Do you think that punishing pornographers would right?

[New Edom]

Like anything, yes.

I question the authors sanity

The problem with a lot of the studies on porn addiction is that they presume that ANY use of pornography is 'addiction'. They don't really distinguish between someone who say has a sex addiction and cannot stop really socially inappropriate behaviour or compulsive pornography use (like literally hours of it every day) and somone who simply views it or reads it. Furthermore, the assumption is that you're looking at images of real people or watching it. I've talked to anti-porn people who had no idea that there was pornographic manga, sites like literotica or anything like that.

Among feminists, the idea is that pornography teaches people to despise women. Among evanglical Christians, the idea is that pornography teaches you to disrespect the sanctity of marriage. So there's a false causal relationship in both cases--that there would be little adultery if ther was no pornography or little rape if there was no pornography. Both are roughly to me like the witch trials in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

[AiliailiA]

Completely fucking futile. Pornography is media, it can be endlessly copied at essentially zero expense, so a War on Porn would be an even worse failure than a War on Drugs.

[Galloism]

I mean, spending all one's time in front of a computer, or a TV, or a phone screen can cause them to lose the desire to do other things. I know this personally, not from using porn but just from how much I've used my phone recently to hang on here or to chat with friends (more of the latter). Perhaps for Jankau, when he got away from porn-from a computer screen-he was able to focus on the parts of his life he had been neglecting, such as his relationships and his health. Addiction is different for different people, I suppose.

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

Sauce. Actual statistical sauce.

[Thermodolia]

Fuck no.

I don't want to fucking sign up just to watch porn.
And I don't want to give them my fucking ID.

If someone is that desperate then maybe they should seek psychological help... Porn addiction is not good for you.

Wanting to watch porn for free isn't an addiction.

[Thermodolia]

Me not wanting to give my fucking ID to a porn site so I could watch it when I turn 18 (which I already am) makes me desperate?

Have you never lied about your age to get onto a website?

Nope. And that is why they should ask for a photocopy of a persons ID.

That's just fucking dumb

[Thermodolia]

I don't think porn has anything to do with being motivated or not. I work out and still watch porn.

I mean, spending all one's time in front of a computer, or a TV, or a phone screen can cause them to lose the desire to do other things. I know this personally, not from using porn but just from how much I've used my phone recently to hang on here or to chat with friends (more of the latter). Perhaps for Jankau, when he got away from porn-from a computer screen-he was able to focus on the parts of his life he had been neglecting, such as his relationships and his health. Addiction is different for different people, I suppose.

That's true.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean, spending all one's time in front of a computer, or a TV, or a phone screen can cause them to lose the desire to do other things. I know this personally, not from using porn but just from how much I've used my phone recently to hang on here or to chat with friends (more of the latter). Perhaps for Jankau, when he got away from porn-from a computer screen-he was able to focus on the parts of his life he had been neglecting, such as his relationships and his health. Addiction is different for different people, I suppose.

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

*looks down*

I still can get it up tho....

[Thermodolia]

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

*looks down*

I still can get it up tho....

And for some strange reason, even though I've been watching porn since middle school, the type of porn I watch is very bland and not at all violent. Actually very violent porn is a turn off for me.

[New Edom]

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

Sauce. Actual statistical sauce.

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

[Ethel mermania]

i wish i got carded.

I very rarely get carded anymore. When I do, I look at them like "if you're so blind as to need ID, how are you going to read it?"

the proper answer is "god bless you and keep you my child" followed by a very sincere hug for anyone thinking i may be under 21

[Sovaal]

I mean, spending all one's time in front of a computer, or a TV, or a phone screen can cause them to lose the desire to do other things. I know this personally, not from using porn but just from how much I've used my phone recently to hang on here or to chat with friends (more of the latter). Perhaps for Jankau, when he got away from porn-from a computer screen-he was able to focus on the parts of his life he had been neglecting, such as his relationships and his health. Addiction is different for different people, I suppose.

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

And I'm sure that you have credible, peer reviewed sources, yes?

[Valgora]

Sauce. Actual statistical sauce.

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

Is that top views by country based off of a percentage of the population, or is it purely based off of the number of people.
Because Iceland's population is a little over 300,000 and they got 2nd on that list.

[Sovaal]

Sauce. Actual statistical sauce.

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

You're telling me that men aren't constantly horny sex machines whose consent you need? /s

[Valgora]

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

Do you have sources?

Also, I haven't watched more shocking or violent content since I started watching porn.

My favorite is still the same from when I started too.

[Galloism]

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

Is that top views by country based off of a percentage of the population, or is it purely based off of the number of people.
Because Iceland's population is a little over 300,000 and they got 2nd on that list.

My view of iceland is shifting rapidly.

[Sovaal]

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

Do you have sources?

Also, I haven't watched more shocking or violent content since I started watching porn.

My favorite is still the same from when I started too.

Obviously as a sexually deviant, you are blinded by your sin from seeing that you are constantly watching rape fantasy porn. /s

[Sovaal]

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

Is that top views by country based off of a percentage of the population, or is it purely based off of the number of people.
Because Iceland's population is a little over 300,000 and they got 2nd on that list.

If it's going based on percentage, which nation has the highest in numbers?

[Ethel mermania]

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

Is that top views by country based off of a percentage of the population, or is it purely based off of the number of people.
Because Iceland's population is a little over 300,000 and they got 2nd on that list.

hits, it is cold and dark in iceland

[Impireacht]

First off, the women in porn are hardly being "unwillingly exploited", they made a choice and gave their consent, unless we're talking about illegal porn, which is already illegal. Nobody "forced" them to take that opportunity. In addition to this, are men being exploited by porn featuring men? Take gay porn, femdom, etc. as examples (don't give me a "those are made for men" response because this doesn't have anything to do with the target audience). As mentioned before, entering the porn industry = a choice, and denying people choices doesn't bring about equality of any form.

Secondly, what exactly qualifies as porn? Are you going to ban nudity on TV and in movies because the mere sight of a nipple is a threat to society? Perhaps we'd better go bash some classical sculptures in the name of equality, everyone.

Thirdly, believe it or not, the porn industry does make a hell of a lot of money here in America along with the rest of the world... the last thing we need right now is a declining economy and the elimination of an entire industry, especially with current political tensions. If porn generates tax income, there's absolutely no reason to get rid of it - it's not like it's particularly dangerous to one's health or anything.

Fourthly, where the fuck does this idea that seeing naked women turns men into angry serial rapists come from? Porn is a fantasy - watching Dexter doesn't turn people into serial killers, and playing GTA doesn't persuade people to go steal cars, so why the hell would porn, even extreme porn, convince anyone to commit rape, unless they were already mentally unstable?

Fifthly (yeah I know that's not a word), regulating porn and requiring IDs to watch it is pretty much impossible without setting up a Great Firewall of China style system of restrictions. So... NO.

I could go on for hours and hours about why this is stupid, but I have better things to do... so I won't.

[San Lumen]

Pornography should not be illegal. People use it to make money and is a large industry in some places. Should there be some restrictions on who can participate and what they can do? Yes absolutely. One should not be able to do it until they are 18 and be consenting as well.

[Oldenfranck]

Stupid idea. Now this folks is a good example of SJW'ing going too far.

[Galloism]

Pornography should not be illegal. People use it to make money and is a large industry in some places. Should there be some restrictions on who can participate and what they can do? Yes absolutely. One should not be able to do it until they are 18 and be consenting as well.

What? You think women are functional adults that can consent to things that some people may not agree with?

What is this heresy?

[New Edom]

According to Pornhub's own stats:

1. roughly 92 billion videos viewed in 2016 on Pornhub alone
2. Top views: USA, Iceland (#2!--feminist Iceland!), UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand were the top viewing nations
3. Top search terms included: lesbian, MILF, stepmom, stepsister, teen, mom, cartoon, threesome, lesbian scissoring, black, anal, Japanese, squirt, and gangbang.

So I notice as I'm researching this: humiliation, bdsm, rape, etc are NOT among the top search terms.

If you parallel pornography to suggestive or erotic materials, you can, as I've said, look at the trends of depicting sexuality in mainstream film and television and find that rape and nonconsent are increasingly, steadily, depicted as very wrong and only practiced by vile persons, almost never eroticized, whereas consensual sex initiated by women is steadily on the rise.

What is noteworthy is that consent for men and male teens remains about where it was in the 1970s.

You're telling me that men aren't constantly horny sex machines whose consent you need? /s

Hehe. Well I take your point, but there's lots of reasons why men might refuse sex. one is that they are already in a committed relationship; they may also not like or trust the woman (or man if they're gay for instance) even if they think they're hot, etc. The point is in popular media women are not depicted as being required to respect men or boys' reasons for refusing sex.

[Randsbeik]

Who cares? As long as all parties involved consent, it can be as depraved as they damn well please.

If you don't like it, don't partake. The same goes for any other behavior you find "immoral."

[Thermodolia]

People that watch porn also become desensitized and watch more and more shocking/violent content to satisfy themselves; increasing their chances of having erectile dysfunction, becoming sex criminals, and have dysfunctional relationships in real life.

Do you have sources?

Also, I haven't watched more shocking or violent content since I started watching porn.

My favorite is still the same from when I started too.

Same here. Honestly my type of porn could be considered bland by some