Do you think that punishing pornographers would right?

[United Muscovite Nations]

As stated in the OP, the main worries aren't about what happens within the sexrape industry, but what happens to men when the final product reach them, and how those men behave towards women.
That's why "regulate the sexrape industry" cannot be really effective to fight such outcome.

As brought up multiple times (You can look through the thread), porn actually lowers rape and sexual violence. Though, I'm not surprised you ignored those post, you tend to do that.

There's nothing but possible correlation to back that up.

[Gauthier]

That was 3-4 decades ago, young one.

I provided much more recent evidence that Reagan is loved. Just accept that your "Most people hate Reagan" was completely full of shit.

Unless Reagan did a porn movie I don't see how he's relevant here.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I provided much more recent evidence that Reagan is loved. Just accept that your "Most people hate Reagan" was completely full of shit.

This isn't the topic to talk about fucking Regan.

This topic to talk about fucking porn and prostitution and how the OP is wrong about it.

The point was to show that consensus doesn't lead to good decision making.

[Galloism]

As stated in the OP, the main worries aren't about what happens within the sexrape industry, but what happens to men when the final product reach them, and how those men behave towards women.
That's why "regulate the sexrape industry" cannot be really effective to fight such outcome.

If porn drove all men to rape, why isn't there a rape apocalypse all over the world? I've watched porn and I haven't felt like raping the first woman that gets close to me.

I've been using porn as an exercise program. Once I can do everything in it, I'll know I'm fit again.

[Great Minarchistan]

Where is the "regulate the industry" option in the polls?

As stated in the OP, the main worries aren't about what happens within the sexrape industry, but what happens to men when the final product reach them, and how those men behave towards women.
That's why "regulate the sexrape industry" cannot be really effective to fight such outcome.

tfw porn and prostitution is rape

> Poor
> Chooses prostitution when she could go to McDonalds and Walmart
> "rape"

Radfem is such a meme idk if anyone but Chessmistress takes it seriously here.

[Bressen]

As brought up multiple times (You can look through the thread), porn actually lowers rape and sexual violence. Though, I'm not surprised you ignored those post, you tend to do that.

There's nothing but possible correlation to back that up.

whereas the opposite viewpoint literally has nothing to back it up

[Galloism]

I provided much more recent evidence that Reagan is loved. Just accept that your "Most people hate Reagan" was completely full of shit.

Unless Reagan did a porn movie I don't see how he's relevant here.

Make that notion go away forever.

[Salandriagado]

Where is the "regulate the industry" option in the polls?

How would regulated porn be? "Condom is mandatory"?

Taxes, working conditions, minimum wages, working time restrictions, benefits, etc.

[Bressen]

As stated in the OP, the main worries aren't about what happens within the sexrape industry, but what happens to men when the final product reach them, and how those men behave towards women.
That's why "regulate the sexrape industry" cannot be really effective to fight such outcome.

tfw porn and prostitution is rape

> Poor
> Chooses prostitution when she could go to McDonalds and Walmart
> "rape"

Radfem is such a meme idk if anyone but Chessmistress takes it seriously here.

but she didn't actually choose to have consensual sex for money because she's not able to make her own decisions because patriarchy, so it must be rape

checkmatemistress

[Oneracon]

Given the level of confusion about the meaning of pornography, it may be useful if it is defined for the purposes of this paper. The (unanimous) Canadian Supreme Court redefinition of pornography, in February 1992, as material that degrades women or promotes violence is the interpretation used here (Supreme Court of Canada 1992). This paper's concern is not about putting fig leaves on classical statues; it is about the increasingly virulent tide of material in which the primary concern appears to be to demean women and reassert their treatment as inferiors

Either I'm reading this wrong, or the Canadian Supreme Court made a drastic and extremely idiotic decision to redefine pornography in such a way that it always degrades or promotes violence against women.
If it's the latter, then surely the study of the correlation between pornography and sexual violence is inherently flawed as it uses a definition that categorises pornography in such a way that it has to be degrading or violent towards women.

According to Canada, most porn isn't porn, if I'm reading that right.

It's actually a case of the study in question REALLY misunderstanding the ruling of R v Butler (1992). The laws affected by the Butler decision relate to criminal laws on all obscene materials rather than specifically "pornography" (semantics, really... but in Canadian law we love us some semantics).

In Butler the Court redefined "obscene materials" in the case of pornography from being all sexually explicit materials to narrow it to only those which fall into one of two categories:

• Explicit sex with violence
• Explicit sex without violence, but which subjects participants to treatment that is degrading or dehumanizing (in some cases - i.e. non-consensual)

Essentially the Court expanded the legality of pornography by stating that, as long as it cannot be shown to be degrading to women, it is not a violation of laws related to obscene materials.

[Chessmistress]

As stated in the OP, the main worries aren't about what happens within the sexrape industry, but what happens to men when the final product reach them, and how those men behave towards women.
That's why "regulate the sexrape industry" cannot be really effective to fight such outcome.

If porn drove all men to rape, why isn't there a rape apocalypse all over the world? I've watched porn and I haven't felt like raping the first woman that gets close to me.

Never said that porn drove all men to rape: I think that porn tend to make men watching it behaving worse towards women, treating us more as objects than human beings.
The effects is probably close to zero on some men, barely relevant on some other men, relevant but far away from droving them to rape on some other men, even more relevant but still not enough to drove them to commit rape on some other men, and, finally, droving some men to commit rape. Probably those who are droven by porn to commit rape were already sexist and misogynists, but still less than before becoming porn consumers. And so on.

[Great Minarchistan]

How would regulated porn be? "Condom is mandatory"?

Taxes, working conditions, minimum wages, working time restrictions, benefits, etc.

I don't think they'd like those. In fact, out of all govt. regulated jobs prostitutes and porn actresses could have (even a frikkin McDonalds job), they voluntarily took the sex path that isn't regulated.

[New haven america]

If porn drove all men to rape, why isn't there a rape apocalypse all over the world? I've watched porn and I haven't felt like raping the first woman that gets close to me.

Never said that porn drove all men to rape: I think that porn tend to make men watching it behaving worse towards women, treating us more as objects than human beings.
The effects is probably close to zero on same men, barely relevant on some other men, relevant but far away from droving them to rape on some other men, even more relevant but still not enough to drove them to commit rape on some other men, and, finally, droving some men to commit rape. Probably those who are droven by porn to commit rape were already sexist and misogynists, but still less than before becoming porn consumers. And so on.

What about women who watch porn? Do they become self-hating rapists?

[Great Minarchistan]

Never said that porn drove all men to rape: I think that porn tend to make men watching it behaving worse towards women, treating us more as objects than human beings.
The effects is probably close to zero on same men, barely relevant on some other men, relevant but far away from droving them to rape on some other men, even more relevant but still not enough to drove them to commit rape on some other men, and, finally, droving some men to commit rape. Probably those who are droven by porn to commit rape were already sexist and misogynists, but still less than before becoming porn consumers. And so on.

What about women who watch porn? Do they become self-hating rapists?

Women watching femdom porn is a signal of the success of the radfem revolution

checkmate

[Bressen]

If porn drove all men to rape, why isn't there a rape apocalypse all over the world? I've watched porn and I haven't felt like raping the first woman that gets close to me.

Never said that porn drove all men to rape: I think that porn tend to make men watching it behaving worse towards women, treating us more as objects than human beings.
The effects is probably close to zero on some men, barely relevant on some other men, relevant but far away from droving them to rape on some other men, even more relevant but still not enough to drove them to commit rape on some other men, and, finally, droving some men to commit rape. Probably those who are droven by porn to commit rape were already sexist and misogynists, but still less than before becoming porn consumers. And so on.

can you at least try and support your claims beyond your own mental faculties

[Great Minarchistan]

Never said that porn drove all men to rape: I think that porn tend to make men watching it behaving worse towards women, treating us more as objects than human beings.
The effects is probably close to zero on some men, barely relevant on some other men, relevant but far away from droving them to rape on some other men, even more relevant but still not enough to drove them to commit rape on some other men, and, finally, droving some men to commit rape. Probably those who are droven by porn to commit rape were already sexist and misogynists, but still less than before becoming porn consumers. And so on.

can you at least try and support your claims beyond your own mental faculties

if she does that she'll abandon radfem because it has no valid arguments, o stupid

[New haven america]

What about women who watch porn? Do they become self-hating rapists?

Women watching femdom porn is a signal of the success of the radfem revolution

checkmate

IIRC, radfems think that dominant women are hurting themselves because they're living out a "Male power fantasy."

[Galloism]

Never said that porn drove all men to rape: I think that porn tend to make men watching it behaving worse towards women, treating us more as objects than human beings.
The effects is probably close to zero on same men, barely relevant on some other men, relevant but far away from droving them to rape on some other men, even more relevant but still not enough to drove them to commit rape on some other men, and, finally, droving some men to commit rape. Probably those who are droven by porn to commit rape were already sexist and misogynists, but still less than before becoming porn consumers. And so on.

What about women who watch porn? Do they become self-hating rapists?

Everyone's daily reminder that roughly 90% of women watch porn online at least occasionally, and the vast majority do it for themselves (IE, they watch porn alone).

[Bressen]

Women watching femdom porn is a signal of the success of the radfem revolution

checkmate

IIRC, radfems think that dominant women are hurting themselves because they're living out a "Male power fantasy."

why is it that the moment women get empowered they're only empowered because 'men' and this is a bad thing because 'men'

[New haven america]

IIRC, radfems think that dominant women are hurting themselves because they're living out a "Male power fantasy."

why is it that the moment women get empowered they're only empowered because 'men' and this is a bad thing because 'men'

IDK, ask Chess.

I'm gonna go with "Because the struggle never ends!"

[New haven america]

What about women who watch porn? Do they become self-hating rapists?

Everyone's daily reminder that roughly 90% of women watch porn online at least occasionally, and the vast majority do it for themselves (IE, they watch porn alone).

Stop spreading your anti-feminist lies!

[Galloism]

Everyone's daily reminder that roughly 90% of women watch porn online at least occasionally, and the vast majority do it for themselves (IE, they watch porn alone).

Stop spreading your anti-feminist lies!

Facts are terribly inconvenient to most extreme ideologies, as I understand.

[Great Minarchistan]

Stop spreading your anti-feminist lies!

Facts are terribly inconvenient to most extreme ideologies, as I understand.

Taxation is still theft.

/skip

[Gauthier]

Women watching femdom porn is a signal of the success of the radfem revolution

checkmate

IIRC, radfems think that dominant women are hurting themselves because they're living out a "Male power fantasy."

And bear porn still encourages objectification of women because one of the men "simulates traditional female submissive role".

[Hakons]

Pornography is inherently adulterous and relegates women to sex objects. It is obviously a general harm to society. On the other hand, pornography could be considered a freedom of expression. Personally, I don't think having the right to do something means you shoulddo something.