Do you think that punishing pornographers would right?

[Neutraligon]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects. It is obviously a general harm to society. On the other hand, pornography could be considered a freedom of expression. Personally, I don't think having the right to do something means you shoulddo something.

If the person is not married how can it be adulterous? As for the sex object thing, there are men in porn and there is porn that does not relegate people to sex objects.

[Galloism]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects. It is obviously a general harm to society. On the other hand, pornography could be considered a freedom of expression. Personally, I don't think having the right to do something means you shoulddo something.

If the person is not married how can it be adulterous? As for the sex object thing, there are men in porn and there is porn that does not relegate people to sex objects.

Fornicatous is hard to say.

[Great Minarchistan]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects. It is obviously a general harm to society. On the other hand, pornography could be considered a freedom of expression. Personally, I don't think having the right to do something means you shoulddo something.

tfw you realize femdom porn exists

[Neutraligon]

If the person is not married how can it be adulterous? As for the sex object thing, there are men in porn and there is porn that does not relegate people to sex objects.

Fornicatous is hard to say.

Doesn't that need actual sex. Does masturbation count as forni...however it is said? Also OP, the only pornographers that should be punished are those who create pornography without the consent of the people doing the porn, those who kill during porn, and those who steal and release private porn.

[The Emerald World]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects. It is obviously a general harm to society.

Gay porn is a thing.

[Galloism]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects. It is obviously a general harm to society.

Gay porn is a thing.

I'd say thinking every video of a man and woman having sex relegates the woman, and only the woman, to a sex object in every scenario implies a deep seated sexism against women, that women, and only women, are so weak and passive that this can be done by a mere video camera.

[Neutraligon]

Gay porn is a thing.

I'd say thinking every video of a man and woman having sex relegates the woman, and only the woman, to a sex object in every scenario implies a deep seated sexism against women, that women, and only women, are so weak and passive that this can be done by a mere video camera.

Or that women somehow don't want to have sex. Why is a woman who is an active participant in sex seen as a sex object?

[The Emerald World]

I'd say thinking every video of a man and woman having sex relegates the woman, and only the woman, to a sex object in every scenario implies a deep seated sexism against women, that women, and only women, are so weak and passive that this can be done by a mere video camera.

Or that women somehow don't want to have sex. Why is a woman who is an active participant in sex seen as a sex object?

I'd imagine that a person who thinks that women who are active participants are sex objects would think so because the woman is being used by the man for sexual pleasure.

But on the other hand, the same argument can be used by people who think that men who are active participants are sex objects because the woman is using the man for sexual pleasure.

[Galloism]

Or that women somehow don't want to have sex. Why is a woman who is an active participant in sex seen as a sex object?

I'd imagine that a person who thinks that women who are active participants are sex objects would think so because the woman is being used by the man for sexual pleasure.

But on the other hand, the same argument can be used by people who think that men who are active participants are sex objects because the woman is using the man for sexual pleasure.

Or we could all recognize that people get paid to do jobs we wouldn't personally do.

[New haven america]

IIRC, radfems think that dominant women are hurting themselves because they're living out a "Male power fantasy."

And bear porn still encourages objectification of women because one of the men "simulates traditional female submissive role".

Obviously.

[Cetacea]

Where is the "regulate the industry" option in the polls?

How would regulated porn be? "Condom is mandatory"?

Besides mandatory condoms and requirements for regular clear STD tests, here is a list of things banned from porn in the UK

- infliction of pain or acts which may cause lasting physical harm

- sexual activity which involves real or apparent lack of consent

- penetration by any object associated with violence

- sexual threats, humiliation or abuse which do not form part of a clearly consenting role-playing game

- any form of physical restraint which prevents participants from indicating a withdrawal of consent

- material (including dialogue) likely to encourage an interest in sexually abusive activity which may include adults role-playing as non-adults

The guidelines are non-exhaustive and subject to interpretation.

[Liriena]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects.

Gay and solo male porn don't exist?

Also, not to incur in a violation of this site's PG-13 policy, but there is at least one porn producer I know of that produces female-oriented straight porn (that is, porn that arguably relegates men into sex objects).

[Chessmistress]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects.

Gay and solo male porn don't exist?

Gloria Steinem

On the issue of same-sex pornography, Steinem asserts, "Whatever the gender of the participants, all pornography including male-male gay pornography is an imitation of the male-female, conqueror-victim paradigm, and almost all of it actually portrays or implies enslaved women and master."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_St ... ornography

I don't think that solo porn is a relevant percentage.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Gay and solo male porn don't exist?

Gloria Steinem

On the issue of same-sex pornography, Steinem asserts, "Whatever the gender of the participants, all pornography including male-male gay pornography is an imitation of the male-female, conqueror-victim paradigm, and almost all of it actually portrays or implies enslaved women and master."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_St ... ornography

I don't think that solo porn is a relevant percentage.

By that logic all gay romance is just a crude imitation of hetero romance.

[Valgora]

Gay and solo male porn don't exist?

Gloria Steinem

On the issue of same-sex pornography, Steinem asserts, "Whatever the gender of the participants, all pornography including male-male gay pornography is an imitation of the male-female, conqueror-victim paradigm, and almost all of it actually portrays or implies enslaved women and master."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_St ... ornography

I don't think that solo porn is a relevant percentage.

That Gloria Steinem is a fucking idiot.

I've seen many a lesbian pornography that didn't involve an "imitation of the male-female, conqueror-victim paradigm" and I don't watch porn that "portrays or implies enslaved women and master" because I don't like that stuff.

What Gloria says is bullshit!

[Arlenton]

Wait. Are you saying you want porn illegal?


What hell.

[Galloism]

Gay and solo male porn don't exist?

Gloria Steinem

On the issue of same-sex pornography, Steinem asserts, "Whatever the gender of the participants, all pornography including male-male gay pornography is an imitation of the male-female, conqueror-victim paradigm, and almost all of it actually portrays or implies enslaved women and master."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_St ... ornography

I don't think that solo porn is a relevant percentage.

Yes, Steinem is a nutjob. We knew this.

[Liriena]

Gay and solo male porn don't exist?

Gloria Steinem

On the issue of same-sex pornography, Steinem asserts, "Whatever the gender of the participants, all pornography including male-male gay pornography is an imitation of the male-female, conqueror-victim paradigm, and almost all of it actually portrays or implies enslaved women and master."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_St ... ornography

The claim that "almost all of it actually portrays or implies enslaved women and master", based on my personal experience, is at least a gross exaggeration. Same goes for her implication that the male-female and conqueror-victim paradigms are necessarily equivalent.

I would agree that, in the mainstream gay porn industry, there are tinges of an underlying heteronormativity, and related gender roles, in how some content is produced, but that's not true for all or even most of it.

I don't think that solo porn is a relevant percentage.

You'd be surprised, specially in the age of amateur performers.

[Galloism]

I don't think that solo porn is a relevant percentage.

You'd be surprised, specially in the age of amateur performers.

I can personally confirm there is plenty of it.

[Liriena]

You'd be surprised, specially in the age of amateur performers.

I can personally confirm there is plenty of it.

Men, women and everyone in between, having some alone fun and getting the stuff in their Amazon wishlists all at the same time. What a time to be alive! :3

[Great Minarchistan]

Besides mandatory condoms and requirements for regular clear STD tests, here is a list of things banned from porn in the UK

- infliction of pain or acts which may cause lasting physical harm

- penetration by any object associated with violence

- material (including dialogue) likely to encourage an interest in sexually abusive activity which may include adults role-playing as non-adults

So UK is creating the tofu porn industry? Next one they'll censor the genitalia from each partner. With black squares.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I can personally confirm there is plenty of it.

Men, women and everyone in between, having some alone fun and getting the stuff in their Amazon wishlists all at the same time. What a time to be alive! :3

Seriously, it's a great way to get some side cash

[Liriena]

How would regulated porn be? "Condom is mandatory"?

Besides mandatory condoms and requirements for regular clear STD tests, here is a list of things banned from porn in the UK

- infliction of pain or acts which may cause lasting physical harm

- sexual activity which involves real or apparent lack of consent

- penetration by any object associated with violence

- sexual threats, humiliation or abuse which do not form part of a clearly consenting role-playing game

- any form of physical restraint which prevents participants from indicating a withdrawal of consent

- material (including dialogue) likely to encourage an interest in sexually abusive activity which may include adults role-playing as non-adults

The guidelines are non-exhaustive and subject to interpretation.

Sounds like BDSM porn is stuck in a bit of a limbo in the UK, if that's the case.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Besides mandatory condoms and requirements for regular clear STD tests, here is a list of things banned from porn in the UK

- infliction of pain or acts which may cause lasting physical harm

- sexual activity which involves real or apparent lack of consent

- penetration by any object associated with violence

- sexual threats, humiliation or abuse which do not form part of a clearly consenting role-playing game

- any form of physical restraint which prevents participants from indicating a withdrawal of consent

- material (including dialogue) likely to encourage an interest in sexually abusive activity which may include adults role-playing as non-adults

The guidelines are non-exhaustive and subject to interpretation.

Sounds like BDSM porn is stuck in a bit of a limbo in the UK, if that's the case.

Nooooooooooooooooo

[Liriena]

Sounds like BDSM porn is stuck in a bit of a limbo in the UK, if that's the case.

Nooooooooooooooooo

Goddammit, Great Britain! You can't leave us alone with just the American and German stuff! We demand good BDSM porn with English, Welsh and Scottish accents, you bawbags!