Do you think that punishing pornographers would right?

[KrakenCo]

The world pop. is 7.5 Bil. and growing, and our planet can't take it. But sure, let's reproduce more, that won't be harmful at all, nope...

It is the fault of all the poor countries along with China and India. All of the Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs, and such appear to reproduce way too much. None of these groups should be expanding. They're hogging more than their fair share of the gene pool. Only the populations of the wealthy countries (with no immigrants included) should be reproducing at present. In other words, the White people.

inb4muhracism

[Hashirajima]

Porn is for people who don't have partners to breed with.

Do you know that such category includes even a lot of misogynists who hate women because they can't get laid?

However: no, the main problem is men who watch porn and then become abusive towards all women but particularly towards their partners.

Note that I'm not saying that you're wrong. I have no idea since I don't have the data on hand.

But since you're the one making the point... *smile*

[Fartsniffage]

The world pop. is 7.5 Bil. and growing, and our planet can't take it. But sure, let's reproduce more, that won't be harmful at all, nope...

It is the fault of all the poor countries along with China and India. All of the Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs, and such appear to reproduce way too much. None of these groups should be expanding. They're hogging more than their fair share of the gene pool. Only the populations of the wealthy countries (with no immigrants included) should be reproducing at present. In other words, the White people.

What a bunch of shit.

[Ifreann]

To which, instead of better sex education to combat the unrealism (is that even a word?) of pornography and instill healthy attitudes toward sex, you've proposed the equivalents of using a chainsaw to perform brain surgery.

I don't live in USA: we have extensive sex education in the school since decades, and still porn is a problem.

Most egregious is this tacit endorsement of allowing the government to mandate content blocking on electronic devices? With absolutely no concept of how such a thing would be misused to further the oppression of groups like gender and sexual minorities?

That depends by the government, mainly by their political orientation, but also the number of women in the government plays a role (that's why gender quotas for politics are so important).
"Lesbian" pornography is a fake just only meant for men, by the way...

All pornography is fake and meant for some audience. The only exception would be porn made without the knowledge of those on camera, which obviously has other problems.

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It is the fault of all the poor countries along with China and India. All of the Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs, and such appear to reproduce way too much. None of these groups should be expanding. They're hogging more than their fair share of the gene pool. Only the populations of the wealthy countries (with no immigrants included) should be reproducing at present. In other words, the White people.

inb4muhracism

Everyone is well aware of Saiwania's racist beliefs, so we don't feel the need to point out how racist they are every single time.

[Hashirajima]

The world pop. is 7.5 Bil. and growing, and our planet can't take it. But sure, let's reproduce more, that won't be harmful at all, nope...

It is the fault of all the poor countries along with China and India. All of the Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs, and such appear to reproduce way too much. None of these groups should be expanding. They're hogging more than their fair share of the gene pool. Only the populations of the wealthy countries (with no immigrants included) should be reproducing at present. In other words, the White people.

Strong in the ways of racism, this one is...

Also... ... (referring to the bolded part) I don't think you understand how gene pools work...

[The Israeli SR]

The world pop. is 7.5 Bil. and growing, and our planet can't take it. But sure, let's reproduce more, that won't be harmful at all, nope...

It is the fault of all the poor countries along with China and India. All of the Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs, and such appear to reproduce way too much. None of these groups should be expanding. They're hogging more than their fair share of the gene pool. Only the populations of the wealthy countries (with no immigrants included) should be reproducing at present. In other words, the White people.

False. Racially disproportionate fertility rates are due to the lack of access to contraceptives, family planning services, STD unawareness and lack of general education due to how the majority of Asia and Africa are highly undeveloped. That is the fault of nearly a century of colonial exploitation, which was ended by packing conflicting ethnic groups into ignorant national boundaries and pushing them into the deep end. Also, of predatory financiers and extreme corruption rates due to the aforementioned lack of adequate education and authoritarianism in the most impoverished regions (Zimbabwe, Botswana, Mozambique, CAR, DRC, Liberia, Azerbaijan, India, so on and so forth). If these regions were given ample access to education, development grants, infrastructural projects and fair trade, given several years of development, fertility rates would level off as they have in the developed world, i.e., with your White people. You do yourself a favor, with your supremacist approach, ironically, by helping Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs and such in their socioeconomic conditions. Until you do, you can keep complaining in vain hypocrisy about the consequences of the same mindset you represent.

[Saiwania]

You do yourself a favor, with your supremacist approach, ironically, by helping Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs and such in their socioeconomic conditions. Until you do, you can keep complaining in vain hypocrisy about the consequences of the same mindset you represent.

This is what pisses me off most about human nature. People knowingly have children they can't afford when they're dirt poor and when people have more than enough money to live well, they don't reproduce much if at all; statistically speaking. The world shouldn't be this way. It ought to be that people do their best to only ever live within their means.

[Genivaria]

You do yourself a favor, with your supremacist approach, ironically, by helping Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs and such in their socioeconomic conditions. Until you do, you can keep complaining in vain hypocrisy about the consequences of the same mindset you represent.

This is what pisses me off most about human nature. People knowingly have children they can't afford when they're dirt poor and when people have more than enough money to live well, they don't reproduce much if at all; statistically speaking. The world shouldn't be this way. It ought to be that people do their best to only ever live within their means.

The idea is that those who live in poverty need more hands to work to support the family.
If I have 1 child who dies then boom next generation gone.
If I have 10 children and 7 die then I still have 3 left.

Families in more developed countries usually don't have to use that crude logic because the life expectancy for children is generally higher with somewhat of an exception (and this is important) those who don't embrace modern views on family and sexuality.

You want to talk about poverty and families?

The Bible Belt seems to have a serious problem with poverty.

And here's an example of the states with the highest life expectancy vs the lowest.

http://abc13.com/health/which-states-ci ... st/151639/

Now how exactly is race a factor?

[Genivaria]

It really is unsettling how much Saudi Arabia and Chessmistress would agree.

[Gauthier]

It really is unsettling how much Saudi Arabia and Chessmistress would agree.

Next step: Banning sex altogether and limiting reproduction to IVF.

[Valgora]

It really is unsettling how much Saudi Arabia and Chessmistress would agree.

Next step: Banning sex altogether and limiting reproduction to IVF.

Brave New World comes true.
Minus the banning sex part.

[Oneracon]

It really is unsettling how much Saudi Arabia and Chessmistress would agree.

There is a disturbing overlap in the beliefs between anti-sex/anti-porn feminists and religious social conservatives. As I mentioned before: see the 1980s alliances between anti-pornography feminists like Catherine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin with the Christian Right in the United States.

[The Israeli SR]

This is what pisses me off most about human nature. People knowingly have children they can't afford when they're dirt poor and when people have more than enough money to live well, they don't reproduce much if at all; statistically speaking. The world shouldn't be this way. It ought to be that people do their best to only ever live within their means.

The idea is that those who live in poverty need more hands to work to support the family.
If I have 1 child who dies then boom next generation gone.
If I have 10 children and 7 die then I still have 3 left.

Bingo. In places where survival, rather than prosperity, is the primary concern, it's impossible to judge how many children you'll have just before maintaining the family size. When you have diseases like AIDS, Ebola, Malaria and little access to modern healthcare methods and equipment, and in such a hostile ecosystem that Africa and Asia often are, child mortality rates and miscarriage is many times more common. You have a lot of children because you're rightfully certain that most of them won't make it to adulthood. That's not much of a problem in America and Europe.

It was true in Europe and America at one point as well, that people had many children and only some reached adulthood. But as the story goes, once the industrial age came to pass and nations produced as much food as they could ever need, developed effective medical practice and increased in literacy, child mortality fell through the floor, and people stopped having so many children because it was, is, no longer necessary to have more than two or three who will almost definitely reach adulthood. So much so that in some cases, like the nation of Japan, the population is declining. But that's an extreme case where Japan has a lot going on in terms of the work culture and demography, so that should mostly resolve itself in time.

[Major-Tom]

I'm not a fan of porn. I stay away from it entirely. But thats a personal choice. If someone wants to make porn between consenting, of age adults, and there is a market for it, go ahead. So long as it's regulated properly.

Shouldn't that be the end of it?

[New haven america]

This is what pisses me off most about human nature. People knowingly have children they can't afford when they're dirt poor and when people have more than enough money to live well, they don't reproduce much if at all; statistically speaking. The world shouldn't be this way. It ought to be that people do their best to only ever live within their means.

The idea is that those who live in poverty need more hands to work to support the family.
If I have 1 child who dies then boom next generation gone.
If I have 10 children and 7 die then I still have 3 left.

Families in more developed countries usually don't have to use that crude logic because the life expectancy for children is generally higher with somewhat of an exception (and this is important) those who don't embrace modern views on family and sexuality.

You want to talk about poverty and families?

The Bible Belt seems to have a serious problem with poverty.

And here's an example of the states with the highest life expectancy vs the lowest.

http://abc13.com/health/which-states-ci ... st/151639/

Now how exactly is race a factor?

Sai will always find ways to make race a factor, whether it applies to a topic or not

[New haven america]

It really is unsettling how much Saudi Arabia and Chessmistress would agree.

Honestly, all you have to do is reverse the gender roles, and I'm pretty sure that would be akin to Chess' ideal society...

[KrakenCo]

I'm not a fan of porn. I stay away from it entirely. But thats a personal choice. If someone wants to make porn between consenting, of age adults, and there is a market for it, go ahead. So long as it's regulated properly.

Shouldn't that be the end of it?

No, because most radical feminists love to shove their stupid ideologies down our throats

[Oneracon]

I'm not a fan of porn. I stay away from it entirely. But thats a personal choice. If someone wants to make porn between consenting, of age adults, and there is a market for it, go ahead. So long as it's regulated properly.

Shouldn't that be the end of it?

No, because most radical feminists love to shove their stupid ideologies down our throats

Hence why sex-positive feminism is great.

You want to have sex? Great, sex between consenting adults is fun!
You don't want to have sex? Great, it's your choice what you do with your body!
You like to watch (some/all/whatever) pornography? Great, you do you!
You don't like to watch (some/all/whatever) pornography? Great, no one is saying you have to!
etc...

[Thermodolia]

To which, instead of better sex education to combat the unrealism (is that even a word?) of pornography and instill healthy attitudes toward sex, you've proposed the equivalents of using a chainsaw to perform brain surgery.

I don't live in USA: we have extensive sex education in the school since decades, and still porn is a problem.

Most egregious is this tacit endorsement of allowing the government to mandate content blocking on electronic devices? With absolutely no concept of how such a thing would be misused to further the oppression of groups like gender and sexual minorities?

That depends by the government, mainly by their political orientation, but also the number of women in the government plays a role (that's why gender quotas for politics are so important).
"Lesbian" pornography is a fake just only meant for men, by the way...

Are you a lesbian? Because I've been told otherwise by actual lesbians

[Thermodolia]

I'm not a fan of porn. I stay away from it entirely. But thats a personal choice. If someone wants to make porn between consenting, of age adults, and there is a market for it, go ahead. So long as it's regulated properly.

Shouldn't that be the end of it?

No, because most radical feminists love to shove their stupid ideologies down our throats

Radical feminists aren't the only ones trying to do when it comes to porn. The religious conservatives would love to ban porn.

[KrakenCo]

No, because most radical feminists love to shove their stupid ideologies down our throats

Radical feminists aren't the only ones trying to do when it comes to porn. The religious conservatives would love to ban porn.

I'm religious but still watch porn regularly...does that count as lust?

seekingforgivenessfromgod.exe

[Thermodolia]

Radical feminists aren't the only ones trying to do when it comes to porn. The religious conservatives would love to ban porn.

I'm religious but still watch porn regularly...does that count as lust?

seekingforgivenessfromgod.exe

I don't know.

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[KrakenCo]

I'm religious but still watch porn regularly...does that count as lust?

seekingforgivenessfromgod.exe

I don't know.

seekingforgivenessfromgod.exe not found

rip

[Oneracon]

I don't live in USA: we have extensive sex education in the school since decades, and still porn is a problem.



That depends by the government, mainly by their political orientation, but also the number of women in the government plays a role (that's why gender quotas for politics are so important).
"Lesbian" pornography is a fake just only meant for men, by the way...

Are you a lesbian? Because I've been told otherwise by actual lesbians

I mean, she has a point in that a lot of so-called "lesbian" pornography is really just targeted toward straight dudes. But that A) doesn't necessarily stop some wlw from finding said porn hot since it's still sexy ladies and B) disregards the production of porn (in many cases by wlw) that is specifically targeted to wlw


...and C) completely missed the point I was actually trying to make.

[Neo Balka]

weirdly enough, they executed a bunch of people in North Korea for making porn.