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Postby New haven america » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:20 pm

No.

Who ever thought that the idea of "Basic Education" was a good idea anyway? Not me, that's for sure.
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Postby Evinkay » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:21 pm

"This would be good because it could allow schooling to be competitive and create supply and demand for schooling."

So, why is it good? I see this as a very bad thing as, although I distrust government, businesses are far more prone to serving their own needs in the educational area rather then the public ones. Some Private Schools don't even reveal their textbooks, especially religious ones.

The status quo is fine.

What needs to be changed is the education system we use.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:21 pm

New haven america wrote:No.

Who ever thought that the idea of "Basic Education" was a good idea anyway? Not me, that's for sure.

Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

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Postby Kubra » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:23 pm

New haven america wrote:No.

Who ever thought that the idea of "Basic Education" was a good idea anyway? Not me, that's for sure.
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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
New haven america wrote:No.

Who ever thought that the idea of "Basic Education" was a good idea anyway? Not me, that's for sure.

Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:25 pm

Bressen wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.
Sounds about right
I mean, it'd be nice to extort the kids, but they make less.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:26 pm

Bressen wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.

School is only compulsory until 16-17 in most of US and modern world. They already pay taxes for schools and have the option of sending their kids to a private school or fucking their kids over and home schooling them.
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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:26 pm

Kubra wrote:
Bressen wrote:And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.
Sounds about right
I mean, it'd be nice to extort the kids, but they make less.

I don't know, I've seen some kids with crazy allowances.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
New haven america wrote:No.

Who ever thought that the idea of "Basic Education" was a good idea anyway? Not me, that's for sure.

Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

Nonsense, "Equal access to education."

Stop feeding me your Un-American liberal ideas, they won't work on me.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:27 pm

Bressen wrote:
Kubra wrote: Sounds about right
I mean, it'd be nice to extort the kids, but they make less.

I don't know, I've seen some kids with crazy allowances.
And if I could have it, that lot would be 1st extorted.
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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bressen wrote:And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.

School is only compulsory until 16-17 in most of US and modern world. They already pay taxes for schools and have the option of sending their kids to a private school or fucking their kids over and home schooling them.

Oh, so the fact that the threat of extortion only persists up until the child is 16-17 makes it okay to threaten extortion in the first place.
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Postby Evinkay » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:27 pm

Bressen wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.


Why shouldn't we? They aren't using what is given to them (mostly free education), got to pay for that somehow.
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Postby Khalisako » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:27 pm

no. certain peoples preffer not nknowing educations. so they should have the right to stay out of school. if they want.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:28 pm

New haven america wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

Nonsense, "Equal access to education."

Stop feeding me your Un-American liberal ideas, they won't work on me.

So education should be about who can afford it?

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:28 pm

Bressen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:School is only compulsory until 16-17 in most of US and modern world. They already pay taxes for schools and have the option of sending their kids to a private school or fucking their kids over and home schooling them.

Oh, so the fact that the threat of extortion only persists up until the child is 16-17 makes it okay to threaten extortion in the first place.

Taxes aren't extortion
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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:28 pm

Evinkay wrote:
Bressen wrote:And we should definitely force children to use this education under the threat of extorting money from their parents if they don't.


Why shouldn't we? They aren't using what is given to them (mostly free education), got to pay for that somehow.

''I'm taking your money for the good of your child.''

Jesus, just let people do what they want. Hiss, leave me alone, lads.
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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:29 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bressen wrote:Oh, so the fact that the threat of extortion only persists up until the child is 16-17 makes it okay to threaten extortion in the first place.

Taxes aren't extortion

So you won't mind if I take X% of your monthly income under the threat of throwing you in a cage if you don't. Cough up the dough, cowboy.
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"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
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"My whole religion is this: do every duty, and expect no reward for it, either here or hereafter."
- Bertrand Russell

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."
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"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities."
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Postby Evinkay » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why shouldnt it be compulsory? Shouldnt all children have equal access to education and get the same education?

Nonsense, "Equal access to education."

Stop feeding me your Un-American liberal ideas, they won't work on me.


Why is everything that benefits the daily person over the businessman always "Un-American" I have the feeling revolutionaries (the founding fathers) would dislike that sentiment.
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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:30 pm

Settlement 0011 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Taxes aren't extortion

Taxation is theft.

It's technically extortion, but you're right in spirit.
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"My whole religion is this: do every duty, and expect no reward for it, either here or hereafter."
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:31 pm

Settlement 0011 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Taxes aren't extortion

Taxation is theft.

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Postby Sanctissima » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:31 pm

Yes, it should.

Having a populace that's at least somewhat educated is a good thing, especially if you want to maintain a democracy. If people don't want to pursue higher education, that's fine, but until they turn 18 the government has a right to force them to come to school.

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Postby Bressen » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:31 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Settlement 0011 wrote:Taxation is theft.

Have fun with no police or roads

''muh roads''
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"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilised community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."
- J.S Mill

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
- Voltaire

"My whole religion is this: do every duty, and expect no reward for it, either here or hereafter."
- Bertrand Russell

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."
- Mark Twain

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities."
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