takes more effort and thus more money to invest in multilingual support, but it opens up markets.


They are in your own country. Taking more time and money to solve a problem which shouldn't exist in the first place. For doing business abroad, you do have an argument. Though I'm not so sure it would be useful the vast majority of the population in such a case.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I'll pass. That line of nationalist crap is not something I care for.


Then you've learned nothing from history it seems. You can not care for lessons all you want, doesn't make them less true.


Xenophobia, conflict costing millions, destabilization, and cultural stagnation. Yeah, I'm good.

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:13 pm

Salandriagado wrote:Yes, absolutely.


Nah, thats how you end up with Austria-Hungary. I'm good fam thanks.

Salandriagado wrote:Because it's dramatically useful to almost everybody? Far, far more useful than almost everything else learned in schools?


You mean more useful than being able to read and write? Thats a hell of a claim. Proofadoodledoo?

Salandriagado wrote:I have literally never made any argument that can remotely be represented as that.


That is your go to argument whenever anybody criticizes government spending. I'm just preempting your usual argument. :^)

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 17, 2017 12:14 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
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Then you've learned nothing from history it seems. You can not care for lessons all you want, doesn't make them less true.


Xenophobia, conflict costing millions, destabilization, and cultural stagnation. Yeah, I'm good.


Xenophobia isn't necessarily bad. You should do some travel, you'll see that some things really are true on that front. No conflict costing millions or destabilization. You are just salty Welsh got rekt by English and now English continues its march to dominance.

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The East Marches II wrote:If only you could hear my chuckles, I do dislike them yes. I'm a fan freedom and all that. God damn statists.

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