Do you think that punishing pornographers would right?

[Alvecia]

Pornography should be illegal. The producers produced pornography just to satisfy some pervert people's demands of watching perverted things, exploiting them for money. They also used various tactics to attract new customers who don't watch pornography before to watch them, again just for money. The producers must be punished for making pornos

You pay for your porn?

Pfff, amateurs

[Lizu]

Porn should be legal.

[Escocaria]

I think pornography should remain legal because if it's made illegal then it will just go underground and lose all regulations it has. The actors all have a way out and can say no because the industry is legal, do you really want to remove the regulations that keep them safe?

[The Federation of Kendor]

Pornography should be illegal. The producers produced pornography just to satisfy some pervert people's demands of watching perverted things, exploiting them for money. They also used various tactics to attract new customers who don't watch pornography before to watch them, again just for money. The producers must be punished for making pornos

You pay for your porn?

From what I read in a book and on the internet, yes

[Khalisako]

Porn sohuld stay legal, but pornographers who rape people to make their content should be imprisoned on heavier fines than simple rapists, I think.

Decriminalise consumption of illegal pornography too, set up rehab programs for addicts and get them out of the prison system.

Things like that.

[Ifreann]

If people in the porn industry are suffering abuse or being exploited I'd rather strengthen regulations or improve enforcement.

This. Pornography is perfectly fine as long as it's being done with legal consenting adults.

The most I'll grant Chess is this: People, especially young people, can definitely pick up some wrong ideas about how sex and sexual relationships actually work from watching porn. But the answer to this isn't to try to criminalise porn, rather it is to teach kids about the differences in their sex ed classes.

[Imperializt Russia]

You pay for your porn?

From what I read in a book and on the internet, yes

Well hi there, HAL9000.

[Lady Scylla]

This. Pornography is perfectly fine as long as it's being done with legal consenting adults.

The most I'll grant Chess is this: People, especially young people, can definitely pick up some wrong ideas about how sex and sexual relationships actually work from watching porn. But the answer to this isn't to try to criminalise porn, rather it is to teach kids about the differences in their sex ed classes.

I agree.

[Sovaal]

Pornography should be illegal. The producers produced pornography just to satisfy some pervert people's demands of watching perverted things, exploiting them for money. They also used various tactics to attract new customers who don't watch pornography before to watch them, again just for money. The producers must be punished for making pornos

When was the last time anyone actually payed for porn? Anyway, sex sells. Humans, for the most part, like sex. Why? Because it is necessary for the survival of the species. So we engage in it. A lot. Many normal people that you see on the street likely consume porn. Your doctors, bus drivers, the cashier at Wally World, the fry cook at McDonalds (let's just hope they wash their ands). They are hardly people that society would label as "sexual deviants".

[Sovaal]

This. Pornography is perfectly fine as long as it's being done with legal consenting adults.

The most I'll grant Chess is this: People, especially young people, can definitely pick up some wrong ideas about how sex and sexual relationships actually work from watching porn. But the answer to this isn't to try to criminalise porn, rather it is to teach kids about the differences in their sex ed classes.

Unfortunately, seeing as to how the radfems seem to have more in common with social conservatives on such matters, I feel that they would simply argue that Sex Ed would only cause kids to have more sex.

[Valgora]

You pay for your porn?

From what I read in a book and on the internet, yes

What?

How does reading a book and on the internet having anything to do with paying for porn?

Most websites are free.
And there are plenty of free websites.

[Lady Scylla]

From what I read in a book and on the internet, yes

What?

How does reading a book and on the internet having anything to do with paying for porn?

-snip- are both free.
And there is plenty of over free websites.

Erm. I wouldn't mention the sites, mind. This is a PG13 forum.

[Alvecia]

From what I read in a book and on the internet, yes

What?

How does reading a book and on the internet having anything to do with paying for porn?

-nix- are both free.
And there is plenty of over free websites.

Presumably this book on porn was written before the advent of the internet.

[Imperializt Russia]

Pornhub is shit for choice.

[Imperializt Russia]

What?

How does reading a book and on the internet having anything to do with paying for porn?

-snip- are both free.
And there is plenty of over free websites.

Erm. I wouldn't mention the sites, mind. This is a PG13 forum.

Fuck me, really?

[Lady Scylla]

What?

How does reading a book and on the internet having anything to do with paying for porn?

-nix- are both free.
And there is plenty of over free websites.

Presumably this book on porn was written before the advent of the internet.

Back when you could get a pin-up magazine for 20 cigarettes.

[Alvecia]

- is shit for choice.

The category selection is nice, but the videos themselves are all rather generic imo

[Alvecia]

Presumably this book on porn was written before the advent of the internet.

Back when you could get a pin-up magazine for 20 cigarettes.

Raquel Welch. Yum

[Valgora]

- is shit for choice.

The category selection is nice, but the videos themselves are all rather generic imo

I think that the website we are discussing that involves a p at the beginning and ends in hub has the largest number of videos.

[Arcanda]

No way, why would you want to take away my poon?

Porn is just a normal business as movies or music are. It's entertainment. Pornographers shouldn't be punished, unless they exploit kids or, in some ways, animals too I guess.

[Valgora]

What?

How does reading a book and on the internet having anything to do with paying for porn?

-snip- are both free.
And there is plenty of over free websites.

Erm. I wouldn't mention the sites, mind. This is a PG13 forum.

To be honest, is it any different from a person just typing porn into Google?
Chances are pornhub will be one of the first, if not the first, search results.

[Imperializt Russia]

The category selection is nice, but the videos themselves are all rather generic imo

I think that the website we are discussing that involves a p at the beginning and ends in hub has the largest number of videos.

A hundred million choices, and they're all the same or all shit.

[Lady Scylla]

Erm. I wouldn't mention the sites, mind. This is a PG13 forum.

To be honest, is it any different from a person just typing porn into Google?
Chances are pornhub will be one of the first, if not the first, search results.

The issue is that we're not to link it -- but I'm unsure if that's an extension to the naming of the sites as well. Just trying to keep the Mods out and (hopefully) let them sit on their ass and do nothing.

[Oneracon]

This. Pornography is perfectly fine as long as it's being done with legal consenting adults.

The most I'll grant Chess is this: People, especially young people, can definitely pick up some wrong ideas about how sex and sexual relationships actually work from watching porn. But the answer to this isn't to try to criminalise porn, rather it is to teach kids about the differences in their sex ed classes.

Most definitely this, if jurisdictions have actual comprehensive sex education then children can learn early on what constitutes healthy sexual relationships. Especially in the case of gender and sexual minorities, which usually get nothing in even the more progressive jurisdictions, so develop expectations about sex because pornography is the only source they have.

[Arcanda]

This. Pornography is perfectly fine as long as it's being done with legal consenting adults.

The most I'll grant Chess is this: People, especially young people, can definitely pick up some wrong ideas about how sex and sexual relationships actually work from watching porn. But the answer to this isn't to try to criminalise porn, rather it is to teach kids about the differences in their sex ed classes.

First Blood and GTA also gave some unrealistic expectations of various aspects of life to kids. Sex ed is nice, but if I were to raise one I'd rather insist on the fact that it's fiction, that actors are paid to do this & that, and that fiction doesn't actually portray reality. I'd let my kids watch First Blood if they know that falling down a cliff and cutting open your pectoral muscle doesn't work in real life; I'll also let them consume porn as long as they know that hardcore [whatever] isn't truly doable without training nor will it entice many partners. Perception is a rather big thing. At least that method worked on me.