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There should be some form of punishment related to pornography?

Fines for producers only
7
2%
Fines for all people involved in production (even actors)
9
2%
Fines even for the users
3
1%
Criminalization of producers
12
3%
Criminalization for all people involved in production (even actors)
15
4%
Criminalization for all people involved + fines for the users
10
2%
Criminalization even for the users
8
2%
Awareness campaigns only
37
9%
Pornography is free speech
325
76%
 
Total votes : 426

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Postby Arkinesia » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:50 am

Chessmistress wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:A website that's against porn couldn't possibly have gotten their hands on biased studies.

Also Utah, South Dakota, and Virginia aren't bastions of liberalism. Hell Utah is full of religiously conservative Mormons so they believe that porn is bad because their god says it is


Do you know that there's a bill in 12-13 states in USA that would block porn in all new computers/tablets/mobiles unless the user pays $20 to unlock it (the $20 can be paid just only by adults and are meant to fund the new filter in all devices), do you know it, right?

Yeah, they're all bills written by Christian theocrats, too. Not exactly a science-based belief system to use as a measuring stick.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:14 am

Arkinesia wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
Do you know that there's a bill in 12-13 states in USA that would block porn in all new computers/tablets/mobiles unless the user pays $20 to unlock it (the $20 can be paid just only by adults and are meant to fund the new filter in all devices), do you know it, right?

Yeah, they're all bills written by Christian theocrats, too. Not exactly a science-based belief system to use as a measuring stick.

Most of whom likely have secret porn binges and/or stashes.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:53 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Ransomware as law. Hilarious.


It's more that you are trying to implement security systems where the person you expect to be the attacker has unlimited unsupervised physical access to the machine.

My grandmother, who is in her 80s, jail broke her iPhone by herself.

I was so proud.
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Postby Valgora » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:12 pm

I've noticed something about the people debating in this thread:

There is a very small number of radical feminists (I think about 2, including the OP) who argue for the OP's ideas.
There is a larger group of people agreeing with the OP; however, their reasons tend to involve morality and religious sentiment.
Then there is basically everyone else who is against the OP's ideas.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:37 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:A website that's against porn couldn't possibly have gotten their hands on biased studies.

Also Utah, South Dakota, and Virginia aren't bastions of liberalism. Hell Utah is full of religiously conservative Mormons so they believe that porn is bad because their god says it is


Do you know that there's a bill in 12-13 states in USA that would block porn in all new computers/tablets/mobiles unless the user pays $20 to unlock it (the $20 can be paid just only by adults and are meant to fund the new filter in all devices), do you know it, right?

And then we all start merrily skipping down the road to Gilead. Hooray!

You do realize that as soon as you allow the government to implement content blocking on electronic devices they won't stop, right? Today it's pornography sites, tomorrow it's Planned Parenthood and GLAAD.
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Postby KrakenCo » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:24 pm

Galloism wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
It's more that you are trying to implement security systems where the person you expect to be the attacker has unlimited unsupervised physical access to the machine.

My grandmother, who is in her 80s, jail broke her iPhone by herself.

I was so proud.



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Postby Arkinesia » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:46 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:Yeah, they're all bills written by Christian theocrats, too. Not exactly a science-based belief system to use as a measuring stick.

Most of whom likely have secret porn binges and/or stashes.

Exactly.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:30 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
Do you know that there's a bill in 12-13 states in USA that would block porn in all new computers/tablets/mobiles unless the user pays $20 to unlock it (the $20 can be paid just only by adults and are meant to fund the new filter in all devices), do you know it, right?

And then we all start merrily skipping down the road to Gilead. Hooray!

You do realize that as soon as you allow the government to implement content blocking on electronic devices they won't stop, right? Today it's pornography sites, tomorrow it's Planned Parenthood and GLAAD.

And in those states that have put up such legislation, they would definitely do such things
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:20 pm

Dear fucking god why.

No....

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Postby Ankhmer » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:55 pm

As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, I don't see what the issue is.
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Postby Esno-Calarin » Mon May 01, 2017 5:50 am

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Postby Saiwania » Mon May 01, 2017 2:24 pm

Chessmistress wrote:In Sweden there's actually a massive survey about sexuality: the government is worried about people having less sex than in the past. Results are expected to be published in 2019. I bet 1,000 $ that they'll find a correlation between pornography and the lack of sex, and they'll crack on porn. Harshly, not so lightly as asking 20 $.


Or perhaps many of the people who don't have sex don't simply because they're a shut in and have few to no relationships going on in their life. Sex can be thought of as a "multiplayer only" sort of activity. If someone is set in their ways and doesn't go out of their way to go out and meet and talk to new people who'd possibly want to know them past the platonic stage, then no amount of outside help or intervention is going to change that. Banning porn certainly isn't going to make it go away. Nerds and geeks will always be "uncool." The simple fact is that there will be a portion of people who just won't accomplish all or even some of the milestones that society expects of them. There are winners and losers.
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Postby Betoni » Tue May 02, 2017 11:39 am

Should be regulated much more strictly and the actors/actresses should have a strong union(s). I don't think the porn industry workers have a great deal of say in their working conditions, it's not really that different from some other career in that regard, but yeah.

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Postby Kekonistan » Tue May 02, 2017 11:41 am

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with breeding in order to populate the country. Therefore I do not see anything inherently bad in pornography as long as it contributes to a more sexual active population.

Gay and lesbian porn does not include to this.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 02, 2017 11:44 am

Kekonistan wrote:In my opinion there is nothing wrong with breeding in order to populate the country. Therefore I do not see anything inherently bad in pornography as long as it contributes to a more sexual active population.

Gay and lesbian porn does not include to this.

Porn doesn't really contribute to reproduction
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Postby Kekonistan » Tue May 02, 2017 11:46 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Kekonistan wrote:In my opinion there is nothing wrong with breeding in order to populate the country. Therefore I do not see anything inherently bad in pornography as long as it contributes to a more sexual active population.

Gay and lesbian porn does not include to this.

Porn doesn't really contribute to reproduction

Well, in that case, we're better off without.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue May 02, 2017 11:55 am

Kekonistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Porn doesn't really contribute to reproduction

Well, in that case, we're better off without.

*shrug* I guess some of us figure there's more to life than breeding
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Postby Kekonistan » Tue May 02, 2017 11:56 am

Alvecia wrote:
Kekonistan wrote:Well, in that case, we're better off without.

*shrug* I guess some of us figure there's more to life than breeding

Yes, fapping and hence wasting semen is definitely something more good.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 02, 2017 11:57 am

Kekonistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Porn doesn't really contribute to reproduction

Well, in that case, we're better off without.

Over my dead body.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue May 02, 2017 12:07 pm

Kekonistan wrote:
Alvecia wrote:*shrug* I guess some of us figure there's more to life than breeding

Yes, fapping and hence wasting semen is definitely something more good.

Than not doing so? Yeah, I'd agree. I'd take a good wank over blue balls any day.
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Postby Kekonistan » Tue May 02, 2017 12:10 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Kekonistan wrote:Yes, fapping and hence wasting semen is definitely something more good.

Than not doing so? Yeah, I'd agree. I'd take a good wank over blue balls any day.

In my opinion, it's better to impregnate a woman and get children than fapping.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue May 02, 2017 12:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kekonistan wrote:Well, in that case, we're better off without.

Over my dead body.

Killing someone over porn doesn't sound very healthy. Just saying... :unsure:
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 02, 2017 12:36 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kekonistan wrote:In my opinion there is nothing wrong with breeding in order to populate the country. Therefore I do not see anything inherently bad in pornography as long as it contributes to a more sexual active population.

Gay and lesbian porn does not include to this.

Porn doesn't really contribute to reproduction

Porn is for people who don't have partners to breed with.
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Postby New haven america » Tue May 02, 2017 12:42 pm

Kekonistan wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Than not doing so? Yeah, I'd agree. I'd take a good wank over blue balls any day.

In my opinion, it's better to impregnate a woman and get children than fapping.

The world pop. is 7.5 Bil. and growing, and our planet can't take it.

But sure, let's reproduce more, that won't be harmful at all, nope...
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 02, 2017 12:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kekonistan wrote:In my opinion, it's better to impregnate a woman and get children than fapping.

The world pop. is 7.5 Bil. and growing, and our planet can't take it.

But sure, let's reproduce more, that won't be harmful at all, nope...

Because using "kek" unitonically is a sure sign of responsible parenting material.
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