Chechnya gays, come to America !!

[The Sauganash Union]

Do you believe there should be a nation made up of only LGBTQ members ?

You're going to have trouble sustaining a population after the first generation.

[Valgora]

There should not be a nation made up of 100% LGBTQ because they can't really reproduce.
And if someone would be born in said LGBTQ nation, there isn't a 100% chance that the child will be LGBTQ.

I support LGBTQ rights, except for the idea of having shittons of genders and sexualities.

[Southeast Prussia]

How are you going to get another population in this country?

Be like Fallout Super Mutants and abduct people to make them one of your own?

[The Sauganash Union]

How are you going to get another population in this country?

Be like Fallout Super Mutants and abduct people to make them one of your own?

Umm..How about they protest and hold the world for ransom ? Ya know, sort of " You don't like us or need us. Fine. We will live here and you live there" ? Oh, and they can have babies. The lesbians would be surrogate parents for the gay men. And yes, they wouldn't need to have sex. All it takes is a turkey baster.

what the fuck

[Valgora]

How are you going to get another population in this country?

Be like Fallout Super Mutants and abduct people to make them one of your own?

Umm..How about they protest and hold the world for ransom ? Ya know, sort of " You don't like us or need us. Fine. We will live here and you live there" ? Oh, and they can have babies. The lesbians would be surrogate parents for the gay men. And yes, they wouldn't need to have sex. All it takes is a turkey baster.

About the sex thing, you're not entirely wrong.
I guess.

[Angleter]

How are you going to get another population in this country?

Be like Fallout Super Mutants and abduct people to make them one of your own?

Umm..How about they protest and hold the world for ransom ? Ya know, sort of " You don't like us or need us. Fine. We will live here and you live there" ? Oh, and they can have babies. The lesbians would be surrogate parents for the gay men. And yes, they wouldn't need to have sex. All it takes is a turkey baster.

But the kids wouldn't be all gay.

Relevant.

[Southeast Prussia]

Umm..How about they protest and hold the world for ransom ? Ya know, sort of " You don't like us or need us. Fine. We will live here and you live there" ? Oh, and they can have babies. The lesbians would be surrogate parents for the gay men. And yes, they wouldn't need to have sex. All it takes is a turkey baster.

But the kids wouldn't be all gay.

Relevant.

And with this, it would not be a nation 100% full with gays.

[Southeast Prussia]

But the kids wouldn't be all gay.

Relevant.

No problem. They make a law allowing straight people to live in there nation. Besides, they kids won't be fed the same bigoted b.s normal straights are.

"Do you believe there should be a nation made up of only LGBTQ members ?"

Was your question. This nation allowing straights would not be the nation you questioned about.

And wow, an LGBT supporter that agrees that gays aren't born gay!

[The Sauganash Union]

But the kids wouldn't be all gay.

Relevant.

No problem. They make a law allowing straight people to live in there nation. Besides, they kids won't be fed the same bigoted b.s normal straights are.

Straight people would become a majority within a generation.

[Neutraligon]

No problem. They make a law allowing straight people to live in there nation. Besides, they kids won't be fed the same bigoted b.s normal straights are.

"Do you believe there should be a nation made up of only LGBTQ members ?"

Was your question. This nation allowing straights would not be the nation you questioned about.

And wow, an LGBT supporter that agrees that gays aren't born gay!

Maybe I missed it but where did anyone say that people are not born gay?

[Southeast Prussia]

"Do you believe there should be a nation made up of only LGBTQ members ?"

Was your question. This nation allowing straights would not be the nation you questioned about.

And wow, an LGBT supporter that agrees that gays aren't born gay!

Maybe I missed it but where did anyone say that people are not born gay?

It was implied from his statement. Implication is quite common within NSG, and I thought in this case I would engage in it.

[Neutraligon]

Maybe I missed it but where did anyone say that people are not born gay?

It was implied from his statement. Implication is quite common within NSG, and I thought in this case I would engage in it.

I am still entirely missing the implication.

[Napkiraly]

How are you going to get another population in this country?

Be like Fallout Super Mutants and abduct people to make them one of your own?

Umm..How about they protest and hold the world for ransom ? Ya know, sort of " You don't like us or need us. Fine. We will live here and you live there" ? Oh, and they can have babies. The lesbians would be surrogate parents for the gay men. And yes, they wouldn't need to have sex. All it takes is a turkey baster.

It's pretty safe to say that we should not longer take you seriously.

[Southeast Prussia]

It was implied from his statement. Implication is quite common within NSG, and I thought in this case I would engage in it.

I am still entirely missing the implication.

In reply to "But the kids would not be all gay," he stated "no problem."

Naturally, I implied this as stating what I had stated.

[Valgora]

I am still entirely missing the implication.

In reply to "But the kids would not be all gay," he stated "no problem."

Naturally, I implied this as stating what I had stated.

He said it wouldn't be a problem because the LGBTQ nation would just have to make a law allowing strait people.

[San Marlindo]

Yes it makes perfect sense and is so simple for these people to apply for passports, pack their bags, and relocate to a place they've never seen 8,000 miles away across an ocean.

Particularly when no formal invitation has been extended by the State Department, just some random and ultimately irrelevant person on an Australian-owned website who thinks it's cool.

[Saiwania]

The US isn't the most progressive country out there so it is perhaps a bad choice for gay people. There is a far right which ranges from hatred of homosexuals to ones like myself who tolerate them but don't like what they stand for and a far left in the US that loves LGBT to death and is obsessed about giving these kinds of people more influence.

Europe or even Canada would be a better alternative.

[Sarigen]

Do you believe there should be a nation made up of only LGBTQ members ?

You're going to have trouble sustaining a population after the first generation.

There are multiple problems with this sentence. If you are interested in learning something new, please read! It took some time to write, and it makes me happy when people learn things.

I'll begin very simply:

L esbian - women - women
G ay - men - men
B isexual men - men women - women - men - women = Children?!
T rans - Not a sexuality, but a gender identity. Many be men -men women - women - men - women = Children?!
Q ueer - "other" catergory, women - women men - men women - men = Children?!

Furthermore, with in vitro fertilization and adoption, LGBT couples frequently have families now. What does this men? Well lets revisit our L and Gs.

Gay - Men - Men + various scientific methods = Children!
Lesbian - women - women + various scientific methods = children!

It is a little more difficult for our Gays and Lesbians, but hey - raising children is described as difficult by almost all parents! But back on topic...

So no, they wouldn't die off in a single generation. Disappointed? Fear not! Serious problems still face our hypothetical and newly born country. We'll get to that in just a bit. For now, don't feel too attacked, for in the problems I reveal, I will also reveal that the question you responded to, is a bit of a trick question!

Why? Because, a LGBT nation would quickly become a conventional nation, since gay couples will give birth to straight children - just as the reverse happens. Any LGBT nation, would not be a LGBT nation for long. There might be more LGBT persons concentrated in this nation than in any existing nation, which would certainly be interesting to consider, but just like every existing nation, Gaytopia will soon become LGBTQStraightopia. That sentence was a bit cringy, but you get the point, no?

So what solutions are we left with, if Gaytopia is a bit of a pipe dream?

Well, the only permanent solutions are,

1. Acceptance of LGBT persons.
2. Continuous termination of LGBT persons (this would have to be a permanent program, since LGBT persons will continuously be born).

Few societies can stomach the continuous killing of any group of people, so two is hardly a permanent solution. Yep, Chechnya. Not only are your actions horrendously evil, but they're futile as well. So is there an inbetween mass murder, and mass acceptance? Well yes. This brings up option 3:

3. Make it socially unacceptable and costly to publicly identify as LGBT.

Again, this is a temporary solution, since in developed nations with human rights, LGBT persons will eventually mobilize and argue for their rights. With the invention of modern technology (the internet), it is easier than ever for the LGBT community to build connections with each other, and unfortunately, there's no real coming back from that. Once the demand for recognition is made, the society will then go to option 1 (example: USA), or 2 (example: Chechnya*). Option 2 is clearly a horrible and costly option, that should be discouraged across the modern world. It is murderous and barbaric. However, if history is to be believed, it is also very temporary.

A country built of entirely LGBT people, would simply be a wildly improbably option 4, and one that would also be a very temporary solutions.

Hopefully, the situation in Chechnya comes to an end sooner than later, though. It is certainly within a countries rights to discourage LGBT persons, but as a member of the international community, there should be the strictest of consequences for what Chechnya is doing.

*The current situation in Chechnya, comes after LGBT groups applied to have a pride parade.

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The US isn't the most progressive country out there so it is perhaps a bad choice for gay people. There is a far right which ranges from hatred of homosexuals to ones like myself who tolerate them but don't like what they stand for and a far left in the US that loves LGBT to death and is obsessed about giving these kinds of people more influence.

Europe or even Canada would be a better alternative.

I live in Canada, and can confirm that most people here are supportive of LGBT persons. There are pockets of prejudice, but this unfortunately exists for any minority group in any country. Most people here are still grappling with what a transgender person is - having moved on from grappling with what a gay person is.

Still, if faced with imprisonment/certain death, the US still offers the possibility for a better life, so if they're offered relocation to the USA by say, the UN, it would be stupid to decline. But it would be easier to relocate as a refugee to safer and neighbouring European countries. Poor guys, dealing with even more refugees... But the good news is, this influx will probably be in the thousands, rather than millions, so it probably won't even register as an item of interest to most people.

[New Clearland]

An LGBT homeland will only be sustainable for about one generation... After that their population crisis would be far worse than Japan or South Korea.

[Faarali]

Wow. The inbred Chechen's did something good.

[Sarigen]

Wow. The inbred Chechen's did something good.

Genocide is almost universally considered to be not good. Evil, inhumane, and barbaric are better descriptors, if you're having trouble finding any.

[Faarali]

Chechens are fucking stupid, despite this. They are on par with Kosovar Albanians.

[Valgora]

Wow. The inbred Chechen's did something good.

Hopefully, God will have mercy on his Chechen children. Of course, it is hard to make any claims about God's character. He may enjoy them dying agony and sit aside.

Or maybe God doesn't actually interfere with our lives.

[Faarali]

Hopefully, God will have mercy on his Chechen children. Of course, it is hard to make any claims about God's character. He may enjoy them dying agony and sit aside.

Or maybe God doesn't actually interfere with our lives.

Neither does State-Sponsered Atheism....

[Sarigen]

An LGBT homeland will only be sustainable for about one generation... After that their population crisis would be far worse than Japan or South Korea.

I responded to a nearly identical statement on the first page. If you're interested in learning, here is quite a lot to consider:

There are multiple problems with this sentence.

An LGBT homeland will only be sustainable for about one generation... After that their population crisis would be far worse than Japan or South Korea.

If you are interested in learning something new, please read! It took some time to write, and it makes me happy when people learn things.

I'll begin very simply:

L esbian - women - women
G ay - men - men
B isexual men - men women - women - men - women = Children?!
T rans - Not a sexuality, but a gender identity. Many be men -men women - women - men - women = Children?!
Q ueer - "other" catergory, women - women men - men women - men = Children?!

Furthermore, with in vitro fertilization and adoption, LGBT couples frequently have families now. What does this men? Well lets revisit our L and Gs.

Gay - Men - Men + various scientific methods = Children!
Lesbian - women - women + various scientific methods = children!

It is a little more difficult for our Gays and Lesbians, but hey - raising children is described as difficult by almost all parents! But back on topic...

So no, they wouldn't die off in a single generation. Disappointed? Fear not! Serious problems still face our hypothetical and newly born country. We'll get to that in just a bit. For now, don't feel too attacked, for in the problems I reveal, I will also reveal that the question you responded to, is a bit of a trick question!

Why? Because, a LGBT nation would quickly become a conventional nation, since gay couples will give birth to straight children - just as the reverse happens. Any LGBT nation, would not be a LGBT nation for long. There might be more LGBT persons concentrated in this nation than in any existing nation, which would certainly be interesting to consider, but just like every existing nation, Gaytopia will soon become LGBTQStraightopia. That sentence was a bit cringy, but you get the point, no?

So what solutions are we left with, if Gaytopia is a bit of a pipe dream?

Well, the only permanent solutions are,

1. Acceptance of LGBT persons.
2. Continuous termination of LGBT persons (this would have to be a permanent program, since LGBT persons will continuously be born).

Few societies can stomach the continuous killing of any group of people, so two is hardly a permanent solution. Yep, Chechnya. Not only are your actions horrendously evil, but they're futile as well. So is there an inbetween mass murder, and mass acceptance? Well yes. This brings up option 3:

3. Make it socially unacceptable and costly to publicly identify as LGBT.

Again, this is a temporary solution, since in developed nations with human rights, LGBT persons will eventually mobilize and argue for their rights. With the invention of modern technology (the internet), it is easier than ever for the LGBT community to build connections with each other, and unfortunately, there's no real coming back from that. Once the demand for recognition is made, the society will then go to option 1 (example: USA), or 2 (example: Chechnya*). Option 2 is clearly a horrible and costly option, that should be discouraged across the modern world. It is murderous and barbaric. However, if history is to be believed, it is also very temporary.

A country built of entirely LGBT people, would simply be a wildly improbably option 4, and one that would also be a very temporary solutions.

Hopefully, the situation in Chechnya comes to an end sooner than later, though. It is certainly within a countries rights to discourage LGBT persons, but as a member of the international community, there should be the strictest of consequences for what Chechnya is doing.

*The current situation in Chechnya, comes after LGBT groups applied to have a pride parade.