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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:29 pm

I got right wing populist
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Postby Godular » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:35 pm

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=72.4&d=70.5&g=67.8&s=84.2

Libertarian Socialist... seems like an oxymoron to me, but sure.
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The Burke Islands
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Burke Islands » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:36 pm

Lost the link, but I got Libertarian, no surprise there.
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Jelmatt
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Postby Jelmatt » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:42 pm

Godular wrote:https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=72.4&d=70.5&g=67.8&s=84.2

Libertarian Socialist... seems like an oxymoron to me, but sure.


tfw the first person to describe himself as politically libertarian was a socialist but people still call libertarian socialism an oxymoron
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Socialist Tera
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Postby Socialist Tera » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:11 pm

I got Democratic socialist which is surprising. I should be further left, oh well time to self criticise.
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:17 pm

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- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
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- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
- Theocracy
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Risottia » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:31 pm

Ankhmer wrote:Since it seems the 8 Values Political Test is rapidly superseding the Political Compass on social media, I thought it would be fun to make a thread devoted to taking the test and posting our results here.

Basically, the test is rather similar to the Political Compass (even "borrowing" a number of questions from it), but ranks your stance on eight opposing values to match you to a political ideology, rather than just plotting you on a quadrant.


So you mean that it's just a copy of the Political Compass but its results are plotted in four dimensions instead of two.

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Lioniel
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Lioniel » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:32 pm

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Economic Left/Right: -1.63
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Postby Tzion and Jerusalem » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:39 pm

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Tzion and Jerusalem
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Postby Tzion and Jerusalem » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:41 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:I got right wing populist

Same, but I don't self-identify as that
I would say I'm a centre-right populist
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Hansdeltania
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Hansdeltania » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:43 pm

I am:
Economically: Communist (not surprised)
Diplomatically: Balanced, favoring peace more than power (I'm surprised)
Civilly: Moderate, favoring liberty more than authority
Socially: Very progressive (85.8% in favor of progress)

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Qasheer
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Kilobugya
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Kilobugya » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:56 pm

Secular humanist and trans-humanist, rationalist, democratic socialist, pacifist, dreaming very high to not perform too low.
Economic Left/Right: -9.50 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69

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Neu Leonstein
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:57 pm

At this stage, any political test that doesn't include a clear 'nationalist vs internationalist' axis kinda misses the point, no?
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:57 pm

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 5.8&s=58.1

Centrist, and the "neutral" label for everything.

I don't agree that I have a heart full of neutrality or whatever - the test seems a bit flawed for having such high thresholds before giving a meaningful result. There are intermediary points between the centre and the extremes which also have labels.

Not one of my favourite tests.
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Postby Tzion and Jerusalem » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:57 pm

Qasheer wrote:https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=67.3&d=55.1&g=37.5&s=58.3

I donnu what is populism tho

When politicians gather a following like Trump or the Euroskeptics often in demand for radical change based of non-centrist views
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Postby Pilarcraft » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:04 am

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 3.0&s=97.7
Well, I got Libertarian Socialist.
hmm. sounds right.
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Left-wing Utopia

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Aision
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Postby Aision » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:34 am

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Maybe somewhat more capitalistic, but, all in all, sounds about right.
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They've changed one of the labels
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Ariddia
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Ariddia » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:04 am

I'm a democratic socialist, it appears. Although some questions were so vaguely phrased that I had to click "unsure" due to the lack of nuance.

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Peaceful: 61.7%
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Postby Jankau-Helmutsberg » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:13 am

It doesn't fit. It's too big. Moderate conservatism.
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Vistora
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Capitalizt

Postby Vistora » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:14 am

Jelmatt wrote:
Vistora wrote:

Holistically, it's definitely accurate in its diagnosis of me as a classical liberal, but there are a few notable points of criticism I have for it.

Firstly, it lacks a Nationalism/Nativism - Globalism/Cosmopolitanism spectrum, something I believe to be virtually indispensable to any political test relevant to modern times (you can imagine my frustration at having found so few who acknowledge this crucial dimension). As it stands, that axis appears to be lumped in with Might - Peace, which I believe to be a mistake, leading also into my second criticism.

The conflation of nationalism and militarism is common and understandably correlated, but also severely limiting. I happen to be both a radical globalist and extremely in favor of multilateral, usually humanitarian interventionism. For me, the two go hand-in-hand, which cannot really be expressed in this test, regrettably. The same is true for nationalist isolationists, of which I believe there are many, who are likewise disregarded by such a combining of metrics.

I would also prefer to have democracy separated from civil liberties, but they are slightly more difficult to extricate.

Other than that, I don't have any major complaints, and I like how it expands greatly upon the admittedly overrated Political Compass.

However, I do vaguely recall viewing a diagram showing somebody's results for a test with at up to nine axes, or at least no fewer than seven. I don't suppose anyone here is acquainted with some such test?


I agree with you on the nationalism<->cosmopolitanism axis. That is empirically one of the most important dimensions in politics, especially British politics (and maybe the rest of Europe, idk). Though with America, maybe less so, although the rise of Donald Trump has brought this dimension more into light.

As for splitting the liberty<->authority axis into libertarian<->statist and democratic<->autocratic axes, I don't think that's really necessary. They are highly correlated, and although there may certainly be liberal autocrats and restrictive democrats, support for democracy and support for civil liberties are very hard to separate. Most people who support one support the other. Exceptions are just that: exceptions.

The test I think you're thinking of is this one: http://politicaltest.net/en/, although it's currently not working.


Yeah, you make a good point. And I have indeed tried that test before, only to be disappointed by it being broken...

Perhaps I'll send my advice over to them.

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Corrupt Dictatorship

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